Building my other sister a PC, need input - Page 4

Viper007Bond · October 10th, 2008, 12:31 AM

$18 in shipping for the monitor, but that one's smaller both in size and resolution.

Viper007Bond · October 10th, 2008, 03:29 AM

Okay, so unless anyone has any objections...

CPU + RAM: Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E5200 - Retail + G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail $133.98
Mobo: ECS P45T-A LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $89.99 - $15 MIR
Video Card: EVGA 384-P3-N967-TR GeForce 9600 GSO Superclocked 384MB 192-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
PSU: Rosewill RP500-2 500W ATX12V v2.01 Power Supply - Retail $42.99
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE WD5000AAJS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $64.99
Monitor: Acer X203Wbd Black 20" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail $159.99
Burner: SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q - OEM $25.99
Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $59.99
Speakers: Logitech X-240 25 Watts 2.1 Speaker - Retail $35.99
Keyboard: Microsoft BX1-00005 OEM Silver/Black USB + PS/2 Wired Standard Digital Media Pro Keyboard - OEM $14.99
Mouse: Logitech MX518 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB + PS/2 Wired Optical Gaming-Grade Mouse - Retail $39.99
Mic: Labtec PC Mic 333 980184-0403 Silver 3.5mm Connector Microphone $4.99

Crazyjeeper · October 10th, 2008, 03:33 AM

You sure about that rosewill PSU? I've heard some bad things about them.

I'd recommend something like this Corsair 450w.

Power supply isn't somewhere I want to save money, I want to spend money there, as its arguably the most important component of the entire computer. If it goes, I can take everything else with it.

awdrifter · October 10th, 2008, 03:43 AM

The Rosewill PSU is more than adaquate for his build. It's a dual core 45nm cpu and a 9600GSO, it won't need much power.

Viper007Bond · October 10th, 2008, 03:50 AM

Rosewill is kinda meh brand, but it has a ton of 5 star ratings: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182016

I'm fine with it.

Crazyjeeper · October 10th, 2008, 04:00 AM

Ok, just look at how long most of those people have had the PSU, not very long. That corsair is a rebranded seasonic and I know, for a fact that those run for ever and ever and ever with stupid loads on them. A buddy of mine had an 8800GTS 320, E6300 and 8 hard drives on a 420w seasonic with zero problems for over a year.

Vette Boss · October 10th, 2008, 04:05 AM

Rosewill should be fine for this build, none of the components require enough power for it to be a worry.

Viper007Bond · October 10th, 2008, 04:45 AM

Bought it (got a 22" Acer instead of a 20" though as it was $20 more but free shipping so same cost).

Thanks all! images/smilies/smile.gif

Crazyjeeper · October 10th, 2008, 04:48 AM

Anytime.

awdrifter · October 10th, 2008, 04:57 AM

You're welcome. It should be a very nice comp for your sister.

jeffy777 · October 11th, 2008, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awdrifter

The Rosewill PSU is more than adaquate for his build. It's a dual core 45nm cpu and a 9600GSO, it won't need much power.

It's not the amount of power that is an issue with a Rosewill PSU, but the actual build quality. I had one die on me after just over a year of use, so I personally would never buy one again. But Viper already ordered it anyway, so hopefully mine was just a lemon images/smilies/smile.gif

awdrifter · October 11th, 2008, 07:54 PM

The amount of power does affect the PSU's life though. If he's rig doesn't stress the PSU near it's rated limit, then even a low end PSU is going to last a long time. My PSUs (Antec Basiq 500w and Ultra Xconnect 500w) are consider pretty low end by many reviewers, but they just keep kicking. Because I don't load them past 70% of their rated power, even if I go Crossfire later on it would've only draw about 650w or so.

Viper's rig will only take 196w on stock clocks according to a psu calculator, so 500w is plenty.

jeffy777 · October 11th, 2008, 08:38 PM

Yeah, this is true for most decent PSUs, but it was the fan that died on my Rosewill..........which just points to poor build quality, and not necessarily related to how much power is being used by the PC or the total wattage of the PSU. Not all PSUs are created equal, even if they have the same amount of wattage as a more expensive model. If the build quality is crap (such as a poor quality fan for instance), it wouldn't matter if the PSU was a 500w or 1000w.

But it's been a couple years since my Rosewill PSU died, so maybe they've improved since then images/smilies/smile.gif

awdrifter · October 11th, 2008, 09:10 PM

Yea, if it's the fan that died there's not much you can do. I built a comp for a friend with a Q6600 and HD4850 with a Rosewill 600w PSU, the quality seems good, overclocked the CPU to 3.2ghz and the video card to 700/1100 stable. So hopefully the bad PSU you got was just an isolated incident.

jeffy777 · October 11th, 2008, 09:28 PM

Yeah, I'm guessing it was since their reviews seem to be pretty good these days.

