Making a backup copy/rip of your DVD - Page 2

NecroJoe · March 28th, 2007, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parvenu74

This may seem like a dumb or off-topic question, but if I live in the middle of the United States, how would I go about getting legal DVD of the Top Gear series, including the back catalog? I looked on Amazon.com's UK site and all they seem to be carrying are the "Best Of" DVD's. I want to get the everything from Season 1 up to date and I would like to do it legally if that's a possibility.

Unfortuantely, it doesn't exist.

Thraxes · August 23rd, 2007, 08:08 PM

Can add this to your guide, I actually prefer using this over Gordian-Knot because it is 100% multithreaded and incredibly fast on modern multicore CPUs: Handbrake (for Windows and Mac)

http://handbrake.m0k.org/
Tutorial & General Info: http://handbrake.m0k.org/trac/wiki
Requirements: Just Handbrake and a source (DVD or locally stored VOB files)...

Supports XVID and H264 video compression with subtitles, deinterlacing etc... . Audio can be two AC3, MP3 or AAC tracks. Container formats can be AVI, MKV and MP4.

It is very fast as I already mentioned. A 1:20 DVD takes about 45-50 minutes to encode in XVID with 2Pass and 2 MP3 audio tracks on a CoreDuo 2.16 laptop (average encode speed was 50FPS with peaks at 60FPS - fast enough?)

mads · January 5th, 2008, 08:04 PM

downloaded the software suggested here but i cant figure out what to do. Basicly i want to rip some of my dvds in x264 .mkv in full or 768x432/576x432 resolution and the best possible quality. i just started to get interested in this stuff and i know extremely little about how to, anyone know of good easy to read guides(ripping for dummies), or easy software?

Edit: Gotta love handbrake, works like a charm ones you read up a little on their website!

Viper007Bond · January 5th, 2008, 11:05 PM

I've heard good things about Handbrake, but I've yet to try it.

argatoga · January 5th, 2008, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

I've heard good things about Handbrake, but I've yet to try it.

I've used the mac version of Handbrake quite a bit, it is easy to use and does a good job.

wlmmn · February 19th, 2008, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvrefugee

Well, of course DVD Shrink reduces the quality, that's the point of the software. Even at 60% I've never received a complaint about the quality...most people can't tell when watching the DVD on their old-ass CRT.

But hang on a minute...another post said that DVD Shrink makes a 1:1 copy of a DVD. If there's quality loss, it's not exactly 1:1 is it?

How do you make a true, lossless 1:1 copy of a DVD?

cvrefugee · February 19th, 2008, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlmmn

How do you make a true, lossless 1:1 copy of a DVD?

Use dual-layer DVD+R discs.

Viper007Bond · February 19th, 2008, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvrefugee

Use dual-layer DVD+R discs.

Which requires a special burner and the discs are f'ing expensive.

Simply put, best to strip out previews, some menus, etc. and then lower the bitrate on the main movie until it fits.

IceBone · February 19th, 2008, 08:12 AM

Not to mention there are often plenty of secondary audio tracks, which you simply don't need. English 5.1 (and maybe sometimes stereo commentary) are all you need. Subtitles don't make much of a difference, but if you're 20 mbs or so short, it just might.

chilicoke · February 19th, 2008, 08:17 AM

There's no need for dual-layer DVD+Rs. Like Viper said, strip out everything except for the default audio track and subtitle. Make sure you enable both features in DVD Shrink's "Quality Settings" tab. (both settings will increase the overall back-up time, Ripping to HDD first would greatly speed things up)

Video quality stays top notch with both quality settings enabled, I have many movies that were compressed down to 68-70% quality, yet they still look great on my PS3 + 60" SXRD.

NecroJoe · February 20th, 2008, 02:01 AM

I picked up about 75 DL dvd's at Office Depot last week. $60 for 75. Not bad for DL, name-brand. I'll spend under-a-buck- to make a lossless perfect copy of a DVD. 80 cents-a-disc is as much as I've paid for CD's only a few years ago.

When copying onto a single layer DVD, I'll often times crank the quality slider all the way down to 50% on the menus and special features. If there are a lot of special features, it can give you a significantly higher quality on the main movie.

