Good alternative to iPod - Page 2

smib · July 6th, 2009, 6:48 PM

If by silly limitations you mean soft/firmware implemented to lock down hardware, the answer is no. A said it will work with an aux. port, but may not work with a USB port built into the head unit, though it likely will. Also, most head units with a USB port can play directly off a flash drive, and the Sansa(as well as most others) players can be set to act as a normal storage device, so car stereo integration on some level shouldn't be an issue.

Roadster44 · July 6th, 2009, 10:29 PM

Brilliant...thanks to all of you for the advice.

nsx_23 · July 7th, 2009, 12:03 AM

Consider the Cowon D2. I've had mine for ages now, and its fantastic.

1) Excellent sound quality, even with high-end IEMs.
2) 16GB + Full size SD slot, so plenty of memory expansion. I have a 16GB Cowon D2 with an 8GB SD card for videos atm. Planning on getting a 32GB card soon.
3) Heaps of formats supported (e.g. I use mainly FLAC)
4) 50+ hours of battery life for music, and even video gets like 5-6 hours.
5) Very small size, so its easy to carry around
6) Rockbox is being ported to the D2 at the moment, so once that comes on steam you'll have even more thing to play around with.
7) Plenty of customization available already with themes, flash skins, flash games, etc: http://www.iaudiophile.net/index.php

Since you're in the US, this is the place to buy Cowon stuff: http://www.jetmall.net/

The D2+ is the updated version of the D2. They're basically identical aside from the D2+ receiving a much better looking lick of paint.

2Billion · July 7th, 2009, 12:28 AM

Can I hijack for a second and ask for something cheap with physical buttons, preferably something that uses a non-proprietary input? I lost my Creative Zen somehow.

nsx_23 · July 7th, 2009, 12:44 AM

iAudio 7? The Zen's are pretty buggy to use.

jeffy777 · July 7th, 2009, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsx_23

CSince you're in the US, this is the place to buy Cowon stuff: http://www.jetmall.net/

The D2+ is the updated version of the D2. They're basically identical aside from the D2+ receiving a much better looking lick of paint.

Newegg has it for $10 cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855228033

smib · July 7th, 2009, 1:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Billion

Can I hijack for a second and ask for something cheap with physical buttons, preferably something that uses a non-proprietary input? I lost my Creative Zen somehow.

First thing that comes to my mind is a Sansa Clip.(I fear I may be becoming a fanboy, better be careful) Same excellent sound wuality as the Fuze, but tiny and uses a mini-usb port. Useless for pics/videos. I'm gonna look into the D2 though, sounds neat.

EDIT: Just did a (very) little looking into the D2, and it's safe to say I will be pointing people in that direction in the future. I just want a good player with KLEER built in. Then I'd be a happy camper.

nsx_23 · July 7th, 2009, 1:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffy777

Newegg has it for $10 cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855228033

I'm not in the US, so I'm not familiar with prices images/smilies/tongue.gif

The Sansa clip is also very good. I have an 8GB one, and it sounds pretty good. Not as good as the D2 though.

Roadster44 · July 7th, 2009, 2:03 AM

Hey Smib, why D2+ and not S9?

jeffy777 · July 7th, 2009, 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsx_23

I'm not in the US, so I'm not familiar with prices images/smilies/tongue.gif

That's cool. I was just being helpful images/smilies/wink.gif

nsx_23 · July 7th, 2009, 2:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadster44

Hey Smib, why D2+ and not S9?

D2+ Has more tweaking options, rockbox is being ported over for it, and it has a full-size SD card slot, so it'll easily store more than the S9.

In case you haven't heard of the awesomeness that is rockbox: http://www.rockbox.org/

smib · July 7th, 2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadster44

Hey Smib, why D2+ and not S9?

I really meant more Cowon in general, it depends on what the person wants.

starfox07 · July 8th, 2009, 4:58 PM

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2Billion · July 10th, 2009, 1:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smib

First thing that comes to my mind is a Sansa Clip.(I fear I may be becoming a fanboy, better be careful) Same excellent sound wuality as the Fuze, but tiny and uses a mini-usb port. Useless for pics/videos. I'm gonna look into the D2 though, sounds neat.

I totally bought one! In 2GB flavor, since Wal Mart had them on sale for $30. I'd normally search for a bigger size, but $30!

nsx_23 · July 10th, 2009, 1:47 AM

^I got an 8GB one for $49 when they were on special. Had someone ship it over from the US for me since they don't sell the 8GB models here in Australia.

I still have my old 2GB that I use at the gym occasionally.

Wizegui · July 11th, 2009, 11:04 PM

What about the new Sony NWZ-X1000 OLED PMPs? From what I've heard, it's probably one of the best sounding PMPs on the market now. It costs the same as an iPod touch, but has an integrated noise canceling feature as well as one of the sharpest displays on the market. Having that said, I've also heard that the internet browser is not nearly as strong as the one on the iPod Touch. So at the end of the day, it really depends on what your priorities are.

smib · July 12th, 2009, 1:30 AM

That's pretty much exactly what I've heard. If I was in the market to spend that much money on a pmp, I'd wait to see what the Zune HD is like, and choose between them. But as I've said before, I will not spends lots of money on a pmp untill I can get a good one with Kleer built in.