GRtak · October 12th, 2008, 05:10 AM

If you don't care about a video card you can use a MB with the 780G/790GX series of chips. I built one for my niece in the spring and it was surprising how good it is. It has HDMI built right on board, plus you can use it in a crossfire configuration with a video card later on. I Will be building myself a HTPC out of a 790GX board as soon as I get back taxes(FEB/MARCH).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131273 780G board I used

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138128 790GX example

awdrifter · October 12th, 2008, 05:17 AM

I think he already ordered. He's got a 9600GSO (which is a rebadged 8800GS), it should be about to handle most games in medium to high. http://forums.finalgear.com/technolo...-4/#post805145

October 10th, 2008, 12:31 AM	#61
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,988 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 234	$18 in shipping for the monitor, but that one's smaller both in size and resolution. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

October 10th, 2008, 03:29 AM	#62
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,988 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 234	Okay, so unless anyone has any objections... CPU + RAM: Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E5200 - Retail + G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail $133.98 Mobo: ECS P45T-A LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $89.99 - $15 MIR Video Card: EVGA 384-P3-N967-TR GeForce 9600 GSO Superclocked 384MB 192-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail PSU: Rosewill RP500-2 500W ATX12V v2.01 Power Supply - Retail $42.99 Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE WD5000AAJS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $64.99 Monitor: Acer X203Wbd Black 20" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail $159.99 Burner: SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q - OEM $25.99 Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $59.99 Speakers: Logitech X-240 25 Watts 2.1 Speaker - Retail $35.99 Keyboard: Microsoft BX1-00005 OEM Silver/Black USB + PS/2 Wired Standard Digital Media Pro Keyboard - OEM $14.99 Mouse: Logitech MX518 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB + PS/2 Wired Optical Gaming-Grade Mouse - Retail $39.99 Mic: Labtec PC Mic 333 980184-0403 Silver 3.5mm Connector Microphone $4.99 __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

October 10th, 2008, 03:33 AM	#63
Crazyjeeper Joined: Nov 29th, 2006 Last Online: 04:26 AM Location: Texas Age: 19 Posts: 2,497 Car: 1985 Jeep CJ7, 1997 Ford F150 Rep Power: 50	You sure about that rosewill PSU? I've heard some bad things about them. I'd recommend something like this Corsair 450w. Power supply isn't somewhere I want to save money, I want to spend money there, as its arguably the most important component of the entire computer. If it goes, I can take everything else with it. __________________ Toy: 1985 Jeep CJ7 Lifted and Locked Daily Driver: 1997 Ford F150 4.6L with a massive 220hp MSI P6N Diamond 680i, E8400 @ 3.15ghz, CM Hyper 212 Cooler, XFX 8800GT 512mb Extreme, MSI 8400GS, Creative X-FI, 2x1gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, PC Power & Cooling 610w EPS12v, 1.6tb of HDD, CM Centurion 690.

October 10th, 2008, 03:43 AM	#64
awdrifter Joined: Aug 29th, 2004 Last Online: 01:58 AM Posts: 1,490 Rep Power: 25	The Rosewill PSU is more than adaquate for his build. It's a dual core 45nm cpu and a 9600GSO, it won't need much power. __________________ TP

October 10th, 2008, 03:50 AM	#65
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,988 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 234	Rosewill is kinda meh brand, but it has a ton of 5 star ratings: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182016 I'm fine with it. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

October 10th, 2008, 04:00 AM	#66
Crazyjeeper Joined: Nov 29th, 2006 Last Online: 04:26 AM Location: Texas Age: 19 Posts: 2,497 Car: 1985 Jeep CJ7, 1997 Ford F150 Rep Power: 50	Ok, just look at how long most of those people have had the PSU, not very long. That corsair is a rebranded seasonic and I know, for a fact that those run for ever and ever and ever with stupid loads on them. A buddy of mine had an 8800GTS 320, E6300 and 8 hard drives on a 420w seasonic with zero problems for over a year. __________________ Toy: 1985 Jeep CJ7 Lifted and Locked Daily Driver: 1997 Ford F150 4.6L with a massive 220hp MSI P6N Diamond 680i, E8400 @ 3.15ghz, CM Hyper 212 Cooler, XFX 8800GT 512mb Extreme, MSI 8400GS, Creative X-FI, 2x1gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, PC Power & Cooling 610w EPS12v, 1.6tb of HDD, CM Centurion 690.

