DVD/CD-Writer issues

oliB · January 19th, 2006, 04:39 PM

Hey!

There's something wrong with my DVD/CD-writer, maybe you guys can help me figure out what it is. I've already wasted 4 CDS trying to burn a regular Data CD (BMI and JC - Heaven and Hell). Here's what happens:

I insert the CD-R, choose the files in Nero and start the writing process. Everything appears to be normal, progress bar normal, no error message, nothing. After a while it tells me it's done. When I try to read the CD though, the Writer tells me it's empty and my regular DVD-drive can't read it at all. It's not empty tho, I can't use the CD-R again and carefully looking at it confirms that it is indeed not empty.

Hopefully it's not broken, just some software issue. The drive is about 2.5 years old, which means it's out of warranty and I won't get a free replacement. I also have a new laptop, which I could use to burn CDs or DVDs. Using this instead would be somewhat of a hassle though, as I'm still using my Desktop PC when I'm at home.

Thanks!
Oliver

flamingice · January 19th, 2006, 04:43 PM

I've had that problem occasionally... bu never 4 CD's in a row. If it was me with the problem, I'd probably go and buy a RW CD, and fiddle around with stuff and see if I can get it to work. The first thing I'd try doing is using a different burning program, see if that helps at all.

Good luck.

AxlxA · January 19th, 2006, 04:44 PM

my experience with cdrw and dvdrw burning cd is that....

i owned 3 dvdrw. all 3's cdrw lens i guess broke due to excessive burning. Now i cannot even burn cds with my dvdrw. I have to use a separate cdrw drive. But your problem seems as if it DOES burn but it tells you it is done. does the discs look normal to you? do you see that ring around the disk when the new data is written? do you have another computer to try it on?

Buba · January 19th, 2006, 04:45 PM

The writing prog doesn't tell you there is a problem?

I had this once, and received a new drive (and a way better one...) only to encounter half a cake of CD-Rs was bad...

Buba

jensked · January 19th, 2006, 05:05 PM

Have you already tried another burning program?

And what happens if you burn one and tell Nero to verify the data after the writing?

flamingice · January 19th, 2006, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jensked

And what happens if you burn one and tell Nero to verify the data after the writing?

Ahh, yes. Forgot about that. images/smilies/smile.gif

bone · January 19th, 2006, 05:18 PM

already tried burning with another software?

try WMP or the tool you get with windows

oliB · January 19th, 2006, 05:53 PM

Thanks for all the quick replies guys!

What Buba said about bad CD-Rs reminded me of something. I took the CD-Rs out of a pack I just recently opened. I've now tried burning BMI on one of the CD-RWs I had laying around and it worked flawlessly, including the verification thing.

I've had successful burns before though and the CD-Rs also work with my laptop. Looks like they just don't seem to work very well with my desktop PC writer. Anyways, I come to the conclusion that my writer is not broken which makes me very happy! Everybody agree?

jensked · January 19th, 2006, 05:55 PM

You happy, me happy.

AxlxA · January 19th, 2006, 06:06 PM

now what can you do about that cake of bad CD-rs. I say warranty it with the manufactuer!

probably shipping would cost more than buying a new pack

oliB · January 19th, 2006, 06:15 PM

Well, I can burn stuff on the CD-Rs with my laptop and they are readable afterwards. Hence, the problem doesn't seem to be so much that the CD-Rs are "bad" in general, this brand just doesn't work very well with my CD/DVD-writer. I have to admit though, that's the first time I'm having those sort of problems in ~2.5 years.

