Good alternative to iPod

Roadster44 · July 5th, 2009, 10:22 PM

Samsung P3
Cowon S9
Sony X-Series

Or is iPod Touch best route to go?

Jacobfox · July 5th, 2009, 10:25 PM

iPod touch is a good way to go. If you're vehemently anti-iPod, then maybe a zune HD if the reviews are good.

captain_70s · July 5th, 2009, 10:39 PM

Bah, touch. images/smilies/dry.gif

I'll keep my 80GB Classic ta', gets the job done perfectly. images/smilies/tongue.gif

I mean, why bother having a touch screen when all you want to do is listen to music... I've used an iPod Touch and it was very impressive. But no easier to use than my Classic really.

Although I guess people want the extra features... which you could have and more on a phone... although really a phone should be for making calls not reading the internet... thats what a net book is for... although a laptop would do the same job really... Bwwwaahhh, modern technology baffles me!!! images/smilies/blink.gif

jeffy777 · July 5th, 2009, 10:43 PM

If all you want is music, then there's no need for a Touch. However, if you want web browsing, email, youtube, and 50,000+ apps then a Touch is a great investment. I use mine so much I couldn't possibly imagine living without it any more images/smilies/biggrin.gif

ahpadt · July 5th, 2009, 10:57 PM

Iphone?

*runs*

In all seriousness: I think its just itunes that people dont like. The player itself is fine.

Speedtouch · July 5th, 2009, 11:22 PM

^ And I don't understand the dislike of iTunes. It's simple, pretty and does everything I want it to, plus more which I don't use. What's there not to like?

As for the OP's question - I have a 5th gen iPod, and it plays music just as well as a Touch, or any new/old iPod. The thing you get with an iPod is simplicity. A Touch is very useful and nice to use. The interface is indeed second to none, but if you are never going to use all the features or need a larger screen for videos (I think the Touch's screen is just big enough for videos, but don't bother with a classic), then just get a classic.

As for the simplicity: every time I've used another player, I just get confused. But the first time I picked up an iPod I knew exactly what I was doing.

Sorry to be of absolutely no use as to giving a best non-apple MP3 player, but I once hated them, then I bought one, and now I love them.

darkshark0159 · July 6th, 2009, 2:42 AM

It's good to see the Apple haters haven't found this thread yet. images/smilies/tongue.gif

The iPod touch is really fantastic. When I bought one, I was a bit concerned that it would just be some novelty that would quickly wear off, but it is really fantastic and useful. It is a lot like buying a small netbook. It does everything; games, internet, email, social networking, taking files on the go (PDF reader built in!), etc. plus it is a highly intuitive music/multimedia player. You can't go wrong with one.

Topgearfanatic · July 6th, 2009, 3:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkshark0159

It's good to see the Apple haters haven't found this thread yet. images/smilies/tongue.gif

The iPod touch is really fantastic. When I bought one, I was a bit concerned that it would just be some novelty that would quickly wear off, but it is really fantastic and useful. It is a lot like buying a small netbook. It does everything; games, internet, email, social networking, taking files on the go (PDF reader built in!), etc. plus it is a highly intuitive music/multimedia player. You can't go wrong with one.

This. I really love my touch, I'm always playing with some cool app and never grow tired of the novelty of the touching and sliding and tapping.

Wizegui · July 6th, 2009, 3:08 AM

I think the problem with iTunes was that it got rather sluggish, due to some added features. I think starting with 8.1 or so, they've fixed that problem. Other than that, i really depends on what your priorities are. In terms of web browsing and light gaming, the iPod Touch is ahrd to beat. Never really did used to care for Apple products, but the iPod Touch totally won me over. I absolutely love it and use it everyday ever since the day I've bought it.

73GMCSprint · July 6th, 2009, 3:23 AM

iPod vs. alternatives? It depends on what you're looking for in a player. Just music playback, or video too? Internet capability? Capacity? Physical size?

Give us some more details on what you want and then we can help you better.

If you're looking for a modest capacity, do-everything-with-one-device kind of thing just buy the Touch and be done with it. If you're looking for something smaller (4-8 GB) I'd suggest comparing a Nano with something from Sandisk or Creative. If you're thinking about a Shuffle (why?) get a Sansa Clip. Also, if FM radio is a must, anything iPod is right out (and many others for that matter).

I used to be an iPod hater, but after having won an older one in a contest and having some experience with newer ones, they are a very capable player. That said, there are many other excellent players out there. Do some research and, if possible, try a few out before you buy.

darkshark0159 · July 6th, 2009, 3:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 73GMCSprint

if FM radio is a must, anything iPod is right out

Not true. The touch is out, but Apple sells that FM radio remote thing for standard iPods.

nsx_23 · July 6th, 2009, 3:45 AM

Cowon D2 or iAudio 7 are excellent alternatives.