I have a in-mind flow-chart for making the decision on how to burn.

1) Can I get the Main movie % above 75 by lowering the quality of the features or menus?
Yes: Burn onto a single layer
No: Proceed to step 2.

2) Decide: Do I want the special features? Are they that good, or worth keeping?
No: Copy "Main Movie" only.
Yes: Copy on Dual Layer.

Movies who's only special features are Director Commentary, or "Sneak Preview Trailers" get stripped to the main movie. Rocky Horror Picture Show, however, gets burned onto dual....(say it...say it)...layered. (thank you)

Viper007Bond · February 20th, 2008, 02:18 AM

Honestly, I don't even deal with DVDs really anymore.

I mostly stick to 4.3GB (so it fits on a single layer DVD-R) 720p versions of a Blu-Ray rip. Much better quality, fits on a cheap DVD, etc. It'll only play on my PC, but I can deal with that.

cvrefugee · February 20th, 2008, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Simply put, best to strip out previews, some menus, etc. and then lower the bitrate on the main movie until it fits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceBone

Not to mention there are often plenty of secondary audio tracks, which you simply don't need. English 5.1 (and maybe sometimes stereo commentary) are all you need. Subtitles don't make much of a difference, but if you're 20 mbs or so short, it just might.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilicoke

There's no need for dual-layer DVD+Rs. Like Viper said, strip out everything except for the default audio track and subtitle. Make sure you enable both features in DVD Shrink's "Quality Settings" tab. (both settings will increase the overall back-up time, Ripping to HDD first would greatly speed things up)

Video quality stays top notch with both quality settings enabled, I have many movies that were compressed down to 68-70% quality, yet they still look great on my PS3 + 60" SXRD.

I agree with all of you, but he asked how to make 1:1 lossless copies. You need to use a dual-layer disc unless the movie is really old and was pressed on a single-layer disc.

db2450 · February 21st, 2008, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvrefugee

I agree with all of you, but he asked how to make 1:1 lossless copies. You need to use a dual-layer disc unless the movie is really old and was pressed on a single-layer disc.

The only closest thing to that would be to use something like DVD Rebuilder with CCE (Cinema Craft Encoder) and set it on 4-5 pass encoding. If you are on Vista, CCE doesn't work anymore, I tested with a trial.
I use Quenc with 10 passes images/smilies/tongue.gif

now and the only reason I would go back to DVD Shrink is to get encoding done faster.

avanti · March 12th, 2008, 04:50 PM

Can anyone recommend a good alternative to nero, I have used it for years without problems but now its giving me a hard time saying "illegal disk" and "could not perform start of disc at once". have tried to un/re install it.

db2450 · March 14th, 2008, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avanti

Can anyone recommend a good alternative to nero, I have used it for years without problems but now its giving me a hard time saying "illegal disk" and "could not perform start of disc at once". have tried to un/re install it.

It seems like you want a One-Click solution.
You could try one of DVD Fab's products: http://www.dvdfab.com/fab-compare.htm I reccomend Platinum, in case you ever want to Rip a DVD to a different format, like h264 or XviD.
Both do take a few minutes to get used to, but as long as you use the "Full Disc" tab, you should have no problems.

If you don't need a One-Click solution, I would reccomend DVD Decrypter and DVD-RB, with the QuEnc "2-pass. You will immediatly see the increase in quality from any one click solution, including Nero and DVDFab.

August 23rd, 2007, 08:08 PM	#22
Thraxes Joined: May 7th, 2006 Last Online: August 31st, 2008 Location: Wiesbaden, Germany Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Can add this to your guide, I actually prefer using this over Gordian-Knot because it is 100% multithreaded and incredibly fast on modern multicore CPUs: Handbrake (for Windows and Mac) http://handbrake.m0k.org/ Tutorial & General Info: http://handbrake.m0k.org/trac/wiki Requirements: Just Handbrake and a source (DVD or locally stored VOB files)... Supports XVID and H264 video compression with subtitles, deinterlacing etc... . Audio can be two AC3, MP3 or AAC tracks. Container formats can be AVI, MKV and MP4. It is very fast as I already mentioned. A 1:20 DVD takes about 45-50 minutes to encode in XVID with 2Pass and 2 MP3 audio tracks on a CoreDuo 2.16 laptop (average encode speed was 50FPS with peaks at 60FPS - fast enough?) __________________ Dark the other side is, yes dark it is. Dammit Yoda! Quit complaining and eat your toast already!

