Getting a new comp soon, would like some input

[fareway]

Right, i finally decided to replace this..... well, i'll be nice and call it a step down from a pile of mud

I don't know all that much from computers so i asked a friend of mine for some advice.... problem is that he's not exactly an expert either since he had to ask a friend of his

Anyway, here's what we came up with:

MOBO
GPU
case
HD
RAM (PDF link)
CPU

And of course the obvious stuff like a CD and DVD burner, multi card reader and vista 64bit


Right, now the one thing that's left is the PSU, anyone know what kind this thing would need? keep in mind that at some point it will get a second GPU (possible third aswell) and second HD

Any other suggestions would be welcome aswell

[Koenig]

I'm looking around for a new comp right now as well, and the concensus is that if you plan on getting 2 GPU's later, 1000w should be what your looking for.

[73GMCSprint]

That's a pretty serious setup you're thinking about. I've never used an eVGA mobo, but if they're anything like their GPUs, it should be great. Whatever you decide on, don't get anything with a chipset lower than the 680i if you're going to go SLI.

An 800W power supply should be more than sufficient for 2 high end GPUs, but if you're actually thinking about a third in the future, then definitely go with a 1000+W PSU.

I think the only change I would make would be swap the Sparkle GPU for an eVGA unit, though that may just be personal preference.

[Goose+]

Great components but my only concern is that you need to make sure your case has enough room for the 8880GTX.

[Shadowness]

Originally Posted by fareway

keep in mind that at some point it will get a second GPU (possible third aswell) and second HD

Out of curiosity, what size monitor do/will you use on this comp? If its anything more than 27" or so, then going down the SLI route is silly in my book, unless you have a lot of money to burn!
And I really hope the reference to a third gpu was a joke!!

[fareway]

An 800W power supply should be more than sufficient for 2 high end GPUs, but if you're actually thinking about a third in the future, then definitely go with a 1000+W PSU.

bollocks, i was really hoping that wouldnt be the case, but meh whats another 200€

I think the only change I would make would be swap the Sparkle GPU for an eVGA unit, though that may just be personal preference

Yeah i can do that
And i don't have preference, i just looked for the cheapest i could find

Out of curiosity, what size monitor do/will you use on this comp?

22"

And I really hope the reference to a third gpu was a joke!!

I dunno really, figured a third might come in handy after a while when new games come out and such

[Shadowness]

For a 22" screen, SLI 8800GTX's are overkill. You can buy a decent(ish) PC for the price of those two cards!
If you've got the money, then by all means go ahead but I personally think it will be a waste of money.

As I said earlier, I use a 24" and I can run modern games at full 1920x1200 res with hight settings without a problem. Its only when you turn on the fancy stuff like 16x AA etc when you see the is struggling a little bit (and I'll make this clear that 16xAA over 4xAA isnt that different!)

I would think very carefully about it, read some reviews about SLI, and see if there is that much of a difference.

[fareway]

Originally Posted by Shadowness

For a 22" screen, SLI 8800GTX's are overkill. You can buy a decent(ish) PC for the price of those two cards!
If you've got the money, then by all means go ahead but I personally think it will be a waste of money.

As I said earlier, I use a 24" and I can run modern games at full 1920x1200 res with hight settings without a problem. Its only when you turn on the fancy stuff like 16x AA etc when you see the is struggling a little bit (and I'll make this clear that 16xAA over 4xAA isnt that different!)

I would think very carefully about it, read some reviews about SLI, and see if there is that much of a difference.

Well the 8800 is pretty much the only thing i know for a fact i want, with it being the only card that does dx10 and all that
And it's just 1 for now, a second is definitly a few months away




And how is this for a PSU? http://www.mnm-computers.nl/product_...oducts_id=8823

[fareway]

Alright change some parts:

case (water cooling for overclocking obviousy)
CPU (hasn't changed)
GPU (upgraded the GTX to an ultra)
RAM (4 of those obviously)
MOBO (yes it's still SLI, and no i no longer plan on getting a second GPU but appearantly these SLI boards have a chipset that's uber or something, like i said, i know fuck all about these things)

