More Computer problems. Blue screen of death + more!

AxlxA · December 30th, 2005, 06:45 PM

Hi all.

I just upgraded my 1.3ghz athlon to a sempron64 3000+.

I think the motherboard is having problems. Here are the symptoms.

First installed the board + all my stuff onto it. Booted up. It post. When it tries to load windows(my old windows) it freezes at the windows logo and blue screens me.

So i reinstalled windows and it worked for a bit. Then during my software installations.. many of which requries a restart.. my winxp got the bsod again. I tried upping the ram voltage or lowering my ram speed to see if it'st he ram's fault. Sometimes as i boot up, it works fine. But some other times it doesnt work.

No overclocking at first but since i kept getting blue screens and i want the comptuer faster... i overclocked anyways. Now i can get into windows only randomly. Sometimes it blue screens, sometimes it doesn't.....

Everything is Prime95 stable. Could it be the mobo? the bios(latest)? or is it the harddrive?

ESPNSTI · December 30th, 2005, 06:59 PM

What does it say on the blue screens?

jensked · December 30th, 2005, 07:52 PM

Did you install the board right? I mean, there are supposed to be little rounds (don't know how you call em) between the motherboard and the case, where you put the screws.

AxlxA · December 30th, 2005, 08:58 PM

you mean the spacers? yes of coures they're right... i'm using an old case.

Blue screen says physical memory stuff.

The funny thing is... it only happens every now and then.. but not all the time.

My friend suggested it coudl be the video card's problem... since i see jittery stuff on the BIOS POST.

jeffy777 · December 30th, 2005, 10:02 PM

hmm...those are the same symptoms I got when my hard drive died. Are all your IDE cables tight?

SL65 · December 30th, 2005, 11:14 PM

What a mess.

It could be your video card. I actually know someone who was having somewhat similar problems and I'm pretty sure it turned out to be something with teh video card.

Go to the Run command and type "dxdiag.exe" and do a diagnostic test.

Hope that helps...way to bring in the new year eh.

AxlxA · December 31st, 2005, 09:48 PM

Okay not the video card.. just tried a different working video card and i got the same errors.

Next i'll have to try a new harddrive(old diff hdd i mean) to see if it's the HDD.

THe blue scren happens Right as winxp logo is loading winxp... the bar would move ont he bottom... then it woudl freeze. that is when i know it's gonna crash. it freezes then flash a blue screen for less than a second. then restarts and give me all garbled images of video card bios and mobo bios.

I can't even read what the blue screen is caused by.

ESPNSTI · December 31st, 2005, 10:00 PM

Don't forget the HDD cable. Try a different one, even if it visually looks ok.
Also try reducing the HDD speed (reduce the UDMA / PIO mode) in the BIOS and in Windows. (Or try a 40 conductor cable, which should automatically cause the speed to be reduced.)

Also make sure you have the "Automatically Restart" option unchecked in My Computer->Advanced->Startup and Recovery Settings, that way you should be able to read the blue screen.
(Perhaps that switch is on by default as part of a "let's pretend that didn't happen" Microsoft policy? images/smilies/wacko.gif

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AxlxA · January 2nd, 2006, 04:22 AM

okay first blue screen i encountered...
IRQL_Not_Less_Or_Equal

Second one i encountered....

win32k.sys error

Overall... it seems to be a memory problem... like something's up with teh ram. But the thing is... i treid new rams and i tried different slots..

jensked · January 2nd, 2006, 12:12 PM

maybe your motherboard is just faulty?

xecutioner · January 2nd, 2006, 12:44 PM

have u tried a xp repair or a system restore

dunno if that will work tho

could be ur mb like others have said

ranger_dood · January 2nd, 2006, 04:48 PM

You might've hit your mobo with some ESD when you changed out the processor.

hokiethang · January 2nd, 2006, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxlxA

okay first blue screen i encountered...
IRQL_Not_Less_Or_Equal

Second one i encountered....

win32k.sys error

Overall... it seems to be a memory problem... like something's up with teh ram. But the thing is... i treid new rams and i tried different slots..

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is usually a driver issue. I had a similar problem with my windows installation with my A64 machine, because the RAM wasn't matched to the motherboard. I'd check to make sure that the RAM you are using is the specific chips listed by the mobo manufacturer, (my Asus K8N had about 10 known good RAM chips that worked).

