ISP Problem

MadCow809 · September 17th, 2007, 10:38 PM

Anyone here received a letter or any kind of warning from their ISP before?

i got a letter this morning, from my ISP (charter) stating that ive been downloading movies & mp3 and what not.. They rate if i dont stop downloading, or delete the stuff on my computer, they are gonna terminate my account.

What fucking bullshit, internet is made for downloading, i didnt get a 5mb connection to sit and surf the net. I got it so i can download stuff.

Anyone got some clever ideas to share? such as programs that can block IP etc.

Thanks in advance

Viper007Bond · September 17th, 2007, 10:48 PM

It's likely that they just detected high bandwidth usage.

A few solutions:

stop downloading so much
switch ISPs
force encrypt all of your BitTorrent packets
use a non-default BT port

cvrefugee · September 17th, 2007, 10:55 PM

I've been with AT&T (formerly SBC) for over four years and I haven't received a single threatening letter. Cable companies FTL!

Hidden_Hunter · September 17th, 2007, 11:20 PM

Don't download the really popular stuff straight away, grab it off irc instead (or usenet if you want to pay a monthly fee)

Viper007Bond · September 17th, 2007, 11:30 PM

@ IRC. That's SO slow. images/smilies/tongue.gif

epp_b · September 17th, 2007, 11:45 PM

Change ISPs. Whoever you're using is scum and shill for the entertainment industry (who are even greater scum).

MadCow809 · September 18th, 2007, 1:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epp_b

Change ISPs. Whoever you're using is scum and shill for the entertainment industry (who are even greater scum).

Charter, they are knobs i know : (

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hidden_Hunter

Don't download the really popular stuff straight away, grab it off irc instead (or usenet if you want to pay a monthly fee)

Im not, i dled a movie that was made in 1978.. thats not popular at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

It's likely that they just detected high bandwidth usage.

A few solutions:

stop downloading so much
switch ISPs
force encrypt all of your BitTorrent packets
use a non-default BT port

1)Im not downloading that much
2)I cant, my family is using charter to watch cable TV as well
3)How do you do that? tick the encryption box for utorrent? Ive already done that
4)Im running a random port everytime i start BT

thx for the advise, any other solutions?? such as using some VPN program or some kind to block/change the IP

Zuhaib · September 18th, 2007, 2:14 AM

Go DSL. A lot of DSL ISP's dont really care yet about download limits and etc because they dont have to deal with the bandwidth sharing issue. Now this might all change but i have not heard many DSL people complaining.

You best option is changing ISP.

MadCow809 · September 18th, 2007, 2:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuhaib

Go DSL. A lot of DSL ISP's dont really care yet about download limits and etc because they dont have to deal with the bandwidth sharing issue. Now this might all change but i have not heard many DSL people complaining.

You best option is changing ISP.

Charter is not complaining about my download limit, they are bitching about what im downloading, e.g movies/mp3/tv shows etc... basically... stuff that u are not suppose to be downloading : (

Red_Bull · September 18th, 2007, 3:00 AM

Not sure if Peer Guardian would do the trick?

MadCow809 · September 18th, 2007, 5:32 AM

dled it from the net...

any tips on how to use it?

- update : the program says that IPs are block, and i can see the IPs being listed (p2p IPs). Lets just hope the program works....

i dont want pigs to be knocking on my door.

cvrefugee · September 18th, 2007, 7:49 AM

Cable seriously sucks in the U.S., all they ever do is raise prices and throttle your internet (torrents are evil, right Comcast?). You should really have DSL as your ISP and satellite for TV, probably cheaper too.

jeffy777 · September 18th, 2007, 9:15 AM

I'm thankful Comcast hasn't throttled my BT yet, but it's probably only a matter of time.

Shadowness · September 18th, 2007, 10:06 AM

Be careful, I've had two warnings from two seperate ISP's. The first one was because of me, I was downloading movies. The second one was my fucking retarded sister who decided to download a copy of Saw III, I got an 'warning' email telling me to stop! Which I have!