Shawn · July 12th, 2009, 1:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedtouch

I don't understand the dislike of iTunes. It's simple, pretty and does everything I want it to, plus more which I don't use. What's there not to like?

Here is one: After all these years it still forces you to install QuickTime, which is of absolutely no use to anyone.

I never really had much of a problem with iTunes, but it's not the best piece of software out there. It can be sluggish at times even on fast machines, and I can't even remember how many times my library's been corrupted out of nowhere, forcing me to reload them all into iTunes.

Yeah, I'll shut up now since I have nothing outright useful to contribute to the thread.

Edit: It also still doesn't let you move music from your iPod to your PC... PC to iPod is well and good, but heaven forbid you need/want to do it the other way around!

smib · July 12th, 2009, 1:48 AM

I've only used iTunes a few times, and they've all been painful and aggravating. WMP and explorer have worked superbly.

As for my previous post, it's a lie. I want a Cowon S9, but with Kleer.

The_Finn · July 12th, 2009, 2:02 AM

This is more iTunes related than iPod related but is there any media management software out there that offers iTunes esque podcast support with subscriptions and such? Because the only thing keeping me from switching to Rockbox and some other software is my addiciton to podcasts

July 6th, 2009, 6:48 PM	#21
smib Joined: Aug 31st, 2007 Last Online: 2:19 AM Location: Bristol, Connecticut Age: 22 Posts: 2,201 Car: 2008 Scion tC LFS Status: Rep Power: 84	If by silly limitations you mean soft/firmware implemented to lock down hardware, the answer is no. A said it will work with an aux. port, but may not work with a USB port built into the head unit, though it likely will. Also, most head units with a USB port can play directly off a flash drive, and the Sansa(as well as most others) players can be set to act as a normal storage device, so car stereo integration on some level shouldn't be an issue. __________________ PunisherBass: ANYONE with an IQ higher than a jar of mayo wouldn't be able to get through the scientology mumbojumbo without laughing their ass off. Clegg: PunisherBass, quit insulting mayo. "Sorry for the short replies, I can't use my left hand. In fact the whole left side of my body feels like it got hit by a planet. The right side is better, it only got hit by a truck." -Blind_Io I am an audiosurf elite champion, motherfucker. I support Koenigseggggggsegggegggegigioabbavikingsaab. Do you?

July 6th, 2009, 10:29 PM	#22
Roadster44 Joined: Jan 8th, 2004 Last Online: September 29th, 2009 Location: West Bloomfield, MI USA Posts: 199 Car: 2000 BMW 328i w/ sports pckg LFS Status: Rep Power: 25	Brilliant...thanks to all of you for the advice. __________________ Car for sale...Raver 8000, 5 speed engine, all usual impertinences, alloy windows, leather paint, metallic seats, primate control with aim conditioning, all dot coms. 22,00,00 highway smiles. $50

July 7th, 2009, 12:03 AM	#23
nsx_23 Joined: May 9th, 2009 Last Online: 6:28 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,353 Car: 03 Toyota Echo 3DR Rep Power: 39	Consider the Cowon D2. I've had mine for ages now, and its fantastic. 1) Excellent sound quality, even with high-end IEMs. 2) 16GB + Full size SD slot, so plenty of memory expansion. I have a 16GB Cowon D2 with an 8GB SD card for videos atm. Planning on getting a 32GB card soon. 3) Heaps of formats supported (e.g. I use mainly FLAC) 4) 50+ hours of battery life for music, and even video gets like 5-6 hours. 5) Very small size, so its easy to carry around 6) Rockbox is being ported to the D2 at the moment, so once that comes on steam you'll have even more thing to play around with. 7) Plenty of customization available already with themes, flash skins, flash games, etc: http://www.iaudiophile.net/index.php Since you're in the US, this is the place to buy Cowon stuff: http://www.jetmall.net/ The D2+ is the updated version of the D2. They're basically identical aside from the D2+ receiving a much better looking lick of paint. __________________ "If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." -Ferdinand Porsche "If it can't be fixed with a hammer, then its an electrical problem" - FSAE Forums "Be quick, be quiet, and be on time." - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson 03 Toyota Echo (Yaris) 3dr hatch - 5-speed and 1.3L of fury!!! Last edited by nsx_23; July 7th, 2009 at 12:04 AM.

July 7th, 2009, 12:44 AM	#25
nsx_23 Joined: May 9th, 2009 Last Online: 6:28 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,353 Car: 03 Toyota Echo 3DR Rep Power: 39	iAudio 7? The Zen's are pretty buggy to use. __________________ "If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." -Ferdinand Porsche "If it can't be fixed with a hammer, then its an electrical problem" - FSAE Forums "Be quick, be quiet, and be on time." - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson 03 Toyota Echo (Yaris) 3dr hatch - 5-speed and 1.3L of fury!!!

