MX-5 turbo

argatoga · June 28th, 2009, 3:03 PM

My Dad is now considering the purchase of an MX-5 in lieu of a XK. He likes the idea, but a 0-60 time of ~8 seconds is a bit low for him. What are the best turbo kits out there? Would a supercharger be a better option?

Would it be better to look for a series one which has already undergone a turbo/exhaust upgrade? And would a suspension kit bring a first gen up to the prowess of a current generation car?

WillDAQ · June 28th, 2009, 3:37 PM

This http://www.cosworthusa.com/store/pc/...&idproduct=363 ?

The_Finn · June 28th, 2009, 4:01 PM

Mazdaspeed MX-5

LeVeL · June 28th, 2009, 4:03 PM

V8 swap FTW! Its been done plenty of times, so you'll be able to find people to ask for help and an LS1 weighs barely more than the stock motor so the handling will be preserved. If you're set on FI then check out miataturbo.net and miata.net

argatoga · June 28th, 2009, 5:24 PM

He dosen't want to do something as involving as an engine swap. I might add that he is looking for something cheaper than a XK. A $6000 kit wouldn't be the best option.

Spectre · June 28th, 2009, 8:32 PM

There's always this, if the engine's been replaced. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1241681581.html

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argatoga · June 28th, 2009, 8:50 PM

Original engine images/smilies/sad.gif

Spectre · June 28th, 2009, 8:58 PM

How unfortunate. images/smilies/sad.gif

Roman · June 28th, 2009, 9:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Finn

Mazdaspeed MX-5

There you go.

starfox07 · June 28th, 2009, 10:01 PM

These guys are probably the best:

http://www.flyinmiata.com/

thedguy · June 28th, 2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argatoga

My Dad is now considering the purchase of an MX-5 in lieu of a XK. He likes the idea, but a 0-60 time of ~8 seconds is a bit low for him. What are the best turbo kits out there? Would a supercharger be a better option?

Would it be better to look for a series one which has already undergone a turbo/exhaust upgrade? And would a suspension kit bring a first gen up to the prowess of a current generation car?

The first gens (NA) aren't really much slower than the newer models around corners.

Flyin miata kits are good, but their ecu's are expensive and the O2 sensors aren't meant to be used that way. Greddy turbo kits for 1.6l cars are dirt cheap. I've been fighting temptation to buy one at $1300 for mine.

I'd say go with the Mazdaspeed MX-5, so long as he doesn't want to do engine mods then. 2 friends of mine have 'em and both wished they had just bought regular 1.8l cars and upgraded them, would have been cheaper in the end.

The only problem with getting one pre-modded is you don't know what the guy may have said "aww fuck it, thats good enough."

Is he planning to use this as just a fun car or as a daily?

argatoga · June 29th, 2009, 7:57 AM

It will be used as just a fun car. Once I told him of the Mazdaspeed he liked it. Now he is looking for either one of those or a used XK8 with a replaced engine. He doesn't have an issue with a bolt on kit, but things like engine swaps are a bit much. If an engine swap wasn't a concern he would get an MGB with a 302.

LeVeL · July 5th, 2009, 6:40 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, I have had the pleasure of dealing with the most hilarious neg-rep I have recieved to date. It says "v8 sux" images/smilies/lol.gif

darkshark0159 · July 5th, 2009, 7:48 PM

What's next? A neg rep for a 7-series enthusiast: "v12 is gay as ur mom"?

argatoga · July 5th, 2009, 7:50 PM

My favorite neg rep is from my MG's thread: "OMFG!!! rubber bumpers".

Nocturnal · July 6th, 2009, 11:04 AM

Tell him to drive a stock MK1 first. I dare say he'll soon forget about 0-60 times and bhp figures. For what it's worth, a BBR, Mazdaspeed or any other low-PSI (GReddy) turbo set-up really doesn't make them that much faster. The best kits out there are the BEGI turbos, and for s/c's look at Jackson Racing (Mp45 for 1.6L and Mp62 for 1.8L). These cars only really 'feel' powerful pushing between 2-250bhp. Any more is simply too much, and any less still feels a bit lame if you've ever driven a powerful car before. If power and speed was something that's particularly important, I'd probably look elsewhere, such as an Integra Type-R.

