Laptop is broke, again

Prost264 · September 3rd, 2007, 09:56 PM

Laptop was running like crap, since I recently completely restored it and didn't have anything on there worth keeping I thought I could use the system recovery disk and get it back to OEM spec. I put the disk in, it deleted all the data and once it started to write the stuff back on it gave me an error message and that I must restart my computer and try again. I did that, same error message. Restarted again and now nothing happens, just a blank screen that says NTLDR Missing Press ctrl alt delte to restart

I looked around a bit and found that it has something to do with the BIOS. I got the updated BIOS from Toshiba, burned it to a cd, and still nothing. Is there a better way to go about this? (besides purchasing a new laptop images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

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cvrefugee · September 4th, 2007, 03:07 AM

It's trying to load Windows, but it can't, so you'll need to try to restore it once more. Do you have a restore disc or is there a hidden restore partition on the HDD?

Prost264 · September 4th, 2007, 03:44 AM

No I have the restore disc. But thats the problem, even with the disc it will not do anything, it just tells me NTLDR not found.

FATMOUSE · September 4th, 2007, 04:00 AM

See, this is why I hate restore discs vs. just straight up OEM windows.

See if you know anyone with a spare windows license with an install cd. Install windows like that. It is guaranteed to work, with the catch being that you must know someone with spare windows lying around.

Or you could buy a copy of it. Or go to the store who sold you the computer and tell them the restore disc is borked.

Prost264 · September 4th, 2007, 04:02 AM

I have a copy of Windows, also no worky. Same crap message.

epp_b · September 4th, 2007, 04:22 AM

I've had this problem before. If you can get the drive in an external enclosure connected to another PC, just copy the NLTDR file from another system to the root of the system partition on your hard drive.

Prost264 · September 4th, 2007, 04:27 AM

I was afraid that might be the way to fix it, I'm up at school now unless I can find someone up here to do it it'll have to wait until Thanksgiving images/smilies/lol.gif

epp_b · September 4th, 2007, 04:35 AM

Hmmm...you could boot to a Linux LiveCD that supports writing to NTFS, get the file from someone else's PC (networked, or on an external USB drive) and copy the file onto your hard drive.

Prost264 · September 4th, 2007, 04:39 AM

I tried putting the BIOS on my USB drive and I couldn't access it, is there a certain way to get into it?

FATMOUSE · September 4th, 2007, 05:54 AM

If your BIOS was at fault, you'd likely not be booting up at all.

What kind of Windows install disc do you have? What exactly happens when you start installing? Give more info images/smilies/tongue.gif

cvrefugee · September 4th, 2007, 10:28 AM

The laptop is trying to boot from the primary HDD, but since the boot sector/Windows installation is corrupted, it displays that message. You need to change the boot sequence so that the optical drive boots first. On some laptops, you'll need to change this either in the BIOS or press F10 upon bootup.

Prost264 · September 4th, 2007, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATMOUSE

If your BIOS was at fault, you'd likely not be booting up at all.

What kind of Windows install disc do you have? What exactly happens when you start installing? Give more info images/smilies/tongue.gif

Its XP Professional. I press the power button, the Toshiba screen pops up for a second then I get "NTLDR not found."

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvg

you'll need to change this either in the BIOS or press F10 upon bootup.

I'll have to try that.

September 3rd, 2007, 09:56 PM	#1
Prost264 Joined: Jun 30th, 2006 Last Online: 05:23 AM Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 2,247 Car: 1995 Subaru Legacy Rep Power: 30	Laptop is broke, again Laptop was running like crap, since I recently completely restored it and didn't have anything on there worth keeping I thought I could use the system recovery disk and get it back to OEM spec. I put the disk in, it deleted all the data and once it started to write the stuff back on it gave me an error message and that I must restart my computer and try again. I did that, same error message. Restarted again and now nothing happens, just a blank screen that says NTLDR Missing Press ctrl alt delte to restart I looked around a bit and found that it has something to do with the BIOS. I got the updated BIOS from Toshiba, burned it to a cd, and still nothing. Is there a better way to go about this? (besides purchasing a new laptop )

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September 4th, 2007, 03:07 AM	#2
cvrefugee Joined: Aug 16th, 2004 Last Online: 02:15 AM Location: Corona, CA Age: 28 Posts: 3,450 Car: 2005 Scion xB Rep Power: 60	It's trying to load Windows, but it can't, so you'll need to try to restore it once more. Do you have a restore disc or is there a hidden restore partition on the HDD?