Paco · September 18th, 2007, 2:57 PM

Might want to be a little more trepid with the whole illegal downloading.
This article can help.

While your 5mb connection (which is absolute crap compared to the rest of the world, thank you america) is meant for downloading (well, not if comcast has anything to say about it) you still can't download "illegal" media.

It seems odd that your ISP would threaten termination of your account for downloading illegal media. Normally they wouldn't care until contacted by the copyright owners (or pigs claiming to represent the owners).

Peerguardian2 is a step in the right direction, you will want to learn how to spot real and fake torrents, as well as getting those torrents from a reputable source (e.g. one that isn't currently being investigated by pigs).

The myopic, ignorant masses still consider piracy a crime, so watch your back on the high seas.

Shadowness · September 18th, 2007, 3:14 PM

Yeh, PG2 is good, expect its not fully supported on vista yet, I think there's a pre-release beta out though

Paco · September 18th, 2007, 3:24 PM

The current full release of pg2 kinda works on vista, meaning it doesn't block everything correctly and has a penchant for locking up and crashing.

They have a release candidate but there is no guarantee that it will work either.

I blame M$ for coding Vista so terribly. It truly is the new ME...

kekekeke · September 18th, 2007, 6:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

@ IRC. That's SO slow. images/smilies/tongue.gif

I would disagree with you there. There are plenty of amazing fast xdcc bots around.

MadCow809 · September 18th, 2007, 7:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kekekeke

I would disagree with you there. There are plenty of amazing fast xdcc bots around.

so wat? its allright to get stuff from mirc?? i used to be on mirc quite often, but that was a while ago.

october · September 18th, 2007, 8:05 PM

Hi,
I don't use Vista yet. I tried it & got pissed off. Most of the stuff I have doesn't work on Vista. Maybe it'll get better then I may use it day to day....

Anyways PG2 is the way to go to help protect you. DO NOT GO COMMANDO!

I got an email allegedly from the RIAA, I don't remember when as I deleted is as spam, but I've been using PG2 since. You'd be amazed what IP ranges are being blocked by PG2... images/smilies/blink.gif

Any questions?

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Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 5:41 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,275 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	It's likely that they just detected high bandwidth usage. A few solutions: stop downloading so much switch ISPs force encrypt all of your BitTorrent packets use a non-default BT port __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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Hidden_Hunter D: Joined: Oct 7th, 2006 Last Online: 6:06 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 5,781 Car: '08 Honda Accord Euro Rep Power: 76	Don't download the really popular stuff straight away, grab it off irc instead (or usenet if you want to pay a monthly fee) __________________ My car is dark grey not black!

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Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 5:41 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,275 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	@ IRC. That's SO slow. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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cvrefugee Joined: Aug 16th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Corona, CA Age: 29 Posts: 3,761 Car: 2005 Scion xB Rep Power: 86	I've been with AT&T (formerly SBC) for over four years and I haven't received a single threatening letter. Cable companies FTL!

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epp_b Unexperienced lover. Joined: Jun 23rd, 2006 Last Online: 5:48 AM Location: Canadaland :) Posts: 7,425 Car: 1995 Nissan 240SX Rep Power: 144	Change ISPs. Whoever you're using is scum and shill for the entertainment industry (who are even greater scum).

