iPhone vs. iPod Touch

Viper007Bond · October 25th, 2007, 12:08 PM

First off, let me point out to you that there is no third option in this poll saying "something else". It's simply an A or B question. Got it? images/smilies/smile.gif

If I had to get one for listening to music, which should it be?

iPhone

http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/

It'd be without an AT&T plan, i.e. no phone usage. Just Wifi + music + camera.

8GB space
2MP camera (the main reason to consider this)
Web features iPod possibly may not have

iPod Touch

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features.html

Basically, double the space (16GB). That's really important.

Summary

Worth having to deal with only 8GB of space in exchange for having the camera? What about hackability / web features? Like does the iPod have the cool Google Maps thing?

Input needed. images/smilies/happy.gif

jensked · October 25th, 2007, 12:13 PM

If you use the iPhone as MP3 player + camera, i doubt you'll have it with you all the time...and that diminishes the importance of the camera...

Better to have your cell phone equiped with a camera (you can get decent ones for a fraction of the iPhone price...) so you have that with you all the time and to have an MP3 player thats a GOOD MP3 player with you when you need it.

so: iPod Touch because it's a better MP3 player and the advantage of the camera doesn't really apply because you won't have it with you when you need to shoot something.

Derek · October 25th, 2007, 12:13 PM

If you need the extra space, there's no doubt, the Touch.

Viper007Bond · October 25th, 2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jensked

If you use the iPhone as MP3 player + camera, i doubt you'll have it with you all the time...and that diminishes the importance of the camera...

Better to have your cell phone equiped with a camera (you can get decent ones for a fraction of the iPhone price...) so you have that with you all the time and to have an MP3 player thats a GOOD MP3 player with you when you need it.

so: iPod Touch because it's a better MP3 player and the advantage of the camera doesn't really apply because you won't have it with you when you need to shoot something.

Well, who says I won't have it with me all the time? I don't have a cell phone (don't go anywhere often enough to warrant one) and I'd probably take this thing wherever I go so I can listen to music.

jensked · October 25th, 2007, 12:26 PM

^ So you want the iPhone? images/smilies/smile.gif

No, the question really is: do you want to sacrifice 8 Gb of music to a 2MP camera? And would you use the Camera that often, considering, as you say yourself, you "don't have a cell phone cause you don't go anywhere often enough"?

Maybe you can buy for the same money the iPod Touch + a better Camera for when you go somewhere.

On the other hand, you always wish you had your camera with you.

/me pulls his hair out!

upyourego · October 25th, 2007, 12:34 PM

I brought a bag and carry it with me everywhere.

That way I can have a still camera, video camera, mobile phone, ipod, nintendo ds and audio recorder and carry it all with me everywhere.

My answer - get a bag and buy an iPod Touch as well as a digital camera.

No mobile phone camera will be as good as a half decent digital camera that doesn't do anything else.

Viper007Bond · October 25th, 2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jensked

^ So you want the iPhone? images/smilies/smile.gif

I dunno.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jensked

No, the question really is: do you want to sacrifice 8 Gb of music to a 2MP camera?

Honestly? I think I'd rather...

Yeah, I'd rather have the more space and carry around a camera with me. For those rare cases where I'm not on vacation but just doing something else and only have the iWhatever, oh well. I've done fine until now.

Problem solved, woot! Thanks all. images/smilies/love.gif

Lilleput · October 25th, 2007, 12:43 PM

It's simple really, if you already have a phone go for the Touch, but as you dont have a phone get the iPhone (If you can live with the monthly payments)

Viper007Bond · October 25th, 2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilleput

(If you can live with the monthly payments)

I can't. It's an assload.

If I were to get an iPhone, it'd be off-network.

The_Finn · October 25th, 2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

I can't. It's an assload.

If I were to get an iPhone, it'd be off-network.

this statement alone makes it pretty obvious you should get the Touch

chilicoke · October 25th, 2007, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Worth having to deal with only 8GB of space in exchange for having the camera? What about hackability / web features? Like does the iPod have the cool Google Maps thing?

iPods once jailbroken, can run pretty much all apps from the iPhone. Official apps such Mail, Notes, Weather, Maps, and Stock can be installed (although the process is a little bit troublesome) with 100% functionality. Additionally there are TONS of 3rd party apps available once you update the installer, installing/uninstalling apps only takes a few button press.

It's all down to how much you value iPhone's camera, IMO what makes the iPhone special is the ability to go online through your service provider, it's VERY useful to checking directions/traffic while driving, and because of that, I am considering return my iPod for an iPhone when my current cellphone contract ends early next month.

Viper007Bond · October 26th, 2007, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilicoke

iPods once jailbroken, can run pretty much all apps from the iPhone. Official apps such Mail, Notes, Weather, Maps, and Stock can be installed (although the process is a little bit troublesome) with 100% functionality. Additionally there are TONS of 3rd party apps available once you update the installer, installing/uninstalling apps only takes a few button press.

Excellent, that seals the deal.

The camera would be nice, but I'll just carry around a camera instead and get more music.

cvrefugee · October 26th, 2007, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chilicoke

iIMO what makes the iPhone special is the ability to go online through your service provider, it's VERY useful to checking directions/traffic while driving, and because of that, I am considering return my iPod for an iPhone when my current cellphone contract ends early next month.

It's too bad the AT&T data network sucks ass right now. You're better off finding a wi-fi hotspot than waiting for the craptacular EDGE network to do its thing.

hokiethang · October 26th, 2007, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cvrefugee

It's too bad the AT&T data network sucks ass right now. You're better off finding a wi-fi hotspot than waiting for the craptacular EDGE network to do its thing.