*waits for the anti-FWD crowd* images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Stumpy · July 6th, 2009, 3:58 PM

Owning a MazdaSpeed Miata and have driven both NAs and NBs I would say the MazdaSpeed version would very well fit your dad's wants.

Mods for the MazdaSpeed are not that expensive. With just a few simple upgrades, you can be putting down 200 hp to the wheels.

I am going to keep mine "stock", because it is plenty fast for me.

..

June 28th, 2009, 3:03 PM	#1
argatoga Can't Start His Wank Joined: Oct 4th, 2005 Last Online: 6:43 AM Location: Washington State, USA Age: 26 Posts: 4,793 Car: '78 MG Midget, '78 Honda CB400t Rep Power: 164	MX-5 turbo My Dad is now considering the purchase of an MX-5 in lieu of a XK. He likes the idea, but a 0-60 time of ~8 seconds is a bit low for him. What are the best turbo kits out there? Would a supercharger be a better option? Would it be better to look for a series one which has already undergone a turbo/exhaust upgrade? And would a suspension kit bring a first gen up to the prowess of a current generation car? __________________ "If you think about it breast implants aren't much different than braces. Their main purpose is to improve one's appearance, at least that's how it was in my case." - KaJun "Anyway, I'm off to eat my dick" - Austere

June 28th, 2009, 4:01 PM	#3
The_Finn Joined: Feb 7th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Worcestersheshershire MA Age: 28 Posts: 3,415 Car: 1988 Mazda 323 GTX / 1997 Saab 900s Rep Power: 57	Mazdaspeed MX-5 __________________ Proud owner of a 1988 mazda 323 GTX: The ~~poor~~ rich mans evo... "My laptop has a webcam; if I wanted to make money while making a mess, I'd be all over the internet. Hell, you'd probably have videos of me bookmarked." ~Klutch~ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” ~Ernest Hemingway~ It's all about having the right priorities. You can sleep in your car but you can't race your house -\|- Basically i go accurately and on special lines

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LeVeL Joined: Jun 16th, 2007 Last Online: 7:51 AM Location: MA Age: 21 Posts: 2,974 Car: CG5/F23A1 Rep Power: 100	V8 swap FTW! Its been done plenty of times, so you'll be able to find people to ask for help and an LS1 weighs barely more than the stock motor so the handling will be preserved. If you're set on FI then check out miataturbo.net and miata.net __________________ ^Don't worry he's a closet ~~homosexual~~ Miata driver. - Twerp128 flickr . . . photography + UMass Motorsport

June 28th, 2009, 5:24 PM	#5
argatoga Can't Start His Wank Joined: Oct 4th, 2005 Last Online: 6:43 AM Location: Washington State, USA Age: 26 Posts: 4,793 Car: '78 MG Midget, '78 Honda CB400t Rep Power: 164	He dosen't want to do something as involving as an engine swap. I might add that he is looking for something cheaper than a XK. A $6000 kit wouldn't be the best option. __________________ "If you think about it breast implants aren't much different than braces. Their main purpose is to improve one's appearance, at least that's how it was in my case." - KaJun "Anyway, I'm off to eat my dick" - Austere Last edited by argatoga; June 28th, 2009 at 5:31 PM.

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Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 10:26 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,359 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 191	There's always this, if the engine's been replaced. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1241681581.html __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

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WillDAQ Joined: Oct 23rd, 2007 Last Online: 10:27 AM Posts: 1,031 Car: Smart Roadster Coupe Rep Power: 43	This http://www.cosworthusa.com/store/pc/...&idproduct=363 ?

