5th Gen iPod (now with Video!)

evoWALO · October 13th, 2005, 03:00 AM

http://images.apple.com/ipod/images/specstop20051011.jpg

http://images.apple.com/movies/us/ap...51012_h640.mov

*edit by hokiethang* Made the title a little easier to understand

heineken · October 13th, 2005, 03:02 AM

Now we only need to get Top Gear on it images/smilies/smile.gif

Please Viper007, could you consider encoding a version for the iPod's resolution and bitrate ?

That would be awesome.

matt_shaw · October 13th, 2005, 03:10 AM

i dont get your title? the new ipod doesnt come in 5gigs

heineken · October 13th, 2005, 03:16 AM

You've got it wrong 5G stands for 5th Generation.

evoWALO · October 13th, 2005, 04:03 AM

The 5th Gen iPod supports the following video formats

H.264 video: up to 768 Kbps, 320 x 240, 30 frames per sec., Baseline Profile up to Level 1.3 with AAC-LC up to 160 Kbps, 48 Khz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4 and .mov file formats
MPEG-4 video: up to 2.5 mbps, 480 x 480, 30 frames per sec., Simple Profile with AAC-LC up to 160 Kbps, 48 Khz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4 and .mov file formats.

The 320x240 resolution doesnt mean it cant play higher res vids but it can only display that resolution on its built-in screen. As for the resolution it can display on a Standard Definition TV (480i) is still up in the air until someone triesi t out. H.264 was designed to handle HD resolutions of up to 1920x1080. I hope they offer a S-Video/Component cables for it as well. Composite cables sucks gas.

andyhui01 · October 13th, 2005, 04:33 AM

yea... it would be kickass if someone offered TG in that format images/smilies/biggrin.gif

... my lectures won't be that bad after all images/smilies/biggrin.gif

hokiethang · October 13th, 2005, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyhui01

yea... it would be kickass if someone offered TG in that format images/smilies/biggrin.gif

... my lectures won't be that bad after all images/smilies/biggrin.gif

I'd consider doing it (since I have the software required) moreso if I buy a video iPod (since I need something to test it on).

evoWALO · October 13th, 2005, 04:50 AM

hokiethang how much smaller do you think TG/FG will be at H.264 video/768 Kbps/320 x 240/30 frames per sec or MPEG-4 video/2.5 mbps/480 x 480/30 frames per sec.?

cvrefugee · October 13th, 2005, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hokiethang

I'd consider doing it (since I have the software required) moreso if I buy a video iPod (since I need something to test it on).

Here's a little nudge.

42 minute TV episodes are roughly 200MB according to the settings Apple is using, so figure a bit more for an hour Top Gear/Fifth Gear episode.

SL65 · October 13th, 2005, 08:49 AM

http://www.ilounge.com/assets/images/reviews_apple/ipodvideo5/57.jpg

http://www.ilounge.com/assets/images/reviews_apple/ipodvideo5/514.jpg

Wow thats amazing, I WANT ONE!!

I hope they make something bigger than 60GB though. I mean if I want my Top Gear collection on there (18.2GB) + all the other stuff I have and my music (35GB), im gonna be tight for space on a 60GB...

Also, just like the 1G iPod and the recent Nano, it uses the same clear plastic cover which I can report is prone to scratches easily cos I have one.

andyhui01 · October 13th, 2005, 11:22 AM

I don't care.... I want one!!!

XZILER8 · October 13th, 2005, 01:08 PM

I think I'm getting one, but that would be so awesome with Top Gear! This coincides perfectly with the next season. Thank you to anyone considering encoding the shows in H.264 or mpg4.
images/smilies/smile.gif

hokiethang · October 13th, 2005, 01:21 PM

Yeah I want one, I've waited 2 generations (I have a 3rd gen one), but $400 is a bit too much right now.

My only concern about re-encoding TG for the iPod is that it may not be very easy to watch since TG (and FG for that matter) are both in 16x9 aspect ratios, whereas the iPod is only 4x3, so you would have to have black bars on the top and bottom of the video. A PSP would be better suited for TG and FG since its in 16x9 aspect ratio.