Or you could try and scout for something that can run rockbox.

jeffy777 · July 6th, 2009, 4:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizegui

Never really did used to care for Apple products, but the iPod Touch totally won me over. I absolutely love it and use it everyday ever since the day I've bought it.

Same here. I never really liked Apple stuff till I got the iPod Touch and fell in love with it. I think this is what Apple does best.

Nabster · July 6th, 2009, 4:47 AM

I'm very happy with my Beosound 6. Sound quality is excellent. I also love going a week without a charge.

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Roadster44 · July 6th, 2009, 5:34 PM

Don't care about web browsing - never too far from a computer, plus WiFi is not a blanket here like it is in say San Francisco. What is important to me is

1) Sound quality
2) Storage size
3) Flexibility as to which formats are supported i.e. FLAC
4) Battery life
5) Size
6) no artificial limitations
7) Not having to pay $10 for each upgrade of PC software.

smib · July 6th, 2009, 5:58 PM

Then what you want is the Sansa Fuze. Up to 8GB, MicroSD expansion up to an additional 32GB, FLAC support, top notch sound quality, small, inexpensive. It might be rockboxable, but I'm not sure. The only downside I've found for it is the use of a proprietary jack instead of a mini USB jack.

EDIT: If you're ok with used/refurbished, you might also want to look at the Creative Zen Vision:M. It's got a HDD in 30 and 60GB, but is pretty big and heavy.

Roadster44 · July 6th, 2009, 6:10 PM

Will I be able to plug into auxiliary output in a car (or are those iPod only?) Also are there any silly limitations to it?

Vette Boss · July 6th, 2009, 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadster44

Will I be able to plug into auxiliary output in a car (or are those iPod only?) Also are there any silly limitations to it?

Depends on the integration your car has, most of them only support iPod through the USB connection. Alternative is, if your car has an auxiliary input, plug a standard 3.5mm into the headphone jack and listen that way. You won't be able to use the radio controls, but it still works.

DanRoM · July 6th, 2009, 6:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadster44

Will I be able to plug into auxiliary output in a car (or are those iPod only?) Also are there any silly limitations to it?

Depends on the car...

Many cars have USB connections and/or simple audio input - those you can use with any decent players. Some car makers offer specialized iPod connectivity, but I don't know if that means other players can't be plugged in.

Ramseus · July 6th, 2009, 6:37 PM

Ipod touches are dumb and tiny, I need my 160 gig classic.

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Jacobfox Joined: May 24th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Sacramento, CA/Chicago, IL Age: 20 Posts: 3,119 Car: Audi S6, Armada, F430, BMW M3 Rep Power: 64	iPod touch is a good way to go. If you're vehemently anti-iPod, then maybe a zune HD if the reviews are good. __________________ 2007 Ferrari F430 (Rosso Rubino Micalizzato, Cuoio Interior, Carbon Upper Dash & wheel, Stradale Rims) Jake- Priest of the Prancing Horse, Archbishop of the four rings. Blaro, No Boss and Jacobfox- RickRolling since 1989.

July 5th, 2009, 10:39 PM	#3
captain_70s Joined: Aug 6th, 2008 Last Online: 1:13 AM Location: Scotland Age: 17 Posts: 452 Car: Nothing... yet Rep Power: 25	Bah, touch. I'll keep my 80GB Classic ta', gets the job done perfectly. I mean, why bother having a touch screen when all you want to do is listen to music... I've used an iPod Touch and it was very impressive. But no easier to use than my Classic really. Although I guess people want the extra features... which you could have and more on a phone... although really a phone should be for making calls not reading the internet... thats what a net book is for... although a laptop would do the same job really... Bwwwaahhh, modern technology baffles me!!! __________________

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jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 6:50 PM Location: US Age: 28 Posts: 6,261 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 86	If all you want is music, then there's no need for a Touch. However, if you want web browsing, email, youtube, and 50,000+ apps then a Touch is a great investment. I use mine so much I couldn't possibly imagine living without it any more __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

