DivX And DVDs?

Speedtouch · December 8th, 2007, 06:02 PM

This is really a question of how you guys get DivX .avis onto DVD for hard collections. I am wanting to put Heroes (and possibly TG) onto DVDs but cannot.

I do have Pinnacle Studio 10 Quickstart, but this is pointless. I can get it to the sage at which it is going to put it onto DVD, but it takes, genuinely, 2hrs or so each episode, and crashes after normaly one. And it always tells me that I have gone over the normal capacity of a 4.7GB DVD, when I know I have not.

Help please. Don't worry about Studio, all I want to know is how to get DivX stuff onto DVD so I can play it on a standard player. And if possible a menu would be useful.

argatoga · December 8th, 2007, 06:08 PM

I haven't used it personally, but I hear Nero does just what you want.
http://www.nero.com

db2450 · December 8th, 2007, 09:13 PM

The problem is that all of these programs will only let you use 2 hours of video per DVD. Now if you DVD player plays DivX burn it as a data DVD.

IceBone · December 8th, 2007, 09:27 PM

Was introduced to Nero Vision yesterday and it is the dog's cahoonas. Very recommended. And it's not true that it'll allow only 2 hours. Depending on the quality you set (e.g. bitrate), you can get up to 4 hours, but at lower quality.

Speedtouch · December 8th, 2007, 09:56 PM

Yes. I'm giving Nero Vision Express 3 a go now. It really is so much easier to work with.

The only problem with it is that it says it goes over. I know for a fact that the episodes are in total about 4.4GB, but this says they are just over 6GB. I am burning it to an image atm, and then will see what I can do.

Turning down the bitrate I know is an option, and have tried. But it won't let it go lower than 1640kbps or so. I don't know any way of solving this.

Thanks especially to argatoga for suggesting Nero as well.

argatoga · December 8th, 2007, 10:05 PM

DVD are stored in MPEG2 opposed to Xvid or whatnot. MPEG2 is not as effective at compression and as such takes up more space at roughly the same quality. So a 700MB file may end up being 1.2 GB. You will need to make multiple DVDs, unless you have a fancy one which will play other codecs such as Divx/Xvid.
You can bump down the bit-rate, but don't go too low, as the quality will take a noise dive, on a standard definition tv this won't be as much as an issue though.

Speedtouch · December 8th, 2007, 10:17 PM

Hmm... that info does help. Thanks. I now get why it is showing me 6GB or so.

But:
You say don't go too low. What is to low? Nero says a minimum of 1600kbps or so, and windows says the current DivX files are 229kbps. What would you advise for a standard def TV? And I still don't know if I can make the bitrate any lower. Anyone an expert in Nero? images/smilies/lol.gif

IceBone · December 8th, 2007, 10:17 PM

Hmm... i got the latest Nero 8, which comes with Vision 5, maybe that's a little better. Also, try to use 2 pass encode, not just single pass. Might give you some extra leeway.

IceBone · December 8th, 2007, 10:17 PM

What's the total length of the episodes?

Speedtouch · December 8th, 2007, 11:08 PM

They are around 470 minutes long in total. I have used 2 pass encode, but it didn't give any extra leeway in the bitrate, as apposed to single pass encoding.

IceBone · December 8th, 2007, 11:10 PM

Yeah, that's 8 hours. I said maximum of 4 per dvd. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Speedtouch · December 8th, 2007, 11:14 PM

Hmm... Well, there can't be any harm in trying. Mainly because its pointless restarting something which should take around 5hrs when its 2hrs into it. I'll have to leave it overnight.

jeffy777 · December 9th, 2007, 07:43 AM

My DVD player plays DivX files, so I just burn them as data. I can fit a whole season of high quality vids on one data DVD. The player was only around $50. It's a Phillips something or other.

cvrefugee · December 9th, 2007, 07:55 AM

http://www.dvdflick.net

Speedtouch · December 9th, 2007, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffy777

My DVD player plays DivX files, so I just burn them as data. I can fit a whole season of high quality vids on one data DVD. The player was only around $50. It's a Phillips something or other.

The problem I have is that its for a friend. And I don't know whether their DVD player plays DivX. And asking them would be stupid because its a present.

IceBone · December 9th, 2007, 11:57 AM

You're gonna have to redo it unless you have a dual layer burner and some DVD-9s, you know. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Speedtouch · December 9th, 2007, 02:06 PM

^Yeah. I've set it off up to ep7. I'll do 2 DVDs.

But yeah, Nero is the way to do it if people want to put TG on DVDs or whatever.

IceBone · December 9th, 2007, 02:47 PM

Nero Vision even makes it easy to do menus. I just wonder how easy it is to make your own.

Speedtouch · December 9th, 2007, 07:28 PM

^ What do you mean make your own. Code them an all? Why would you want to do that?