October 10th, 2008, 04:05 AM	#67
Vette Boss Joined: Nov 14th, 2004 Last Online: 07:35 AM Location: United States, Britain, in time Age: 22 Posts: 2,980 Car: Nissan Altima 3.5-litre SE Rep Power: 34	Rosewill should be fine for this build, none of the components require enough power for it to be a worry. __________________ 2003 Nissan Altima 3.5SE SHIFT_the future

October 10th, 2008, 04:45 AM	#68
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,988 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 234	Bought it (got a 22" Acer instead of a 20" though as it was $20 more but free shipping so same cost). Thanks all! __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

October 10th, 2008, 04:48 AM	#69
Crazyjeeper Joined: Nov 29th, 2006 Last Online: 04:26 AM Location: Texas Age: 19 Posts: 2,497 Car: 1985 Jeep CJ7, 1997 Ford F150 Rep Power: 50	Anytime. __________________ Toy: 1985 Jeep CJ7 Lifted and Locked Daily Driver: 1997 Ford F150 4.6L with a massive 220hp MSI P6N Diamond 680i, E8400 @ 3.15ghz, CM Hyper 212 Cooler, XFX 8800GT 512mb Extreme, MSI 8400GS, Creative X-FI, 2x1gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, PC Power & Cooling 610w EPS12v, 1.6tb of HDD, CM Centurion 690.

October 10th, 2008, 04:57 AM	#70
awdrifter Joined: Aug 29th, 2004 Last Online: 01:58 AM Posts: 1,490 Rep Power: 25	You're welcome. It should be a very nice comp for your sister. __________________ TP

October 11th, 2008, 07:54 PM	#72
awdrifter Joined: Aug 29th, 2004 Last Online: 01:58 AM Posts: 1,490 Rep Power: 25	The amount of power does affect the PSU's life though. If he's rig doesn't stress the PSU near it's rated limit, then even a low end PSU is going to last a long time. My PSUs (Antec Basiq 500w and Ultra Xconnect 500w) are consider pretty low end by many reviewers, but they just keep kicking. Because I don't load them past 70% of their rated power, even if I go Crossfire later on it would've only draw about 650w or so. Viper's rig will only take 196w on stock clocks according to a psu calculator, so 500w is plenty. __________________ TP

October 11th, 2008, 08:38 PM	#73
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 08:17 AM Location: US Age: 27 Posts: 5,633 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 51	Yeah, this is true for most decent PSUs, but it was the fan that died on my Rosewill..........which just points to poor build quality, and not necessarily related to how much power is being used by the PC or the total wattage of the PSU. Not all PSUs are created equal, even if they have the same amount of wattage as a more expensive model. If the build quality is crap (such as a poor quality fan for instance), it wouldn't matter if the PSU was a 500w or 1000w. But it's been a couple years since my Rosewill PSU died, so maybe they've improved since then __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them." Last edited by jeffy777; October 11th, 2008 at 08:55 PM..

October 11th, 2008, 09:10 PM	#74
awdrifter Joined: Aug 29th, 2004 Last Online: 01:58 AM Posts: 1,490 Rep Power: 25	Yea, if it's the fan that died there's not much you can do. I built a comp for a friend with a Q6600 and HD4850 with a Rosewill 600w PSU, the quality seems good, overclocked the CPU to 3.2ghz and the video card to 700/1100 stable. So hopefully the bad PSU you got was just an isolated incident. __________________ TP

October 11th, 2008, 09:28 PM	#75
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 08:17 AM Location: US Age: 27 Posts: 5,633 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 51	Yeah, I'm guessing it was since their reviews seem to be pretty good these days. __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

October 12th, 2008, 05:10 AM	#76
GRtak Joined: Sep 6th, 2008 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Michigan USA Age: 39 Posts: 103 Rep Power: 0	If you don't care about a video card you can use a MB with the 780G/790GX series of chips. I built one for my niece in the spring and it was surprising how good it is. It has HDMI built right on board, plus you can use it in a crossfire configuration with a video card later on. I Will be building myself a HTPC out of a 790GX board as soon as I get back taxes(FEB/MARCH). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131273 780G board I used http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138128 790GX example

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October 12th, 2008, 05:17 AM	#77
awdrifter Joined: Aug 29th, 2004 Last Online: 01:58 AM Posts: 1,490 Rep Power: 25	I think he already ordered. He's got a 9600GSO (which is a rebadged 8800GS), it should be about to handle most games in medium to high. http://forums.finalgear.com/technolo...-4/#post805145 __________________ TP