June 28th, 2009, 8:50 PM	#7
argatoga Can't Start His Wank Joined: Oct 4th, 2005 Last Online: 6:43 AM Location: Washington State, USA Age: 26 Posts: 4,793 Car: '78 MG Midget, '78 Honda CB400t Rep Power: 164	Original engine __________________ "If you think about it breast implants aren't much different than braces. Their main purpose is to improve one's appearance, at least that's how it was in my case." - KaJun "Anyway, I'm off to eat my dick" - Austere

June 28th, 2009, 8:58 PM	#8
Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 10:26 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,359 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 191	How unfortunate. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

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starfox07 Joined: Oct 7th, 2007 Last Online: 4:27 AM Location: Ennis, Tx, USA Age: 20 Posts: 3,377 Car: 1984 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE Rep Power: 81	These guys are probably the best: http://www.flyinmiata.com/ __________________ -Environmentally Hostile-

June 29th, 2009, 7:57 AM	#12
argatoga Can't Start His Wank Joined: Oct 4th, 2005 Last Online: 6:43 AM Location: Washington State, USA Age: 26 Posts: 4,793 Car: '78 MG Midget, '78 Honda CB400t Rep Power: 164	It will be used as just a fun car. Once I told him of the Mazdaspeed he liked it. Now he is looking for either one of those or a used XK8 with a replaced engine. He doesn't have an issue with a bolt on kit, but things like engine swaps are a bit much. If an engine swap wasn't a concern he would get an MGB with a 302. __________________ "If you think about it breast implants aren't much different than braces. Their main purpose is to improve one's appearance, at least that's how it was in my case." - KaJun "Anyway, I'm off to eat my dick" - Austere

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LeVeL Joined: Jun 16th, 2007 Last Online: 7:51 AM Location: MA Age: 21 Posts: 2,974 Car: CG5/F23A1 Rep Power: 100	Ladies and gentlemen, I have had the pleasure of dealing with the most hilarious neg-rep I have recieved to date. It says "v8 sux" __________________ ^Don't worry he's a closet ~~homosexual~~ Miata driver. - Twerp128 flickr . . . photography + UMass Motorsport Last edited by LeVeL; July 5th, 2009 at 9:36 PM. Reason: alcohol and spelling don't mix well

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darkshark0159 Joined: Dec 24th, 2007 Last Online: 6:53 AM Location: a snowy land Age: 18 Posts: 1,848 Car: Mercedes-Benz C240 W203 Rep Power: 80	What's next? A neg rep for a 7-series enthusiast: "v12 is gay as ur mom"? __________________

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argatoga Can't Start His Wank Joined: Oct 4th, 2005 Last Online: 6:43 AM Location: Washington State, USA Age: 26 Posts: 4,793 Car: '78 MG Midget, '78 Honda CB400t Rep Power: 164	My favorite neg rep is from my MG's thread: "OMFG!!! rubber bumpers". __________________ "If you think about it breast implants aren't much different than braces. Their main purpose is to improve one's appearance, at least that's how it was in my case." - KaJun "Anyway, I'm off to eat my dick" - Austere

July 6th, 2009, 11:04 AM	#16
Nocturnal Joined: Jun 19th, 2008 Last Online: September 6th, 2009 Location: UK Age: 23 Posts: 353 Car: '91 Mazda MX5 NA6CE Rep Power: 19	Tell him to drive a stock MK1 first. I dare say he'll soon forget about 0-60 times and bhp figures. For what it's worth, a BBR, Mazdaspeed or any other low-PSI (GReddy) turbo set-up really doesn't make them that much faster. The best kits out there are the BEGI turbos, and for s/c's look at Jackson Racing (Mp45 for 1.6L and Mp62 for 1.8L). These cars only really 'feel' powerful pushing between 2-250bhp. Any more is simply too much, and any less still feels a bit lame if you've ever driven a powerful car before. If power and speed was something that's particularly important, I'd probably look elsewhere, such as an Integra Type-R. waits for the anti-FWD crowd __________________

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Stumpy Joined: Jun 29th, 2009 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Chicago, US of A Age: 31 Posts: 94 Car: MazdaSpeed Miata Rep Power: 5	Owning a MazdaSpeed Miata and have driven both NAs and NBs I would say the MazdaSpeed version would very well fit your dad's wants. Mods for the MazdaSpeed are not that expensive. With just a few simple upgrades, you can be putting down 200 hp to the wheels. I am going to keep mine "stock", because it is plenty fast for me. .. __________________ 2004 MazdaSpeed Miata: Pics: Mods: Forge Bypass Valve Some of My Photography: Here: (Cars, Girls and Scenic Stuff)

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