Bentley Purchase

Homer_Bart · December 20th, 2007, 03:58 AM

Disclaimer first. I am NOT in any way buy a Bentley as of currently. The buyer is my uncle, a china chinese, who (probably) has no knowledge/interest in cars, but he's interested in getting one down here, in Singapore. For verification purposes for those who'd like to flame or accuse me of being a liar, here's a googled link of a news report about his company. http://www.germany.info/relaunch/inf.../economy1.html

Thank you. images/smilies/smile.gif

Anyway, here's the story. My uncle(father's cousin), is investing in singapore and wants a luxury mobile, so he's thinking about a Bentley. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

He and my father went to look at a 5 month old 2nd hand Bentley yesterday, of which I wasn't allowed to go images/smilies/mad.gif

2000km.
Registered on July 2007
20" optional rims
SGD$628,000
(Pictures taken off dealer's website)

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My question is, how reliable are Bentleys? Should we consider a 2nd hand 2003 Maybach 62?( has been floating around in the market unsold for half a year) Or Any other cars of this sort?

BTW, this uncle of mine has 2 Bentleys and a Rolls Royce! In hong kong and beijing.
He has a Merc S350 at home in China.

EDIT: the car would not be driven much, since he only visits once every month for 2 or 3 days.

bartboy9891 · December 20th, 2007, 04:01 AM

None of those ultra luxury cars are going to be really reliable. Just get whichever one he likes, he'll probably be able to afford the maintenance costs.

Homer_Bart · December 20th, 2007, 04:12 AM

Update! Just got a call, I'm now asked to accompany to go to see more Bentleys!!!

Hidden_Hunter · December 20th, 2007, 04:36 AM

Asking on this forum won't get you any real responses of any use, unless you want a repeat of clarkson and co's coments.

LeMans GTR · December 20th, 2007, 05:45 AM

The only advice I can give is to ask Jacobfox, his dad owns or owned a lot of expensive cars, so I think he could answer a few questions.

stevanford1 · December 20th, 2007, 05:54 AM

If he already owns two other bentleys and a rolls royce, he should know how reliable they are.

zeroSignal · December 20th, 2007, 12:34 PM

The Conti GT / Flying Spur is essentially a VW Phaeton, and as such, should be reliable. The W12 engine in it has been used in a number of VAG luxury products.

And I'm a huge fan of the GT / Flying Spur. I know a lot of people don't like them, but I quite like the GT.

chaos386 · December 21st, 2007, 01:58 PM

I haven't been in a Flying Spur, but I've ridden in a Maybach 57 and a Continental GT, and the Maybach was a nicer place to be. No idea about reliability, though.

klutch · December 21st, 2007, 09:04 PM

First: Why are you asking about Bentley reliability on an internet forum dedicated to a car show?

Second: Do you really think a (distant) relative in the market for such a car, having already owned such cars, is going to be interested in the opinion of his hardly-related 14-year-old nephew?

Not trying to be a prick, but you're making it really easy.

anti-net · December 21st, 2007, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hidden_Hunter

Asking on this forum won't get you any real responses of any use, unless you want a repeat of clarkson and co's coments.

I agree - Most of us are not rich enough to afford such luxury cars, or just won't admit it.

watisdis · December 21st, 2007, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer_Bart

...The buyer is my uncle, a china chinese, who...

Is there any other kind?

hajj · December 21st, 2007, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watisdis

Is there any other kind?

Ignorance at its best!! images/smilies/lol.gif

The Chinese are not only living in China. Ever looked outside? images/smilies/tongue.gif

It is a big issue between Singapore and Malaysia, the majority is Chinese and the minority is Malay in Singapore, whereas it is the other way around in Malaysia. The majorities in both countries watch above the minorities in the other country. I think that might be the reason he mentioned that. Big issue, but I guess it didnt make the US headlines. images/smilies/wink.gif

BigDaveDogg · December 22nd, 2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Homer_Bart

Should we consider a 2nd hand 2003 Maybach 62?( has been floating around in the market unsold for half a year) Or Any other cars of this sort?