December 8th, 2007, 06:02 PM	#1
Speedtouch Joined: Jul 30th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Kent, England Age: 16 Posts: 2,855 Rep Power: 34	DivX And DVDs? This is really a question of how you guys get DivX .avis onto DVD for hard collections. I am wanting to put Heroes (and possibly TG) onto DVDs but cannot. I do have Pinnacle Studio 10 Quickstart, but this is pointless. I can get it to the sage at which it is going to put it onto DVD, but it takes, genuinely, 2hrs or so each episode, and crashes after normaly one. And it always tells me that I have gone over the normal capacity of a 4.7GB DVD, when I know I have not. Help please. Don't worry about Studio, all I want to know is how to get DivX stuff onto DVD so I can play it on a standard player. And if possible a menu would be useful. __________________ Eyre Photography

December 8th, 2007, 09:27 PM	#4
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 01:39 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,890 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 74	Was introduced to Nero Vision yesterday and it is the dog's cahoonas. Very recommended. And it's not true that it'll allow only 2 hours. Depending on the quality you set (e.g. bitrate), you can get up to 4 hours, but at lower quality. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

December 8th, 2007, 09:56 PM	#5
Speedtouch Joined: Jul 30th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Kent, England Age: 16 Posts: 2,855 Rep Power: 34	Yes. I'm giving Nero Vision Express 3 a go now. It really is so much easier to work with. The only problem with it is that it says it goes over. I know for a fact that the episodes are in total about 4.4GB, but this says they are just over 6GB. I am burning it to an image atm, and then will see what I can do. Turning down the bitrate I know is an option, and have tried. But it won't let it go lower than 1640kbps or so. I don't know any way of solving this. Thanks especially to argatoga for suggesting Nero as well. __________________ Eyre Photography

December 8th, 2007, 10:17 PM	#7
Speedtouch Joined: Jul 30th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Kent, England Age: 16 Posts: 2,855 Rep Power: 34	Hmm... that info does help. Thanks. I now get why it is showing me 6GB or so. But: You say don't go too low. What is to low? Nero says a minimum of 1600kbps or so, and windows says the current DivX files are 229kbps. What would you advise for a standard def TV? And I still don't know if I can make the bitrate any lower. Anyone an expert in Nero? __________________ Eyre Photography

December 8th, 2007, 10:17 PM	#8
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 01:39 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,890 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 74	Hmm... i got the latest Nero 8, which comes with Vision 5, maybe that's a little better. Also, try to use 2 pass encode, not just single pass. Might give you some extra leeway. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

December 8th, 2007, 06:08 PM	#2
argatoga Can't Start His Wank Joined: Oct 4th, 2005 Last Online: 02:52 AM Location: Washington State, USA Age: 25 Posts: 2,107 Car: '97 Mustang GT, '78 MG Midget (12a swap) Rep Power: 52	I haven't used it personally, but I hear Nero does just what you want. http://www.nero.com

December 8th, 2007, 09:13 PM	#3
db2450 Joined: Jul 25th, 2007 Last Online: 12:29 AM Posts: 541 Rep Power: 8	The problem is that all of these programs will only let you use 2 hours of video per DVD. Now if you DVD player plays DivX burn it as a data DVD.

December 8th, 2007, 10:05 PM	#6
argatoga Can't Start His Wank Joined: Oct 4th, 2005 Last Online: 02:52 AM Location: Washington State, USA Age: 25 Posts: 2,107 Car: '97 Mustang GT, '78 MG Midget (12a swap) Rep Power: 52	DVD are stored in MPEG2 opposed to Xvid or whatnot. MPEG2 is not as effective at compression and as such takes up more space at roughly the same quality. So a 700MB file may end up being 1.2 GB. You will need to make multiple DVDs, unless you have a fancy one which will play other codecs such as Divx/Xvid. You can bump down the bit-rate, but don't go too low, as the quality will take a noise dive, on a standard definition tv this won't be as much as an issue though.

December 8th, 2007, 11:08 PM	#10
Speedtouch Joined: Jul 30th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Kent, England Age: 16 Posts: 2,855 Rep Power: 34	They are around 470 minutes long in total. I have used 2 pass encode, but it didn't give any extra leeway in the bitrate, as apposed to single pass encoding. __________________ Eyre Photography

December 8th, 2007, 11:10 PM	#11
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 01:39 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,890 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 74	Yeah, that's 8 hours. I said maximum of 4 per dvd. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

December 8th, 2007, 11:14 PM	#12
Speedtouch Joined: Jul 30th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Kent, England Age: 16 Posts: 2,855 Rep Power: 34	Hmm... Well, there can't be any harm in trying. Mainly because its pointless restarting something which should take around 5hrs when its 2hrs into it. I'll have to leave it overnight. __________________ Eyre Photography

December 9th, 2007, 07:43 AM	#13
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: US Age: 27 Posts: 5,662 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 53	My DVD player plays DivX files, so I just burn them as data. I can fit a whole season of high quality vids on one data DVD. The player was only around $50. It's a Phillips something or other. __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

December 9th, 2007, 07:55 AM	#14
cvrefugee Joined: Aug 16th, 2004 Last Online: 02:15 AM Location: Corona, CA Age: 28 Posts: 3,450 Car: 2005 Scion xB Rep Power: 60	http://www.dvdflick.net

December 9th, 2007, 11:57 AM	#16
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 01:39 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,890 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 74	You're gonna have to redo it unless you have a dual layer burner and some DVD-9s, you know. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

December 9th, 2007, 02:06 PM	#17
Speedtouch Joined: Jul 30th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Kent, England Age: 16 Posts: 2,855 Rep Power: 34	^Yeah. I've set it off up to ep7. I'll do 2 DVDs. But yeah, Nero is the way to do it if people want to put TG on DVDs or whatever. __________________ Eyre Photography

December 9th, 2007, 02:47 PM	#18
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 01:39 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,890 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 74	Nero Vision even makes it easy to do menus. I just wonder how easy it is to make your own. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

December 9th, 2007, 07:28 PM	#19
Speedtouch Joined: Jul 30th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Kent, England Age: 16 Posts: 2,855 Rep Power: 34	^ What do you mean make your own. Code them an all? Why would you want to do that? __________________