I think I'll just burn the remaining ones, still almost 20 CD-Rs, with my laptop and buy another brand next time! images/smilies/smile.gif

bone · January 19th, 2006, 06:59 PM

emtec or philips images/smilies/wink.gif

the only brands i buy

Buba · January 19th, 2006, 07:23 PM

Verbatim, TDK and Benq DVD-Rs and Platinum CD-Rs here...

oliB · January 19th, 2006, 08:21 PM

The "bad ones" I have ATM are from Tevion. Bought at Aldi, the biggest German discounter for those who don't know. Guess I'll pay the prenium for better CD-Rs next time! images/smilies/wink.gif

Buba · January 19th, 2006, 08:39 PM

Tevion aren't that cheap anymore, are they? Last time I bought Platinum CD-Rs (had maybe 500 of them and never problems) they were 8 Euros for 50... @Walmart

jeffy777 · January 19th, 2006, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliB

The "bad ones" I have ATM are from Tevion. Bought at Aldi, the biggest German discounter for those who don't know. Guess I'll pay the prenium for better CD-Rs next time! images/smilies/wink.gif

Hey, we got Aldi here in the US as well. I love that place.

Bad CD-Rs are always nice for target practice, cup coasters, or miniture fisbees. Some colors serve as nice pocket mirrors as well.

mautzel · January 19th, 2006, 10:23 PM

Should remember not to buy any Aldi CD-R's any more, though I didn't have problems with them before - now that we're already talking about CD-R's: did anybody ever encounter problems with the durability of CD-RW's? I checked one of my back-ups today just to realise that neither my DVD nor my CD drive could read that particular Intenso CD-RW any more (I had the same problem with the same CD-RW's last year when I really needed them because my computer DID break down, somehow I luckily could recover all my missing data from the hard disc afterwards). All the CD-RW's were probably 1,5 - 2,5 years old and I did overwrite them several times before, adn I stored them in my cupboard, so Light shouldn't have caused the loss.

oliB · January 19th, 2006, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buba

Tevion aren't that cheap anymore, are they? Last time I bought Platinum CD-Rs (had maybe 500 of them and never problems) they were 8 Euros for 50... @Walmart

No clue how much they were. I usually don't look at the prices when buying stuff at the supermarket to be honest, at least not if it's something as trivial as CD-Rs. But I'll probably buy Intensos or something like that next time at some electronics retailer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mautzel

did anybody ever encounter problems with the durability of CD-RW's?

I never had problems reading CD-RWs. I have no idea what the oldest one was/is though, so no real long-term experience here...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffy777

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliB

The "bad ones" I have ATM are from Tevion. Bought at Aldi, the biggest German discounter for those who don't know. Guess I'll pay the prenium for better CD-Rs next time! images/smilies/wink.gif

Hey, we got Aldi here in the US as well. I love that place.

You do?? (Ok, a look at their hp confirms it.) I have never seen an Aldi store in the US even though I've been to the states like a hundred times... I'll watch out on my next trip! images/smilies/smile.gif

bone · January 20th, 2006, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mautzel

Should remember not to buy any Aldi CD-R's any more, though I didn't have problems with them before - now that we're already talking about CD-R's: did anybody ever encounter problems with the durability of CD-RW's? I checked one of my back-ups today just to realise that neither my DVD nor my CD drive could read that particular Intenso CD-RW any more (I had the same problem with the same CD-RW's last year when I really needed them because my computer DID break down, somehow I luckily could recover all my missing data from the hard disc afterwards). All the CD-RW's were probably 1,5 - 2,5 years old and I did overwrite them several times before, adn I stored them in my cupboard, so Light shouldn't have caused the loss.

HELL YEAH!!!

i've never been able to use an RW for longer than 2 months, they always start giving errors

and i neither knew there were aldis in the US. and buba, you go to wallmart? in germany? didn't know there were any in europe

mautzel · January 20th, 2006, 11:18 AM

2 months! What are you doing with them?

I was really surprised to see that Aldi is well represented all over Britain when I went there last year as is Lidl (but only Lidl is offering most of the stuff which you can buy in Germany as well, the sortiment of Aldi differs quite a lot abroad).

Walmart is rather common in Germany, they took over another store chain which was called Wertkauf ten or fifteen years ago and simply renamed all their stores - I hardly go shopping there at all because the nearest Walmart I know to my place is about 30Km away.