Buba · October 13th, 2005, 01:25 PM

Well, if you max out the specs it can handle and want the max. in Video Quality, 1 hour will equal 400 MB...

But since it Plays 320x240 in h.264 you could get very good quality with half the size, or 175 MB, just as it was mentioned above...

@evoWALO: Forget the mpeg 4 video @ 2.5 Mbit/s since that would mean 1,2 gig per hour without any quality improvement... and 480x480 is pretty fucked up images/smilies/wink.gif

Since the source would still be the Finalgear/Vuk rip, I certainly would be SMALLER and never bigger...

If you wanna see yourself how big a certain file would be @ a certain bitrate, google for a bitrate calculator and give it a try...

Lilleput · October 13th, 2005, 01:45 PM

So happy i waited and diddent buy the nano!! - Though it is very sexy!

So can you just put your videos on the ipod or do you have to be a scientist to encode the videos so that the ipod can read them??

hokiethang · October 13th, 2005, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilleput

So happy i waited and diddent buy the nano!! - Though it is very sexy!

So can you just put your videos on the ipod or do you have to be a scientist to encode the videos so that the ipod can read them??

It should be fairly easy if you have quicktime 7.0.3 to re-encode video. I'm going to start with this series making the PSP versions of FG and TG if anyone is interested. I'm not sure how large these will be or how (if) i'll be able to distribute them, but if the PSP ones work out well, i'll look in to re-encoding TG and FG for the iPod (if I can get an iPod to test the videos on).

bartboy9891 · October 13th, 2005, 04:45 PM

wow what a waste of money images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

Buba · October 13th, 2005, 05:11 PM

Since I remember Hokie being quite a tech freak(home cinema) and able to spend money on stuff like that, he won't let the Ipod go to waste...

Others might appreciate that...

Buba

Lilleput · October 13th, 2005, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartboy9891

wow what a waste of money images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

What!? - I can see my self watching Simpsons ect. everytime im bored at work or any other time there is time to kill.

sandor_ · October 13th, 2005, 06:01 PM

..if only it had HDMI out.... HD video and audio =) only being able to hook it up to a tv via composite sucks.

October 13th, 2005, 03:00 AM	#1
evoWALO Joined: Nov 11th, 2004 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Philippines / Naples, Florida Age: 28 Posts: 625 Rep Power: 18	5th Gen iPod (now with Video!) http://images.apple.com/movies/us/ap...51012_h640.mov edit by hokiethang Made the title a little easier to understand

October 13th, 2005, 03:02 AM	#2
heineken Joined: Jul 9th, 2005 Last Online: November 3rd, 2008 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Top Gear Now we only need to get Top Gear on it Please Viper007, could you consider encoding a version for the iPod's resolution and bitrate ? That would be awesome.

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andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: 12:33 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 8,514 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 28	yea... it would be kickass if someone offered TG in that format ... my lectures won't be that bad after all __________________

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andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: 12:33 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 8,514 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 28	I don't care.... I want one!!! __________________

October 13th, 2005, 01:21 PM	#13
hokiethang Global Moderator Joined: Nov 30th, 2004 Last Online: 02:57 AM Location: Northern Virginia, USA Age: 25 Posts: 2,249 Car: 2007 Durango Rep Power: 20	Yeah I want one, I've waited 2 generations (I have a 3rd gen one), but $400 is a bit too much right now. My only concern about re-encoding TG for the iPod is that it may not be very easy to watch since TG (and FG for that matter) are both in 16x9 aspect ratios, whereas the iPod is only 4x3, so you would have to have black bars on the top and bottom of the video. A PSP would be better suited for TG and FG since its in 16x9 aspect ratio. __________________

October 13th, 2005, 03:16 AM	#4
heineken Joined: Jul 9th, 2005 Last Online: November 3rd, 2008 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	You've got it wrong 5G stands for 5th Generation.