Nelis · January 2nd, 2006, 05:20 PM

sounds like a memory problem indeed, you should try some other ram...

AxlxA · January 3rd, 2006, 01:52 AM

tried 3 diff brands of ram.

I'm gonna RMA the mobo soon.. newegg says they wont take it back.

jensked · January 3rd, 2006, 02:08 PM

or maybe you can go to a computer store with it and let them figure it out.

bahnstormer · January 3rd, 2006, 03:32 PM

u installed a 64bit or 32bit version of windows?
lets start there

AxlxA · January 3rd, 2006, 04:46 PM

32bit

AxlxA · January 12th, 2006, 09:38 AM

Okay it's been a week or more. Problem still persists after using a new harddrive.

Definitely going to RMA this mobo... so new... yet so flawed.

jensked · January 12th, 2006, 09:44 AM

December 30th, 2005, 06:45 PM	#1
AxlxA Joined: Jan 3rd, 2005 Last Online: October 20th, 2008 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,534 Rep Power: 17	More Computer problems. Blue screen of death + more! Hi all. I just upgraded my 1.3ghz athlon to a sempron64 3000+. I think the motherboard is having problems. Here are the symptoms. First installed the board + all my stuff onto it. Booted up. It post. When it tries to load windows(my old windows) it freezes at the windows logo and blue screens me. So i reinstalled windows and it worked for a bit. Then during my software installations.. many of which requries a restart.. my winxp got the bsod again. I tried upping the ram voltage or lowering my ram speed to see if it'st he ram's fault. Sometimes as i boot up, it works fine. But some other times it doesnt work. No overclocking at first but since i kept getting blue screens and i want the comptuer faster... i overclocked anyways. Now i can get into windows only randomly. Sometimes it blue screens, sometimes it doesn't..... Everything is Prime95 stable. Could it be the mobo? the bios(latest)? or is it the harddrive? __________________ My FlickR Gallery! Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz with Artic Freezer 7 Pro. 4gb PC6400. MSI 8800GT OC 512mb. 1.6TB of space. Logitech G25. Logitech G7 gaming mouse. Logitech VX Revolution. Saitek Eclipse Keyboard. Dell Ultrasharp 2407wfp-HC and Ultrasharp 2007wfp. Senheiser HD280 Headphones.

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jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: November 28th, 2008 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 3,987 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 40	Did you install the board right? I mean, there are supposed to be little rounds (don't know how you call em) between the motherboard and the case, where you put the screws. __________________

December 30th, 2005, 08:58 PM	#4
AxlxA Joined: Jan 3rd, 2005 Last Online: October 20th, 2008 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,534 Rep Power: 17	you mean the spacers? yes of coures they're right... i'm using an old case. Blue screen says physical memory stuff. The funny thing is... it only happens every now and then.. but not all the time. My friend suggested it coudl be the video card's problem... since i see jittery stuff on the BIOS POST. __________________ My FlickR Gallery! Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz with Artic Freezer 7 Pro. 4gb PC6400. MSI 8800GT OC 512mb. 1.6TB of space. Logitech G25. Logitech G7 gaming mouse. Logitech VX Revolution. Saitek Eclipse Keyboard. Dell Ultrasharp 2407wfp-HC and Ultrasharp 2007wfp. Senheiser HD280 Headphones.

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jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 06:51 PM Location: US Age: 27 Posts: 5,633 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 51	hmm...those are the same symptoms I got when my hard drive died. Are all your IDE cables tight? __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

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SL65 Ambitious but rubbish! Joined: Jul 12th, 2004 Last Online: 09:24 AM Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 18 Posts: 9,123 Car: 1998 Subaru Legacy 2.5L Rep Power: 39	What a mess. It could be your video card. I actually know someone who was having somewhat similar problems and I'm pretty sure it turned out to be something with teh video card. Go to the Run command and type "dxdiag.exe" and do a diagnostic test. Hope that helps...way to bring in the new year eh. __________________

December 31st, 2005, 09:48 PM	#7
AxlxA Joined: Jan 3rd, 2005 Last Online: October 20th, 2008 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,534 Rep Power: 17	Okay not the video card.. just tried a different working video card and i got the same errors. Next i'll have to try a new harddrive(old diff hdd i mean) to see if it's the HDD. THe blue scren happens Right as winxp logo is loading winxp... the bar would move ont he bottom... then it woudl freeze. that is when i know it's gonna crash. it freezes then flash a blue screen for less than a second. then restarts and give me all garbled images of video card bios and mobo bios. I can't even read what the blue screen is caused by. __________________ My FlickR Gallery! Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz with Artic Freezer 7 Pro. 4gb PC6400. MSI 8800GT OC 512mb. 1.6TB of space. Logitech G25. Logitech G7 gaming mouse. Logitech VX Revolution. Saitek Eclipse Keyboard. Dell Ultrasharp 2407wfp-HC and Ultrasharp 2007wfp. Senheiser HD280 Headphones.