Rest still the same, CD, DVD, card reader, vista 64bit, 400GB HD


So once again the question is, what PSU does this thing need?
Keep in mind there isn't gonna be a second GPU, maybe only a second HD at some point (although that's far from certain)

[eddysdaman]

Ok, hopes this helps

I'm running in a Thermaltake mambo case a E6600, 8800gtx, 2gb 800mhz, 500gb, 2 x 74gb 10k Raptors, 20"lcd, Audigy 4 platinum and all this is off 650w no probs. I've been told that to run 2 x 8800gtx you need minimum 750w just for the cards, so when I put a second 8800 in to form SLi I'll be running a 1.1kw PSU for the full setup. I'd also be upgrading to a decent cooling system when I overclock the cpu and for the gpu's (do you plan on doing so?) So you know, the GTX runs at about 72C idling, the Ultra is meant to be much better, but seriously in a small room you won't need a heater for the winter.

[awdrifter]

Get an factory oc'd GTX if you want, but don't waste money on the Ultra. As for PSU, anythink with 750w or more should be able to power you system. This one has pretty good reviews. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256006

[fareway]

Originally Posted by eddysdaman

Ok, hopes this helps

I'm running in a Thermaltake mambo case a E6600, 8800gtx, 2gb 800mhz, 500gb, 2 x 74gb 10k Raptors, 20"lcd, Audigy 4 platinum and all this is off 650w no probs. I've been told that to run 2 x 8800gtx you need minimum 750w just for the cards, so when I put a second 8800 in to form SLi I'll be running a 1.1kw PSU for the full setup. I'd also be upgrading to a decent cooling system when I overclock the cpu and for the gpu's (do you plan on doing so?) So you know, the GTX runs at about 72C idling, the Ultra is meant to be much better, but seriously in a small room you won't need a heater for the winter.

Well, i do plan on overclocking the CPU, hence the case with watercooling :p
Not so sure about the GPU though, maybe, maybe not

Get an factory oc'd GTX if you want, but don't waste money on the Ultra

http://www.pimspcshop.nl/page.htm?de...68+MB+PCI%2DE& <--- you mean like that one?

[Jacobfox]

evga superclocked gtx...i know people are being anti sli for 8800s here but i have to tell you, you'll be thanking yourself if you do sli when crysis comes out.

[fareway]

http://www.pimspcshop.nl/page.htm?de...68+MB+PCI%2DE& you mean one like that?
Seems to me the asus is slightly better..... of course that could just be me being an idiot

[awdrifter]

No, that one is only reference clocked card (575mhz). Now I know you're not in the US, but this is just an example.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814186021

This card has been factory oc'd to 630mhz, so it's slightly faster than a reference clocked ultra, but it's $200 cheaper than the Ultra. Now I'm not sure if the price difference is that big in Europe, but it's worth looking into.

[Top Gear EVO]

Here is my version:

Same processor
Mobo
2 set of these Ram
Graphic Card for the warranty and price,can oc yourself
Cooling for the sake of starting and simpleness and is expandable down the road
HDD Raptor or else it is a waste of quad core oc
PSU
Casing Simple and nice
DVD RW

[Jacobfox]

p 35 is benching consistently slower than a 680 board. no f'ing way in other words. As for the hard drives, raptors are nice, but that line about it being pointless to have a quad core without one is rubbish. Most of the OC'd cards are binned to overclock and if you oc an XFX card, you void the warranty. if you want to watercool it, I'd go with a corsair nautilus. It's stupidly easy to set up and it's very effective.

[awdrifter]

Technically you void the warranty when you oc the card, but as long as you don't physically mod it, it's hard for them to prove it. Anyways, if you don't want the risk, the factory oc should be enough.

[fareway]

Originally Posted by awdrifter

No, that one is only reference clocked card (575mhz). Now I know you're not in the US, but this is just an example.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814186021

This card has been factory oc'd to 630mhz, so it's slightly faster than a reference clocked ultra, but it's $200 cheaper than the Ultra. Now I'm not sure if the price difference is that big in Europe, but it's worth looking into.

http://www.pimspcshop.nl/page.htm?de...C+PCI+Express& <-- so that's one, right?

[Jacobfox]

close enough