January 19th, 2006, 04:39 PM	#1
oliB Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 1,391 Rep Power: 0	DVD/CD-Writer issues Hey! There's something wrong with my DVD/CD-writer, maybe you guys can help me figure out what it is. I've already wasted 4 CDS trying to burn a regular Data CD (BMI and JC - Heaven and Hell). Here's what happens: I insert the CD-R, choose the files in Nero and start the writing process. Everything appears to be normal, progress bar normal, no error message, nothing. After a while it tells me it's done. When I try to read the CD though, the Writer tells me it's empty and my regular DVD-drive can't read it at all. It's not empty tho, I can't use the CD-R again and carefully looking at it confirms that it is indeed not empty. Hopefully it's not broken, just some software issue. The drive is about 2.5 years old, which means it's out of warranty and I won't get a free replacement. I also have a new laptop, which I could use to burn CDs or DVDs. Using this instead would be somewhat of a hassle though, as I'm still using my Desktop PC when I'm at home. Thanks! Oliver __________________

January 19th, 2006, 04:43 PM	#2
flamingice Joined: Nov 25th, 2005 Last Online: January 1st, 2009 Location: It's complicated. Posts: 865 Rep Power: 13	I've had that problem occasionally... bu never 4 CD's in a row. If it was me with the problem, I'd probably go and buy a RW CD, and fiddle around with stuff and see if I can get it to work. The first thing I'd try doing is using a different burning program, see if that helps at all. Good luck. __________________

January 19th, 2006, 04:44 PM	#3
AxlxA Joined: Jan 3rd, 2005 Last Online: December 19th, 2008 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,541 Rep Power: 18	my experience with cdrw and dvdrw burning cd is that.... i owned 3 dvdrw. all 3's cdrw lens i guess broke due to excessive burning. Now i cannot even burn cds with my dvdrw. I have to use a separate cdrw drive. But your problem seems as if it DOES burn but it tells you it is done. does the discs look normal to you? do you see that ring around the disk when the new data is written? do you have another computer to try it on? __________________ My FlickR Gallery! Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz with Artic Freezer 7 Pro. 4gb PC6400. MSI 8800GT OC 512mb. 2TB of space. Antec Nine Hundred Case. Logitech G25. Logitech G7 gaming mouse. Logitech VX Revolution. Saitek Eclipse Keyboard. Dell Ultrasharp 2407wfp-HC and Ultrasharp 2007wfp. Senheiser HD280 Headphones.

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jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 4,007 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 43	Have you already tried another burning program? And what happens if you burn one and tell Nero to verify the data after the writing? __________________

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bone "bangle for president" Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: belgium!! Age: 24 Posts: 6,085 Car: yamaha banshee (and an opel astra from work) Rep Power: 29	already tried burning with another software? try WMP or the tool you get with windows __________________ groups/artists i've seen live: coldplay, the cure, cypress hill, damian marley, deftones, depeche mode, dEUS, franz ferdinand, grandaddy, guns n' roses, interpol, jamiroquai, korn, lenny kravits, marilyn manson, massive attack, metallica, moby, muse, the pixies, placebo, prodigy, queens of the stone age, the raconteurs, radiohead, red hot chili peppers, REM, skin, tool, the who, Wu-Tang and so many more...

January 19th, 2006, 05:53 PM	#8
oliB Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 1,391 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for all the quick replies guys! What Buba said about bad CD-Rs reminded me of something. I took the CD-Rs out of a pack I just recently opened. I've now tried burning BMI on one of the CD-RWs I had laying around and it worked flawlessly, including the verification thing. I've had successful burns before though and the CD-Rs also work with my laptop. Looks like they just don't seem to work very well with my desktop PC writer. Anyways, I come to the conclusion that my writer is not broken which makes me very happy! Everybody agree? __________________

January 19th, 2006, 05:55 PM	#9
jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 4,007 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 43	You happy, me happy. __________________