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MadCow809 Joined: Feb 23rd, 2006 Last Online: 6:14 AM Location: Durban, South Africa & Los Angeles, CA Age: 24 Posts: 5,055 Car: 2007 E87 BMW 130i & 2008 VW MKV GTI 2.0T DSG LFS Status: Rep Power: 71	dled it from the net... any tips on how to use it? - update : the program says that IPs are block, and i can see the IPs being listed (p2p IPs). Lets just hope the program works.... i dont want pigs to be knocking on my door. __________________ Supporting : Kimi Räikkönen \| Jenson Button \| Robert Kubica \| Sebastian Vettel \| Petter Solberg \| Mikko Hirvonen \| Andy Priaulx \| Jason Plato \| Mat Jackson Nokia N95 8Gb Nokia N97 32Gb RM-505 Unlocked v11.0.21 -> v12.0.024 -> v20.0.019 09 VW MKV Golf GTI 2.0T DSG \| APR Stage 1 \| LHD 08 Honda Civic Coupé \| LHD 06 BMW 130i \| RHD ~~05 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS \| RHD~~ 05 Ford Bantam 1.3i \| RHD ~~95 Mercedes Benz E320 Sportline \| RHD~~ Last edited by MadCow809; September 18th, 2007 at 5:38 AM.

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cvrefugee Joined: Aug 16th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Corona, CA Age: 29 Posts: 3,761 Car: 2005 Scion xB Rep Power: 86	Cable seriously sucks in the U.S., all they ever do is raise prices and throttle your internet (torrents are evil, right Comcast?). You should really have DSL as your ISP and satellite for TV, probably cheaper too.

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Shadowness Joined: Jun 20th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Midlands, UK Age: 22 Posts: 1,093 Car: RenaultSport Clio 182FF Rep Power: 29	Be careful, I've had two warnings from two seperate ISP's. The first one was because of me, I was downloading movies. The second one was my fucking retarded sister who decided to download a copy of Saw III, I got an 'warning' email telling me to stop! Which I have! __________________ Photo gallery----> http://www.danfreemanphotography.com/

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Paco Joined: Jun 12th, 2007 Last Online: 5:43 AM Location: Pittsburgh, PA Age: 24 Posts: 430 Car: MKV VW R32 Rep Power: 24	Might want to be a little more trepid with the whole illegal downloading. This article can help. While your 5mb connection (which is absolute crap compared to the rest of the world, thank you america) is meant for downloading (well, not if comcast has anything to say about it) you still can't download "illegal" media. It seems odd that your ISP would threaten termination of your account for downloading illegal media. Normally they wouldn't care until contacted by the copyright owners (or pigs claiming to represent the owners). Peerguardian2 is a step in the right direction, you will want to learn how to spot real and fake torrents, as well as getting those torrents from a reputable source (e.g. one that isn't currently being investigated by pigs). The myopic, ignorant masses still consider piracy a crime, so watch your back on the high seas.

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Shadowness Joined: Jun 20th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Midlands, UK Age: 22 Posts: 1,093 Car: RenaultSport Clio 182FF Rep Power: 29	Yeh, PG2 is good, expect its not fully supported on vista yet, I think there's a pre-release beta out though __________________ Photo gallery----> http://www.danfreemanphotography.com/

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Paco Joined: Jun 12th, 2007 Last Online: 5:43 AM Location: Pittsburgh, PA Age: 24 Posts: 430 Car: MKV VW R32 Rep Power: 24	The current full release of pg2 kinda works on vista, meaning it doesn't block everything correctly and has a penchant for locking up and crashing. They have a release candidate but there is no guarantee that it will work either. I blame M$ for coding Vista so terribly. It truly is the new ME...

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october Joined: Sep 30th, 2006 Last Online: November 11th, 2009 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 193 Car: '06 Ford Focus TDCI 3DR Van Rep Power: 0	Hi, I don't use Vista yet. I tried it & got pissed off. Most of the stuff I have doesn't work on Vista. Maybe it'll get better then I may use it day to day.... Anyways PG2 is the way to go to help protect you. DO NOT GO COMMANDO! I got an email allegedly from the RIAA, I don't remember when as I deleted is as spam, but I've been using PG2 since. You'd be amazed what IP ranges are being blocked by PG2... Any questions? __________________ Regards, october __________________ "This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." - Sigmund Freud (speaking about the Irish)

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