Burning a DVD in HD...

[BigDaveDogg]

Originally Posted by geeman

The answer is yes. You can burn a HD file on a DVD, just like you can burn a Xvid file on a CD. Only thing is that your player needs to support the format for it to play. HD-DVD or BluRay players most likely don't support mkv/x264 and other stuff used in HD encoding. Only choice is to use the "normal" HD-DVD/BluRay encoding, but then the file won't fit on a DVD disc.

It will on a dual layer, but I'm trying to do it right, on a 15gb HD DVD disc. Just need to know if my drive can write in HD, and I don't think it can

[matt2000]

to be honest i haven't heard of any new writers that can write to HD-DVD. i know there are some blu-ray writers out there, but no HD-DVDs afaik

[BigDaveDogg]

Originally Posted by matt2000

to be honest i haven't heard of any new writers that can write to HD-DVD. i know there are some blu-ray writers out there, but no HD-DVDs afaik

Damn, that's hurtin. Wtf?

[mike4192]

Do you have a 360? If so, you could stream the video to it.

[BigDaveDogg]

Originally Posted by mike4192

Do you have a 360? If so, you could stream the video to it.

Nope, don't play video games...

[geeman]

Originally Posted by BigDaveDogg

It will on a dual layer, but I'm trying to do it right, on a 15gb HD DVD disc.

And another thing I forgot to mention is that HDDVD/BluRay discs have the data more densely on the disc therefore the data transfer speed is much higher. That may be a problem in playback too. For example a .VOB file from a DVD will stutter if you burn it to a CD and try to play it back in a regular player.

Just need to know if my drive can write in HD, and I don't think it can

Any drive can write any data. The drive just writes 1's and 0's, all you need is the right software.

[BigDaveDogg]

Originally Posted by geeman

Any drive can write any data. The drive just writes 1's and 0's, all you need is the right software.

So my DVD burner should be able to burn to a HD DVD as long as I have software to do it?

[watisdis]

Originally Posted by geeman

Any drive can write any data. The drive just writes 1's and 0's, all you need is the right software.

No it cannot! BluRay/HD-DVDs use a different blue laser altogether and are not compatible with regular DVD/CD red lasers. I think you're just making matters worse, geeman. We already established that there is no consumer software for burning HD-DVD content, only BluRay. So please stop confusing BigDaveDog, he cannot burn HD-DVD content, period!

[geeman]

Originally Posted by watisdis

No it cannot! BluRay/HD-DVDs use a different blue laser altogether and are not compatible with regular DVD/CD red lasers.

?? I didn't mean that any drive can write on any disc

I think you're just making matters worse, geeman.

Seems so

to BigDaveDogg: There is no way of doing what you want to do!

[BigDaveDogg]

[BigDaveDogg]

Someone develop some software for us all

[Vette Boss]

Software which will turn a red laser, into a blue one?

[BigDaveDogg]

Originally Posted by Vette Boss

Software which will turn a red laser, into a blue one?

Nah a HD DVD burner would be nice too. Develop one of those too

[Dr.Kamiya]

Man people are so unfriendly!

To OP: Yes, you can burn HD-DVD content onto a regular DVD. This encoding profile is normally called 3X DVD, because one 720P HD movie will normally burn onto 3 standard DVDS.

I'm afraid you're asking a question in the wrong forum though, doom9 is a much better place to look for this sort of info than FG. Here's the particular thread you want: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=128409

[Dr.Kamiya]

Originally Posted by geeman

HD-DVD or BluRay players most likely don't support mkv/x264 and other stuff used in HD encoding.

??? Where did you pull that out from? HD DVD content is encoded using h264, which is basically the same standard the open-source x264 encoder follows. The mkv container is obviously not used, because HD DVD and BluRay have their own stream formats, but that is not to say they will not play h264 (which they do). In fact, full quality HD releases are often quick, because very little re-encoding takes place. For most mkv/x264 releases, the encode groups will simply demux the original TS file, possibly re-encode DTS audio to MP3 or AAC, and then remux into mkv. The video itself is often not re-coded, because BluRay and HD-DVD already store their data as h264.

Again to OP: Aside from HD content on regular DVDs, it's also possible to encode the video as WMV-HD (basically VC1) format.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...d/default.aspx

[geeman]

I have to admit I am little confused about HD encoding (well, I don't know much about encoding SD either). Anyway, why don't they use x264 on commercial so the movie would fit in to ~10GB instead of taking 20-30GB? Or are the bitrates just so much bigger? What about 720p movies, that could easily fit to a dual-layer DVD disc, why won't HDDVD or BluRay players play those? or do they? I thought H264 and x264 are not the same thing?

[BigDaveDogg]

Damn now BigDave doesn't know what to think...

[Dr.Kamiya]

Originally Posted by geeman

I have to admit I am little confused about HD encoding (well, I don't know much about encoding SD either). Anyway, why don't they use x264 on commercial so the movie would fit in to ~10GB instead of taking 20-30GB? Or are the bitrates just so much bigger? What about 720p movies, that could easily fit to a dual-layer DVD disc, why won't HDDVD or BluRay players play those? or do they? I thought H264 and x264 are not the same thing?

The bitrates are higher for most HD-DVD and BluRay content. To clarify, h264 refers to the codec, x264 is a freeware encoder for h264. So basically anything labelled x264 is h264 content.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X264

x264 is a free software library for encoding H.264/MPEG-4 AVC video streams. Written from scratch by Loren Merritt, Laurent Aimar, Eric Petit, Min Chen, Justin Clay, Måns Rullgård, Radek Czyz, Alex Izvorski, Alex Wright, and Christian Heine, it is released under the terms of the GNU General Public License.

HD-DVD players will play HD content written to normal DVDs, that's what 3X DVD is all about. The thing is you can't just dump the mkv or ts file onto the disc, you still have to format the content so it's in a recognizable HD-DVD format. (Basically what the doom9 guide teaches us to do)

I'm not entirely sure if the same is true for BluRay, but seeing as you can play a normal DVD on a BluRay player, there should be a way to place BluRay content on a normal DVD as well.

[cvrefugee]

Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya

Man people are so unfriendly!

To OP: Yes, you can burn HD-DVD content onto a regular DVD. This encoding profile is normally called 3X DVD, because one 720P HD movie will normally burn onto 3 standard DVDS.

I'm afraid you're asking a question in the wrong forum though, doom9 is a much better place to look for this sort of info than FG. Here's the particular thread you want: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=128409

I've never heard of that, but it seems like a lot of work (but not for a dedicated pirate I guess).