We? I'm fairly certain he'll make his own decision. It seems you don't even know how knowledgable he is on cars. Oh and thanks for the disclaimer about you not buying the car personally...because we were all going to think a 14 year old was buying a Bentley. images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

watisdis · December 22nd, 2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by hajj

Ignorance at its best!! images/smilies/lol.gif

The Chinese are not only living in China. Ever looked outside? images/smilies/tongue.gif

It is a big issue between Singapore and Malaysia, the majority is Chinese and the minority is Malay in Singapore, whereas it is the other way around in Malaysia. The majorities in both countries watch above the minorities in the other country. I think that might be the reason he mentioned that. Big issue, but I guess it didnt make the US headlines. images/smilies/wink.gif

It's not a matter of ignorance as much as it is a matter of relevance. Socio-political issues are irrelevant for his post subject (helping his uncle buy a Bentley), therefore have no place in it. "China chinese" is still redundant. "My uncle, who is chinese.." or "My uncle from China..." are proper ways of stating the fact. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Elmo187 · December 22nd, 2007, 03:09 AM

hold on.....

wouldn't your father's cousin be your second cousin and not an uncle? for him to be an uncle, he would had to of been a sibling of your father's. a cousin isn't a sibling, its a relative.

Ottobon · December 22nd, 2007, 07:16 AM

why are great business men so intrinsically boring? I mean the Bentley is a nice car and all but theirs 10s of other cars that pop to mind as something i would spend my cashflow on. Good to hear hes actually test driving the cars though

Reliability should be okay since its basically a pheaton, older bentleys i'm not so sure.

BerserkerCatSplat · December 22nd, 2007, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ottobon

why are great business men so intrinsically boring? I mean the Bentley is a nice car and all but theirs 10s of other cars that pop to mind as something i would spend my cashflow on.

Well, hookers and blow tend to depreciate faster than cars.

Homer_Bart · December 22nd, 2007, 07:48 AM

@ klutch: I only come to finalgear forums, nowhere else, that's why I post here. He may be distant, but our families are close, like best friends.

@hajj: LOL, got a point. chinese/asians are now everywhere in the world. so I thought I gotta make a point to mention that =/

@elmo187: over in singapore, you call all males uncle when you greet people (i.e. neighbor/father's friend etc), auntie for the females. So it's totally appropriate to call him uncle (:

The only thing he cares about is the car's prestige and price. He wants these two factors at the max.
Pictures of the trip at the Random Car Sightings thread.
Sorry, I'm a noob at forums. Guess I'll not post next time, looking at the negative comments...

Ottobon · December 22nd, 2007, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerserkerCatSplat

Well, hookers and blow tend to depreciate faster than cars.

Err, okay i'll admit i the 10s of cars i was thinking about were all used, so maybe i shutup.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer_Bart

The only thing he cares about is the car's prestige and price. He wants these two factors at the max.
Guess I'll not post next time, looking at the negative comments...

Sorry, and if its okay to ask, do you mean prestige for the price?

stevanford1 · December 22nd, 2007, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer_Bart

@ klutch: I only come to finalgear forums, nowhere else, that's why I post here. He may be distant, but our families are close, like best friends.

December 20th, 2007, 03:58 AM	#1
Homer_Bart Joined: Sep 10th, 2006 Last Online: 08:11 AM Location: Singapore Age: 15 Posts: 605 Car: 2-wheel Haro F1 Rep Power: 18	Bentley Purchase Disclaimer first. I am NOT in any way buy a Bentley as of currently. The buyer is my uncle, a china chinese, who (probably) has no knowledge/interest in cars, but he's interested in getting one down here, in Singapore. For verification purposes for those who'd like to flame or accuse me of being a liar, here's a googled link of a news report about his company. http://www.germany.info/relaunch/inf.../economy1.html Thank you. Anyway, here's the story. My uncle(father's cousin), is investing in singapore and wants a luxury mobile, so he's thinking about a Bentley. He and my father went to look at a 5 month old 2nd hand Bentley yesterday, of which I wasn't allowed to go 2000km. Registered on July 2007 20" optional rims SGD$628,000 (Pictures taken off dealer's website) My question is, how reliable are Bentleys? Should we consider a 2nd hand 2003 Maybach 62?( has been floating around in the market unsold for half a year) Or Any other cars of this sort? BTW, this uncle of mine has 2 Bentleys and a Rolls Royce! In hong kong and beijing. He has a Merc S350 at home in China. EDIT: the car would not be driven much, since he only visits once every month for 2 or 3 days. Last edited by Homer_Bart; December 20th, 2007 at 04:07 AM..

December 20th, 2007, 04:01 AM	#2
bartboy9891 I'm not Moe Joined: Dec 1st, 2004 Last Online: 06:57 AM Location: University of Michigan Age: 19 Posts: 7,616 Car: 1996 Grand Am SE sedan, and dad's 2006 S60 2.5T Rep Power: 41	None of those ultra luxury cars are going to be really reliable. Just get whichever one he likes, he'll probably be able to afford the maintenance costs. __________________

December 20th, 2007, 04:36 AM	#4
Hidden_Hunter D: Joined: Oct 7th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 4,335 Car: '08 Honda Accord Euro Rep Power: 46	Asking on this forum won't get you any real responses of any use, unless you want a repeat of clarkson and co's coments. __________________ My car is dark grey not black!