I'm actually impressed with edge speeds in the DC area. It's VERY location dependent though. I've noticed good EDGE speeds in Silicon Valley and DC, but other markets like Las Vegas aren't as good. I know other networks are faster, but I have no complaints.

I love my iPhone but I have cell phone service with AT&T. I'd say though if you aren't interested in getting the phone/data service, the touch is probably the better choice.

cvrefugee · October 26th, 2007, 05:32 AM

EDGE may seem fast to you if you've never used EVDO from Sprint or Verizon. Imagine the iPhone with those speeds, especially Rev. A.

The Chad · October 27th, 2007, 06:16 AM

Viper,

If you aren't going to use a cellular network at all, there's no point in getting a phone. Some hacking will be required to even get the phone out of it's activation mode. The touch works just fine, can be jailbroken and 3rd party apps installed.

That being said, the iPhone is rumored to have a better display, and there are some display problems that plagued week 36 and week 37 production touches. Not sure if the issue is fixed, but I had to return mine because of it.

Other negatives to the touch is that is uses the polished back like the older iPods and scratches easy, and the iPhone does not have that backing. A case or sleeve is a must for the touch.

On the plus side, I think 16gigs is the sweet spot for personal data storage. That should cover most, if not all of your music, plus room for movie storage. If not, Smart Playlists are extremely useful (I've only recently discovered their usefulness).

Get the touch.

Shawn · October 27th, 2007, 11:21 AM

The camera is still just a cell phone camera... if you're not in need of a cell phone there's no point getting an iPhone.

Viper007Bond · October 27th, 2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn

The camera is still just a cell phone camera... if you're not in need of a cell phone there's no point getting an iPhone.

2MP though, but yeah.

October 25th, 2007, 12:08 PM	#1
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,086 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 237	iPhone vs. iPod Touch First off, let me point out to you that there is no third option in this poll saying "something else". It's simply an A or B question. Got it? If I had to get one for listening to music, which should it be? iPhone http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/ It'd be without an AT&T plan, i.e. no phone usage. Just Wifi + music + camera. 8GB space 2MP camera (the main reason to consider this) Web features iPod possibly may not have iPod Touch http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features.html Basically, double the space (16GB). That's really important. Summary Worth having to deal with only 8GB of space in exchange for having the camera? What about hackability / web features? Like does the iPod have the cool Google Maps thing? Input needed. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005 Last edited by Viper007Bond; October 25th, 2007 at 12:36 PM..

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jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 4,007 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 43	^ So you want the iPhone? No, the question really is: do you want to sacrifice 8 Gb of music to a 2MP camera? And would you use the Camera that often, considering, as you say yourself, you "don't have a cell phone cause you don't go anywhere often enough"? Maybe you can buy for the same money the iPod Touch + a better Camera for when you go somewhere. On the other hand, you always wish you had your camera with you. /me pulls his hair out! Last edited by jensked; October 25th, 2007 at 12:30 PM..

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upyourego VIP Joined: Nov 12th, 2006 Last Online: 12:39 AM Location: Jersey, Channel Islands, UK Age: 27 Posts: 1,071 Car: Never learnt to drive Rep Power: 35	I brought a bag and carry it with me everywhere. That way I can have a still camera, video camera, mobile phone, ipod, nintendo ds and audio recorder and carry it all with me everywhere. My answer - get a bag and buy an iPod Touch as well as a digital camera. No mobile phone camera will be as good as a half decent digital camera that doesn't do anything else. __________________ --------- Ryan Morrison howtobeageek.net

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Lilleput Evo-less Joined: Jun 10th, 2005 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: United Kingdom of Denmark Age: 25 Posts: 2,982 Car: Ford S-Max Titanium - 268hp Rep Power: 71	It's simple really, if you already have a phone go for the Touch, but as you dont have a phone get the iPhone (If you can live with the monthly payments) __________________

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October 26th, 2007, 05:32 AM	#15
cvrefugee Joined: Aug 16th, 2004 Last Online: 02:15 AM Location: Corona, CA Age: 28 Posts: 3,450 Car: 2005 Scion xB Rep Power: 60	EDGE may seem fast to you if you've never used EVDO from Sprint or Verizon. Imagine the iPhone with those speeds, especially Rev. A.

October 27th, 2007, 06:16 AM	#16
The Chad Joined: Feb 22nd, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Northwest Ohio Age: 25 Posts: 503 Rep Power: 21	Viper, If you aren't going to use a cellular network at all, there's no point in getting a phone. Some hacking will be required to even get the phone out of it's activation mode. The touch works just fine, can be jailbroken and 3rd party apps installed. That being said, the iPhone is rumored to have a better display, and there are some display problems that plagued week 36 and week 37 production touches. Not sure if the issue is fixed, but I had to return mine because of it. Other negatives to the touch is that is uses the polished back like the older iPods and scratches easy, and the iPhone does not have that backing. A case or sleeve is a must for the touch. On the plus side, I think 16gigs is the sweet spot for personal data storage. That should cover most, if not all of your music, plus room for movie storage. If not, Smart Playlists are extremely useful (I've only recently discovered their usefulness). Get the touch. __________________ Computer: 2.4GHz MacBook Pro, 4GB RAM Drobo: 1.7TB Usable iPod: 32GB iPod touch, 2nd Generation "- ... But don't dawdle. Get the car into top gear as quickly as is reasonable. Fifth gear, remember, is no good at all." -- Jeremy Clarkson

October 27th, 2007, 11:21 AM	#17
Shawn Lexus? Oh shi- Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: 01:51 AM Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,775 Car: IS250 RWD Rep Power: 93	The camera is still just a cell phone camera... if you're not in need of a cell phone there's no point getting an iPhone.