January 5th, 2008, 08:04 PM	#23
mads Joined: Mar 25th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Norway Posts: 95 Car: Saab 9-5 Aero Rep Power: 0	downloaded the software suggested here but i cant figure out what to do. Basicly i want to rip some of my dvds in x264 .mkv in full or 768x432/576x432 resolution and the best possible quality. i just started to get interested in this stuff and i know extremely little about how to, anyone know of good easy to read guides(ripping for dummies), or easy software? Edit: Gotta love handbrake, works like a charm ones you read up a little on their website! Last edited by mads; January 19th, 2008 at 11:18 PM.

January 5th, 2008, 11:05 PM	#24
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,732 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 230	I've heard good things about Handbrake, but I've yet to try it. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

February 19th, 2008, 08:12 AM	#29
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 12:16 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,299 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 61	Not to mention there are often plenty of secondary audio tracks, which you simply don't need. English 5.1 (and maybe sometimes stereo commentary) are all you need. Subtitles don't make much of a difference, but if you're 20 mbs or so short, it just might. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

February 19th, 2008, 08:17 AM	#30
chilicoke Previously Known As profingersk8er Joined: Dec 9th, 2004 Last Online: October 12th, 2008 Location: Irvine, CA USA Posts: 625 Car: '07 Honda S2000 Rep Power: 22	There's no need for dual-layer DVD+Rs. Like Viper said, strip out everything except for the default audio track and subtitle. Make sure you enable both features in DVD Shrink's "Quality Settings" tab. (both settings will increase the overall back-up time, Ripping to HDD first would greatly speed things up) Video quality stays top notch with both quality settings enabled, I have many movies that were compressed down to 68-70% quality, yet they still look great on my PS3 + 60" SXRD. __________________ Danger to manifold!

February 20th, 2008, 02:01 AM	#31
NecroJoe Joined: Apr 12th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: San Francisco area, CA, USA Age: 29 Posts: 1,476 Car: 2001 Mercury Cougar V6 Rep Power: 41	I picked up about 75 DL dvd's at Office Depot last week. $60 for 75. Not bad for DL, name-brand. I'll spend under-a-buck- to make a lossless perfect copy of a DVD. 80 cents-a-disc is as much as I've paid for CD's only a few years ago. When copying onto a single layer DVD, I'll often times crank the quality slider all the way down to 50% on the menus and special features. If there are a lot of special features, it can give you a significantly higher quality on the main movie. I have a in-mind flow-chart for making the decision on how to burn. 1) Can I get the Main movie % above 75 by lowering the quality of the features or menus? Yes: Burn onto a single layer No: Proceed to step 2. 2) Decide: Do I want the special features? Are they that good, or worth keeping? No: Copy "Main Movie" only. Yes: Copy on Dual Layer. Movies who's only special features are Director Commentary, or "Sneak Preview Trailers" get stripped to the main movie. Rocky Horror Picture Show, however, gets burned onto dual....(say it...say it)...layered. (thank you)

February 20th, 2008, 02:18 AM	#32
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,732 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 230	Honestly, I don't even deal with DVDs really anymore. I mostly stick to 4.3GB (so it fits on a single layer DVD-R) 720p versions of a Blu-Ray rip. Much better quality, fits on a cheap DVD, etc. It'll only play on my PC, but I can deal with that. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

March 12th, 2008, 04:50 PM	#35
avanti Joined: Jul 21st, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Milano, Italia Posts: 2,324 Car: 2 cars + 3 bikes Rep Power: 48	Can anyone recommend a good alternative to nero, I have used it for years without problems but now its giving me a hard time saying "illegal disk" and "could not perform start of disc at once". have tried to un/re install it. __________________ \|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\| Ride, Eat, Sleep, Repeat.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search