December 20th, 2007, 05:45 AM	#5
LeMans GTR Previously Known As CSL Joined: Dec 20th, 2006 Last Online: 07:12 AM Location: Australia Posts: 1,836 Car: Aston Martin DB9 (In GT4!) Rep Power: 17	The only advice I can give is to ask Jacobfox, his dad owns or owned a lot of expensive cars, so I think he could answer a few questions. __________________

December 20th, 2007, 05:54 AM	#6
stevanford1 Joined: Jan 11th, 2007 Last Online: 08:00 AM Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 796 Rep Power: 15	If he already owns two other bentleys and a rolls royce, he should know how reliable they are. __________________ THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY "Deprogramming the masses since 1547" "Jean Todt's system will never succeed, not even with Michael Schumacher" - Niki Lauda, 1995

December 20th, 2007, 04:12 AM	#3
Homer_Bart Joined: Sep 10th, 2006 Last Online: 08:11 AM Location: Singapore Age: 15 Posts: 605 Car: 2-wheel Haro F1 Rep Power: 18	Update! Just got a call, I'm now asked to accompany to go to see more Bentleys!!!

December 20th, 2007, 12:34 PM	#7
zeroSignal Nerdcore Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Cybertron Age: 24 Posts: 456 Car: 2004 Seat Leon 1.9 TDI 110 Rep Power: 23	The Conti GT / Flying Spur is essentially a VW Phaeton, and as such, should be reliable. The W12 engine in it has been used in a number of VAG luxury products. And I'm a huge fan of the GT / Flying Spur. I know a lot of people don't like them, but I quite like the GT. __________________ [Driven To Destruction]\|[Digital Phantasy] #gear - Where the cool kids are! It's all nonsense. Drink beer. Drive a metal car. Don't be a ponce.

December 21st, 2007, 01:58 PM	#8
chaos386 .sa = bad driver! Joined: Nov 8th, 2004 Last Online: November 30th, 2008 Location: Paris, France Age: 22 Posts: 3,443 LFS Status: Rep Power: 58	I haven't been in a Flying Spur, but I've ridden in a Maybach 57 and a Continental GT, and the Maybach was a nicer place to be. No idea about reliability, though. __________________ "My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to $3.00 a can. That's almost $21.00 in dog money." -Joe Weinstein

December 21st, 2007, 09:04 PM	#9
klutch Courteous urinator Joined: Jan 6th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,696 Car: Whatever's in the press fleet. Rep Power: 27	First: Why are you asking about Bentley reliability on an internet forum dedicated to a car show? Second: Do you really think a (distant) relative in the market for such a car, having already owned such cars, is going to be interested in the opinion of his hardly-related 14-year-old nephew? Not trying to be a prick, but you're making it really easy. __________________

December 22nd, 2007, 03:09 AM	#15
Elmo187 Banned Joined: Oct 6th, 2006 Last Online: April 11th, 2008 Location: Brandon, FL, USA Age: 26 Posts: 1,055 Car: Cobalt SS/SC-SN95 5.0 Stang-Toyota Corolla AE86 Rep Power: 0	hold on..... wouldn't your father's cousin be your second cousin and not an uncle? for him to be an uncle, he would had to of been a sibling of your father's. a cousin isn't a sibling, its a relative.

December 22nd, 2007, 07:16 AM	#16
Ottobon Joined: Nov 27th, 2005 Last Online: 06:40 AM Posts: 3,094 Car: Too many Rep Power: 30	why are great business men so intrinsically boring? I mean the Bentley is a nice car and all but theirs 10s of other cars that pop to mind as something i would spend my cashflow on. Good to hear hes actually test driving the cars though Reliability should be okay since its basically a pheaton, older bentleys i'm not so sure.

December 22nd, 2007, 07:48 AM	#18
Homer_Bart Joined: Sep 10th, 2006 Last Online: 08:11 AM Location: Singapore Age: 15 Posts: 605 Car: 2-wheel Haro F1 Rep Power: 18	@ klutch: I only come to finalgear forums, nowhere else, that's why I post here. He may be distant, but our families are close, like best friends. @hajj: LOL, got a point. chinese/asians are now everywhere in the world. so I thought I gotta make a point to mention that =/ @elmo187: over in singapore, you call all males uncle when you greet people (i.e. neighbor/father's friend etc), auntie for the females. So it's totally appropriate to call him uncle (: The only thing he cares about is the car's prestige and price. He wants these two factors at the max. Pictures of the trip at the Random Car Sightings thread. Sorry, I'm a noob at forums. Guess I'll not post next time, looking at the negative comments...