Honda? Reliable? Wat? - Page 2

JakeRadden · October 16th, 2009, 6:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobias

My Honda is quite reliable. I hit 8k rpm all the time, just have to check oil weekly.

Well you have to, to get any torque whatsoever images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

Mark355 · October 16th, 2009, 7:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeRadden

Well you have to, to get any torque whatsoever images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

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BerserkerCatSplat · October 16th, 2009, 6:35 PM

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thevictor390 · October 16th, 2009, 6:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobias

My Honda is quite reliable. I hit 8k rpm all the time, just have to check oil weekly.

I know the feeling.

InfernalVortex · October 16th, 2009, 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectre

You can ruin the automatics by driving through deep-ish water, as in urban flooding.

How is this? Does water somehow get into it?

maxtortheone · October 16th, 2009, 8:31 PM

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Originally Posted by InfernalVortex

How is this? Does water somehow get into it?

I assume that with all that hydraulics inside, the transmission can get pretty hot.

Spectre · October 17th, 2009, 2:38 AM

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Originally Posted by InfernalVortex

How is this? Does water somehow get into it?

All automatic transmissions (at least, all the common ones in the US market) have a vent of some kind to allow gases and vapors to escape from the transmission's casing and prevent an explosion. If you drive through water deep enough to splash in through the vent (which is often located in some strange or stupid places) or submerge it entirely, water can enter the transmission and things get worse from there. Very few vehicles have any sort of check valve or a remote relocation hose on their automatic's vent to prevent this; all the ones I know of are trucks.

Sevs753 · October 17th, 2009, 3:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Spectre

All automatic transmissions (at least, all the common ones in the US market) have a vent of some kind to allow gases and vapors to escape from the transmission's casing and prevent an explosion. If you drive through water deep enough to splash in through the vent (which is often located in some strange or stupid places) or submerge it entirely, water can enter the transmission and things get worse from there. Very few vehicles have any sort of check valve or a remote relocation hose on their automatic's vent to prevent this; all the ones I know of are trucks.

why wouldn't manual transmissions have that vent too?

Spectre · October 17th, 2009, 3:13 AM

Some but not all manual transmissions do have that vent, though it isn't nearly as necessary as it is for an automatic. A manual doesn't run anywhere near as hot as an automatic does in normal use, and until very recently almost all manuals used thick gear oil for lubrication instead of thin ATF, which is far less prone to vaporization and therefore needs venting less.

Even among those manuals that have such a vent, getting a little water in them isn't nearly the instant disaster that getting it into an automatic can be.

InfernalVortex · October 17th, 2009, 8:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sevs753

why wouldn't manual transmissions have that vent too?

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/8/l_41178a9815d14722746e4b810eb0fb7e.jpg

The black tube is, I believe, a vent.

Spectre · October 17th, 2009, 6:09 PM

All the SR-4/T-5/T-56/etc Borg-Warner/Tremec transmissions have a vent, yes. This would be (in part) because they can use ATF as a lubricant instead of gear oil.

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Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 7:34 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,357 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 191	Some but not all manual transmissions do have that vent, though it isn't nearly as necessary as it is for an automatic. A manual doesn't run anywhere near as hot as an automatic does in normal use, and until very recently almost all manuals used thick gear oil for lubrication instead of thin ATF, which is far less prone to vaporization and therefore needs venting less. Even among those manuals that have such a vent, getting a little water in them isn't nearly the instant disaster that getting it into an automatic can be. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

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Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 7:34 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,357 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 191	All the SR-4/T-5/T-56/etc Borg-Warner/Tremec transmissions have a vent, yes. This would be (in part) because they can use ATF as a lubricant instead of gear oil. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

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