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January 2nd, 2006, 04:22 AM	#9
AxlxA Joined: Jan 3rd, 2005 Last Online: October 20th, 2008 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,534 Rep Power: 17	okay first blue screen i encountered... IRQL_Not_Less_Or_Equal Second one i encountered.... win32k.sys error Overall... it seems to be a memory problem... like something's up with teh ram. But the thing is... i treid new rams and i tried different slots.. __________________ My FlickR Gallery! Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz with Artic Freezer 7 Pro. 4gb PC6400. MSI 8800GT OC 512mb. 1.6TB of space. Logitech G25. Logitech G7 gaming mouse. Logitech VX Revolution. Saitek Eclipse Keyboard. Dell Ultrasharp 2407wfp-HC and Ultrasharp 2007wfp. Senheiser HD280 Headphones.

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jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: November 28th, 2008 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 3,987 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 40	maybe your motherboard is just faulty? __________________

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xecutioner Joined: Aug 7th, 2005 Last Online: November 10th, 2008 Location: melbourne Posts: 61 Car: evo 03 & evo 6.5 Rep Power: 14	have u tried a xp repair or a system restore dunno if that will work tho could be ur mb like others have said __________________ xbox 360 tags: KGI Monkey KL & xDrunkenM0nkeYx

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ranger_dood Joined: Feb 26th, 2005 Last Online: May 29th, 2008 Posts: 147 Rep Power: 0	You might've hit your mobo with some ESD when you changed out the processor.

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Nelis Joined: Nov 14th, 2005 Last Online: September 24th, 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 141 Rep Power: 0	sounds like a memory problem indeed, you should try some other ram... __________________

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AxlxA Joined: Jan 3rd, 2005 Last Online: October 20th, 2008 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,534 Rep Power: 17	tried 3 diff brands of ram. I'm gonna RMA the mobo soon.. newegg says they wont take it back. __________________ My FlickR Gallery! Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz with Artic Freezer 7 Pro. 4gb PC6400. MSI 8800GT OC 512mb. 1.6TB of space. Logitech G25. Logitech G7 gaming mouse. Logitech VX Revolution. Saitek Eclipse Keyboard. Dell Ultrasharp 2407wfp-HC and Ultrasharp 2007wfp. Senheiser HD280 Headphones.

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jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: November 28th, 2008 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 3,987 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 40	or maybe you can go to a computer store with it and let them figure it out. __________________

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bahnstormer Joined: Jan 5th, 2004 Last Online: August 25th, 2008 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 1,449 Rep Power: 0	u installed a 64bit or 32bit version of windows? lets start there __________________

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AxlxA Joined: Jan 3rd, 2005 Last Online: October 20th, 2008 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,534 Rep Power: 17	32bit __________________ My FlickR Gallery! Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz with Artic Freezer 7 Pro. 4gb PC6400. MSI 8800GT OC 512mb. 1.6TB of space. Logitech G25. Logitech G7 gaming mouse. Logitech VX Revolution. Saitek Eclipse Keyboard. Dell Ultrasharp 2407wfp-HC and Ultrasharp 2007wfp. Senheiser HD280 Headphones.

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AxlxA Joined: Jan 3rd, 2005 Last Online: October 20th, 2008 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,534 Rep Power: 17	Okay it's been a week or more. Problem still persists after using a new harddrive. Definitely going to RMA this mobo... so new... yet so flawed. __________________ My FlickR Gallery! Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz with Artic Freezer 7 Pro. 4gb PC6400. MSI 8800GT OC 512mb. 1.6TB of space. Logitech G25. Logitech G7 gaming mouse. Logitech VX Revolution. Saitek Eclipse Keyboard. Dell Ultrasharp 2407wfp-HC and Ultrasharp 2007wfp. Senheiser HD280 Headphones.

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