January 19th, 2006, 06:06 PM	#10
AxlxA Joined: Jan 3rd, 2005 Last Online: December 19th, 2008 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,541 Rep Power: 18	now what can you do about that cake of bad CD-rs. I say warranty it with the manufactuer! probably shipping would cost more than buying a new pack __________________ My FlickR Gallery! Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz with Artic Freezer 7 Pro. 4gb PC6400. MSI 8800GT OC 512mb. 2TB of space. Antec Nine Hundred Case. Logitech G25. Logitech G7 gaming mouse. Logitech VX Revolution. Saitek Eclipse Keyboard. Dell Ultrasharp 2407wfp-HC and Ultrasharp 2007wfp. Senheiser HD280 Headphones.

January 19th, 2006, 06:15 PM	#11
oliB Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 1,391 Rep Power: 0	Well, I can burn stuff on the CD-Rs with my laptop and they are readable afterwards. Hence, the problem doesn't seem to be so much that the CD-Rs are "bad" in general, this brand just doesn't work very well with my CD/DVD-writer. I have to admit though, that's the first time I'm having those sort of problems in ~2.5 years. I think I'll just burn the remaining ones, still almost 20 CD-Rs, with my laptop and buy another brand next time! __________________

January 19th, 2006, 06:59 PM	#12
bone "bangle for president" Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: belgium!! Age: 24 Posts: 6,085 Car: yamaha banshee (and an opel astra from work) Rep Power: 29	emtec or philips the only brands i buy __________________ groups/artists i've seen live: coldplay, the cure, cypress hill, damian marley, deftones, depeche mode, dEUS, franz ferdinand, grandaddy, guns n' roses, interpol, jamiroquai, korn, lenny kravits, marilyn manson, massive attack, metallica, moby, muse, the pixies, placebo, prodigy, queens of the stone age, the raconteurs, radiohead, red hot chili peppers, REM, skin, tool, the who, Wu-Tang and so many more...

January 19th, 2006, 07:23 PM	#13
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 6,028 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 40	Verbatim, TDK and Benq DVD-Rs and Platinum CD-Rs here... __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

January 19th, 2006, 08:21 PM	#14
oliB Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 1,391 Rep Power: 0	The "bad ones" I have ATM are from Tevion. Bought at Aldi, the biggest German discounter for those who don't know. Guess I'll pay the prenium for better CD-Rs next time! __________________

January 19th, 2006, 08:39 PM	#15
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 6,028 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 40	Tevion aren't that cheap anymore, are they? Last time I bought Platinum CD-Rs (had maybe 500 of them and never problems) they were 8 Euros for 50... @Walmart __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

January 19th, 2006, 10:23 PM	#17
mautzel Joined: Jan 28th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Frankfurt/M, Deutschland Age: 28 Posts: 2,456 Car: Golf IV TDI Rep Power: 22	Should remember not to buy any Aldi CD-R's any more, though I didn't have problems with them before - now that we're already talking about CD-R's: did anybody ever encounter problems with the durability of CD-RW's? I checked one of my back-ups today just to realise that neither my DVD nor my CD drive could read that particular Intenso CD-RW any more (I had the same problem with the same CD-RW's last year when I really needed them because my computer DID break down, somehow I luckily could recover all my missing data from the hard disc afterwards). All the CD-RW's were probably 1,5 - 2,5 years old and I did overwrite them several times before, adn I stored them in my cupboard, so Light shouldn't have caused the loss.

January 20th, 2006, 11:18 AM	#20
mautzel Joined: Jan 28th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Frankfurt/M, Deutschland Age: 28 Posts: 2,456 Car: Golf IV TDI Rep Power: 22	2 months! What are you doing with them? I was really surprised to see that Aldi is well represented all over Britain when I went there last year as is Lidl (but only Lidl is offering most of the stuff which you can buy in Germany as well, the sortiment of Aldi differs quite a lot abroad). Walmart is rather common in Germany, they took over another store chain which was called Wertkauf ten or fifteen years ago and simply renamed all their stores - I hardly go shopping there at all because the nearest Walmart I know to my place is about 30Km away.

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