October 13th, 2005, 04:03 AM	#5
evoWALO Joined: Nov 11th, 2004 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Philippines / Naples, Florida Age: 28 Posts: 625 Rep Power: 18	The 5th Gen iPod supports the following video formats H.264 video: up to 768 Kbps, 320 x 240, 30 frames per sec., Baseline Profile up to Level 1.3 with AAC-LC up to 160 Kbps, 48 Khz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4 and .mov file formats MPEG-4 video: up to 2.5 mbps, 480 x 480, 30 frames per sec., Simple Profile with AAC-LC up to 160 Kbps, 48 Khz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4 and .mov file formats. The 320x240 resolution doesnt mean it cant play higher res vids but it can only display that resolution on its built-in screen. As for the resolution it can display on a Standard Definition TV (480i) is still up in the air until someone triesi t out. H.264 was designed to handle HD resolutions of up to 1920x1080. I hope they offer a S-Video/Component cables for it as well. Composite cables sucks gas.

October 13th, 2005, 04:50 AM	#8
evoWALO Joined: Nov 11th, 2004 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Philippines / Naples, Florida Age: 28 Posts: 625 Rep Power: 18	hokiethang how much smaller do you think TG/FG will be at H.264 video/768 Kbps/320 x 240/30 frames per sec or MPEG-4 video/2.5 mbps/480 x 480/30 frames per sec.?

October 13th, 2005, 08:49 AM	#10
SL65 Ambitious but rubbish! Joined: Jul 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 18 Posts: 9,189 Car: 1998 Subaru Legacy 2.5L Rep Power: 41	Wow thats amazing, I WANT ONE!! I hope they make something bigger than 60GB though. I mean if I want my Top Gear collection on there (18.2GB) + all the other stuff I have and my music (35GB), im gonna be tight for space on a 60GB... Also, just like the 1G iPod and the recent Nano, it uses the same clear plastic cover which I can report is prone to scratches easily cos I have one.

October 13th, 2005, 01:08 PM	#12
XZILER8 Joined: May 4th, 2005 Last Online: September 21st, 2006 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	I think I'm getting one, but that would be so awesome with Top Gear! This coincides perfectly with the next season. Thank you to anyone considering encoding the shows in H.264 or mpg4.

October 13th, 2005, 01:25 PM	#14
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 6,028 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 40	Well, if you max out the specs it can handle and want the max. in Video Quality, 1 hour will equal 400 MB... But since it Plays 320x240 in h.264 you could get very good quality with half the size, or 175 MB, just as it was mentioned above... @evoWALO: Forget the mpeg 4 video @ 2.5 Mbit/s since that would mean 1,2 gig per hour without any quality improvement... and 480x480 is pretty fucked up Since the source would still be the Finalgear/Vuk rip, I certainly would be SMALLER and never bigger... If you wanna see yourself how big a certain file would be @ a certain bitrate, google for a bitrate calculator and give it a try... __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

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Lilleput Evo-less Joined: Jun 10th, 2005 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: United Kingdom of Denmark Age: 25 Posts: 2,982 Car: Ford S-Max Titanium - 268hp Rep Power: 71	So happy i waited and diddent buy the nano!! - Though it is very sexy! So can you just put your videos on the ipod or do you have to be a scientist to encode the videos so that the ipod can read them?? __________________

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bartboy9891 I'm not Moe Joined: Dec 1st, 2004 Last Online: 02:32 AM Location: University of Michigan Age: 19 Posts: 7,774 Car: 1996 Grand Am SE sedan, and dad's 2006 S60 2.5T Rep Power: 43	wow what a waste of money __________________

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Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 6,028 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 40	Since I remember Hokie being quite a tech freak(home cinema) and able to spend money on stuff like that, he won't let the Ipod go to waste... Others might appreciate that... Buba __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

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sandor_ Joined: Mar 16th, 2005 Last Online: December 28th, 2007 Location: Philadelphia, USA Age: 28 Posts: 1,043 Car: 911, 328i, Golf, '71 Vespa Sprint Rep Power: 0	..if only it had HDMI out.... HD video and audio =) only being able to hook it up to a tv via composite sucks.

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