September 4th, 2007, 03:44 AM	#3
Prost264 Joined: Jun 30th, 2006 Last Online: 05:23 AM Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 2,247 Car: 1995 Subaru Legacy Rep Power: 30	No I have the restore disc. But thats the problem, even with the disc it will not do anything, it just tells me NTLDR not found.

September 4th, 2007, 04:00 AM	#4
FATMOUSE Joined: Jun 30th, 2005 Last Online: 05:28 AM Location: NYC Posts: 3,090 Rep Power: 35	See, this is why I hate restore discs vs. just straight up OEM windows. See if you know anyone with a spare windows license with an install cd. Install windows like that. It is guaranteed to work, with the catch being that you must know someone with spare windows lying around. Or you could buy a copy of it. Or go to the store who sold you the computer and tell them the restore disc is borked.

September 4th, 2007, 04:02 AM	#5
Prost264 Joined: Jun 30th, 2006 Last Online: 05:23 AM Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 2,247 Car: 1995 Subaru Legacy Rep Power: 30	I have a copy of Windows, also no worky. Same crap message.

September 4th, 2007, 04:22 AM	#6
epp_b n00b of the year Joined: Jun 23rd, 2006 Last Online: 05:41 AM Location: Canadaland :) Posts: 4,907 Car: 1995 Nissan 240SX Rep Power: 45	I've had this problem before. If you can get the drive in an external enclosure connected to another PC, just copy the NLTDR file from another system to the root of the system partition on your hard drive.

September 4th, 2007, 04:27 AM	#7
Prost264 Joined: Jun 30th, 2006 Last Online: 05:23 AM Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 2,247 Car: 1995 Subaru Legacy Rep Power: 30	I was afraid that might be the way to fix it, I'm up at school now unless I can find someone up here to do it it'll have to wait until Thanksgiving

September 4th, 2007, 04:35 AM	#8
epp_b n00b of the year Joined: Jun 23rd, 2006 Last Online: 05:41 AM Location: Canadaland :) Posts: 4,907 Car: 1995 Nissan 240SX Rep Power: 45	Hmmm...you could boot to a Linux LiveCD that supports writing to NTFS, get the file from someone else's PC (networked, or on an external USB drive) and copy the file onto your hard drive.

September 4th, 2007, 04:39 AM	#9
Prost264 Joined: Jun 30th, 2006 Last Online: 05:23 AM Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 2,247 Car: 1995 Subaru Legacy Rep Power: 30	I tried putting the BIOS on my USB drive and I couldn't access it, is there a certain way to get into it?

September 4th, 2007, 05:54 AM	#10
FATMOUSE Joined: Jun 30th, 2005 Last Online: 05:28 AM Location: NYC Posts: 3,090 Rep Power: 35	If your BIOS was at fault, you'd likely not be booting up at all. What kind of Windows install disc do you have? What exactly happens when you start installing? Give more info

September 4th, 2007, 10:28 AM	#11
cvrefugee Joined: Aug 16th, 2004 Last Online: 02:15 AM Location: Corona, CA Age: 28 Posts: 3,450 Car: 2005 Scion xB Rep Power: 60	The laptop is trying to boot from the primary HDD, but since the boot sector/Windows installation is corrupted, it displays that message. You need to change the boot sequence so that the optical drive boots first. On some laptops, you'll need to change this either in the BIOS or press F10 upon bootup.

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