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Speedtouch Joined: Jul 30th, 2006 Last Online: 6:10 PM Location: Kent, England Age: 17 Posts: 4,078 Car: '99 Kangoo 1.4 (Parents) Rep Power: 85	^ And I don't understand the dislike of iTunes. It's simple, pretty and does everything I want it to, plus more which I don't use. What's there not to like? As for the OP's question - I have a 5th gen iPod, and it plays music just as well as a Touch, or any new/old iPod. The thing you get with an iPod is simplicity. A Touch is very useful and nice to use. The interface is indeed second to none, but if you are never going to use all the features or need a larger screen for videos (I think the Touch's screen is just big enough for videos, but don't bother with a classic), then just get a classic. As for the simplicity: every time I've used another player, I just get confused. But the first time I picked up an iPod I knew exactly what I was doing. Sorry to be of absolutely no use as to giving a best non-apple MP3 player, but I once hated them, then I bought one, and now I love them. __________________ ^My Flickr^

July 5th, 2009, 10:57 PM	#5
ahpadt Joined: May 7th, 2006 Last Online: November 5th, 2009 Location: The Norwaylands Posts: 4,505 Rep Power: 55	Iphone? runs In all seriousness: I think its just itunes that people dont like. The player itself is fine.

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darkshark0159 Joined: Dec 24th, 2007 Last Online: 8:38 AM Location: a snowy land Age: 18 Posts: 1,800 Car: Mercedes-Benz C240 W203 Rep Power: 77	It's good to see the Apple haters haven't found this thread yet. The iPod touch is really fantastic. When I bought one, I was a bit concerned that it would just be some novelty that would quickly wear off, but it is really fantastic and useful. It is a lot like buying a small netbook. It does everything; games, internet, email, social networking, taking files on the go (PDF reader built in!), etc. plus it is a highly intuitive music/multimedia player. You can't go wrong with one. __________________

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Wizegui Joined: May 3rd, 2006 Last Online: 2:46 AM Location: Richmond, BC Age: 18 Posts: 2,042 Car: 93 Toyota Tercel LFS Status: Rep Power: 31	I think the problem with iTunes was that it got rather sluggish, due to some added features. I think starting with 8.1 or so, they've fixed that problem. Other than that, i really depends on what your priorities are. In terms of web browsing and light gaming, the iPod Touch is ahrd to beat. Never really did used to care for Apple products, but the iPod Touch totally won me over. I absolutely love it and use it everyday ever since the day I've bought it. __________________ My 1993 Lexus IS 150... If you actually googled this up, then I've got some bad news for you...

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73GMCSprint Joined: Jun 20th, 2007 Last Online: 8:14 AM Location: Las Vegas Posts: 577 Car: 1973 GMC Sprint, Buick 455, TH400 Rep Power: 19	iPod vs. alternatives? It depends on what you're looking for in a player. Just music playback, or video too? Internet capability? Capacity? Physical size? Give us some more details on what you want and then we can help you better. If you're looking for a modest capacity, do-everything-with-one-device kind of thing just buy the Touch and be done with it. If you're looking for something smaller (4-8 GB) I'd suggest comparing a Nano with something from Sandisk or Creative. If you're thinking about a Shuffle (why?) get a Sansa Clip. Also, if FM radio is a must, anything iPod is right out (and many others for that matter). I used to be an iPod hater, but after having won an older one in a contest and having some experience with newer ones, they are a very capable player. That said, there are many other excellent players out there. Do some research and, if possible, try a few out before you buy. Last edited by 73GMCSprint; July 6th, 2009 at 3:24 AM.

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Roadster44 Joined: Jan 8th, 2004 Last Online: September 29th, 2009 Location: West Bloomfield, MI USA Posts: 199 Car: 2000 BMW 328i w/ sports pckg LFS Status: Rep Power: 25	Don't care about web browsing - never too far from a computer, plus WiFi is not a blanket here like it is in say San Francisco. What is important to me is 1) Sound quality 2) Storage size 3) Flexibility as to which formats are supported i.e. FLAC 4) Battery life 5) Size 6) no artificial limitations 7) Not having to pay $10 for each upgrade of PC software. __________________ Car for sale...Raver 8000, 5 speed engine, all usual impertinences, alloy windows, leather paint, metallic seats, primate control with aim conditioning, all dot coms. 22,00,00 highway smiles. $50

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Roadster44 Joined: Jan 8th, 2004 Last Online: September 29th, 2009 Location: West Bloomfield, MI USA Posts: 199 Car: 2000 BMW 328i w/ sports pckg LFS Status: Rep Power: 25	Will I be able to plug into auxiliary output in a car (or are those iPod only?) Also are there any silly limitations to it? __________________ Car for sale...Raver 8000, 5 speed engine, all usual impertinences, alloy windows, leather paint, metallic seats, primate control with aim conditioning, all dot coms. 22,00,00 highway smiles. $50

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