Bittorrent goes Trackerless!

nutty · May 19th, 2005, 3:55 AM

http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/05/18/2...id=230&tid=218

Sounds like a great step foward for bittorrent, it means that anyone can host a torrent without having to have access to any resources

bihus · May 19th, 2005, 3:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutty

http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/05/18/2254255.shtml?tid=230&tid=218

Sounds like a great step foward for bittorrent, it means that anyone can host a torrent without having to have access to any resources

According to other threads, it might be easier to get caught by the big bad wolf with that type of torrents.

nutty · May 19th, 2005, 4:09 AM

How?
trackers display ip address in clear text, its not that hard to catch someone through bittorrent, especially if you are on the torrent yourself.

This just removes another person from the chain, its going to make the distribution of torrents a lot easier, a user now just needs to upload the torrent to a free website (geoceities ect..) and that’s it. There isn’t a way to track it back to the original source, as the file is just "floating" around.

Now it actually requires effort in setting up a tracker, and if its a big torrent site ensuring that the tracker has enough bandwidth to support thousand of requests. Then the tracker normally relates back to the site, making it easy for someone to find out where the .torrents originated from.

Cruzz563 · May 19th, 2005, 4:17 AM

Someone offered up a distributed torrent not too long ago...it's around here somewhere, I can't find it atm.

/looks in the sofa cushions...

Nope, nothin images/smilies/smile.gif

nutty · May 19th, 2005, 4:28 AM

Yea, I remember that before actually, but if I understand it right it only worked in Azurues.

So now, we dont need trackers or .torrent files, RIAA and MPAA arent going to like that :\

Cruzz563 · May 19th, 2005, 4:58 AM

Well that link you provided says that Bram added "Distibuted Tracker" support for his original BT client. I'm hoping that the next version of ABC will have the built in too, since it uses Shad0w's Core and that uses the original core... images/smilies/smile.gif

nutty · May 19th, 2005, 5:29 AM

Yep, now that the "offical" client supports it, all the other clients will implement it soon

Viper007Bond · May 19th, 2005, 7:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruzz563

Someone offered up a distributed torrent not too long ago...it's around here somewhere, I can't find it atm.

/looks in the sofa cushions...

Nope, nothin images/smilies/smile.gif

http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic.php?t=4530

And there's around 340,000 people on the distributed network right now. images/smilies/smile.gif

TechZ · May 19th, 2005, 8:59 AM

Distributed Tracker is even in Azureus, and eXeem follows it completely, but from what I've heard, it makes it easier for the MPAA/RIAA to nab you in the act.

DB reaches around 400,000 for me images/smilies/smile.gif

Cruzz563 · May 19th, 2005, 10:10 PM

I would think it makes it easier to spoof files too, like put fake one's out there. Since no one is really checking them as they would on an indexing server. It almost makes it like regular P2P imo images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

bahnstormer · May 19th, 2005, 11:17 PM

good point!
however i've seen plenty of spoofs on the big tracker search engines sooo....

Cruzz563 · May 20th, 2005, 1:18 AM

But the difference is those get "NUKED" rather quickly. images/smilies/smile.gif

May 19th, 2005, 3:55 AM	#1
nutty Joined: Mar 15th, 2005 Last Online: September 8th, 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 137 Rep Power: 0	Bittorrent goes Trackerless! http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/05/18/2...id=230&tid=218 Sounds like a great step foward for bittorrent, it means that anyone can host a torrent without having to have access to any resources

May 19th, 2005, 4:09 AM	#3
nutty Joined: Mar 15th, 2005 Last Online: September 8th, 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 137 Rep Power: 0	How? trackers display ip address in clear text, its not that hard to catch someone through bittorrent, especially if you are on the torrent yourself. This just removes another person from the chain, its going to make the distribution of torrents a lot easier, a user now just needs to upload the torrent to a free website (geoceities ect..) and that’s it. There isn’t a way to track it back to the original source, as the file is just "floating" around. Now it actually requires effort in setting up a tracker, and if its a big torrent site ensuring that the tracker has enough bandwidth to support thousand of requests. Then the tracker normally relates back to the site, making it easy for someone to find out where the .torrents originated from. __________________ Boooooooost for when displacement just isn’t enough

May 19th, 2005, 4:17 AM	#4
Cruzz563 Needs a job! Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 18th, 2009 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Posts: 2,684 Rep Power: 31	Someone offered up a distributed torrent not too long ago...it's around here somewhere, I can't find it atm. /looks in the sofa cushions... Nope, nothin __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

May 19th, 2005, 4:58 AM	#6
Cruzz563 Needs a job! Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 18th, 2009 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Posts: 2,684 Rep Power: 31	Well that link you provided says that Bram added "Distibuted Tracker" support for his original BT client. I'm hoping that the next version of ABC will have the built in too, since it uses Shad0w's Core and that uses the original core... __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

May 19th, 2005, 5:29 AM	#7
nutty Joined: Mar 15th, 2005 Last Online: September 8th, 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 137 Rep Power: 0	Yep, now that the "offical" client supports it, all the other clients will implement it soon __________________ Boooooooost for when displacement just isn’t enough

May 19th, 2005, 4:28 AM	#5
nutty Joined: Mar 15th, 2005 Last Online: September 8th, 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 137 Rep Power: 0	Yea, I remember that before actually, but if I understand it right it only worked in Azurues. So now, we dont need trackers or .torrent files, RIAA and MPAA arent going to like that :\

May 19th, 2005, 8:59 AM	#9
TechZ Captain Internet Joined: Dec 19th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Bahrain Age: 25 Posts: 2,921 Car: Audi TT '08 Rep Power: 200	Distributed Tracker is even in Azureus, and eXeem follows it completely, but from what I've heard, it makes it easier for the MPAA/RIAA to nab you in the act. DB reaches around 400,000 for me __________________ techzonline.net

May 19th, 2005, 10:10 PM	#10
Cruzz563 Needs a job! Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 18th, 2009 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Posts: 2,684 Rep Power: 31	I would think it makes it easier to spoof files too, like put fake one's out there. Since no one is really checking them as they would on an indexing server. It almost makes it like regular P2P imo __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

May 19th, 2005, 11:17 PM	#11
bahnstormer Joined: Jan 5th, 2004 Last Online: November 18th, 2009 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 1,451 Rep Power: 0	good point! however i've seen plenty of spoofs on the big tracker search engines sooo.... __________________

May 20th, 2005, 1:18 AM	#12
Cruzz563 Needs a job! Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 18th, 2009 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Posts: 2,684 Rep Power: 31	But the difference is those get "NUKED" rather quickly. __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

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