July 7th, 2009, 2:03 AM	#29
Roadster44 Joined: Jan 8th, 2004 Last Online: September 29th, 2009 Location: West Bloomfield, MI USA Posts: 199 Car: 2000 BMW 328i w/ sports pckg LFS Status: Rep Power: 25	Hey Smib, why D2+ and not S9? __________________ Car for sale...Raver 8000, 5 speed engine, all usual impertinences, alloy windows, leather paint, metallic seats, primate control with aim conditioning, all dot coms. 22,00,00 highway smiles. $50 Last edited by Roadster44; July 7th, 2009 at 2:05 AM.

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2Billion Joined: Dec 7th, 2005 Last Online: 4:56 AM Age: 24 Posts: 1,050 Car: '10 Toyota Matrix XR Rep Power: 108	Can I hijack for a second and ask for something cheap with physical buttons, preferably something that uses a non-proprietary input? I lost my Creative Zen somehow.

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July 10th, 2009, 1:47 AM	#35
nsx_23 Joined: May 9th, 2009 Last Online: 6:28 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,353 Car: 03 Toyota Echo 3DR Rep Power: 39	^I got an 8GB one for $49 when they were on special. Had someone ship it over from the US for me since they don't sell the 8GB models here in Australia. I still have my old 2GB that I use at the gym occasionally. __________________ "If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." -Ferdinand Porsche "If it can't be fixed with a hammer, then its an electrical problem" - FSAE Forums "Be quick, be quiet, and be on time." - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson 03 Toyota Echo (Yaris) 3dr hatch - 5-speed and 1.3L of fury!!!

July 11th, 2009, 11:04 PM	#36
Wizegui Joined: May 3rd, 2006 Last Online: 7:49 AM Location: Richmond, BC Age: 18 Posts: 2,054 Car: 93 Toyota Tercel LFS Status: Rep Power: 31	What about the new Sony NWZ-X1000 OLED PMPs? From what I've heard, it's probably one of the best sounding PMPs on the market now. It costs the same as an iPod touch, but has an integrated noise canceling feature as well as one of the sharpest displays on the market. Having that said, I've also heard that the internet browser is not nearly as strong as the one on the iPod Touch. So at the end of the day, it really depends on what your priorities are. __________________ My 1993 Lexus IS 150... If you actually googled this up, then I've got some bad news for you...

July 12th, 2009, 1:30 AM	#37
smib Joined: Aug 31st, 2007 Last Online: 2:19 AM Location: Bristol, Connecticut Age: 22 Posts: 2,201 Car: 2008 Scion tC LFS Status: Rep Power: 84	That's pretty much exactly what I've heard. If I was in the market to spend that much money on a pmp, I'd wait to see what the Zune HD is like, and choose between them. But as I've said before, I will not spends lots of money on a pmp untill I can get a good one with Kleer built in. __________________ PunisherBass: ANYONE with an IQ higher than a jar of mayo wouldn't be able to get through the scientology mumbojumbo without laughing their ass off. Clegg: PunisherBass, quit insulting mayo. "Sorry for the short replies, I can't use my left hand. In fact the whole left side of my body feels like it got hit by a planet. The right side is better, it only got hit by a truck." -Blind_Io I am an audiosurf elite champion, motherfucker. I support Koenigseggggggsegggegggegigioabbavikingsaab. Do you?

July 12th, 2009, 1:48 AM	#39
smib Joined: Aug 31st, 2007 Last Online: 2:19 AM Location: Bristol, Connecticut Age: 22 Posts: 2,201 Car: 2008 Scion tC LFS Status: Rep Power: 84	I've only used iTunes a few times, and they've all been painful and aggravating. WMP and explorer have worked superbly. As for my previous post, it's a lie. I want a Cowon S9, but with Kleer. __________________ PunisherBass: ANYONE with an IQ higher than a jar of mayo wouldn't be able to get through the scientology mumbojumbo without laughing their ass off. Clegg: PunisherBass, quit insulting mayo. "Sorry for the short replies, I can't use my left hand. In fact the whole left side of my body feels like it got hit by a planet. The right side is better, it only got hit by a truck." -Blind_Io I am an audiosurf elite champion, motherfucker. I support Koenigseggggggsegggegggegigioabbavikingsaab. Do you?

July 12th, 2009, 2:02 AM	#40
The_Finn Joined: Feb 7th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Worcestersheshershire MA Age: 28 Posts: 3,415 Car: 1988 Mazda 323 GTX / 1997 Saab 900s Rep Power: 57	This is more iTunes related than iPod related but is there any media management software out there that offers iTunes esque podcast support with subscriptions and such? Because the only thing keeping me from switching to Rockbox and some other software is my addiciton to podcasts __________________ Proud owner of a 1988 mazda 323 GTX: The ~~poor~~ rich mans evo... "My laptop has a webcam; if I wanted to make money while making a mess, I'd be all over the internet. Hell, you'd probably have videos of me bookmarked." ~Klutch~ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” ~Ernest Hemingway~ It's all about having the right priorities. You can sleep in your car but you can't race your house -\|- Basically i go accurately and on special lines

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