Need new graphics card.

zyran · November 9th, 2004, 04:21 PM

I bought a couple of games which needed pixel shader. I dont have it cause I'm using a Dell OEM Geforce MX420 which is a POS. I want something new but not over the top. Reasonable price range. I'm thinking mainstream. 150USD Max. It should be able to play HL2. Which is a must.

Any recommendations?

swek · November 9th, 2004, 05:31 PM

I would buy the Radeon 9800 pro. It's the best compromise between performance and costs.

Andrew911tt · November 9th, 2004, 06:42 PM

what about PNY GeForce FX 5500 128MB DDR PCI Graphics Card

http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6731/6731799_ra.jpg

anyone know anything about this card i could have got it for $80 a mounth ago but the price has gone up sence then it is at $120 now

bigfoot1942 · November 9th, 2004, 06:59 PM

the geforce FX series uses DirectX 8.1 instead of 9.0.
so a buy a card that does DirectX 9.0 since it has better quality.
besides, ATI cards outperform nVidia cards on DirectX almost anytime.
So you definately want an ATi card...
and for $150 you can get a 9800 pro...
just get one with a 256bit memorybus, its way faster than one with an 128bit bus.

Viper007Bond · November 9th, 2004, 08:24 PM

9800 Pro vote as well. However, do you still use your Dell case and power supply? If so, your PSU is probably not powerful enough to run your new card. This was the issue I had and instead of cutting a hole in my case for a bigger and normal sized PSU, I just built a new computer.

Renesis · November 9th, 2004, 09:15 PM

9800 PRO.

I have only a 200Watt Power supply (they recommend 300) but had no probs so, give it a go with your stock one before buying a new one.

Viper007Bond · November 9th, 2004, 09:17 PM

Yeah, it ran on my Dell PSU as well, but it's not advised. You can get under powered components which can lead to instability.

zenon · November 9th, 2004, 09:18 PM

I'll put in another vote for the 9800 Pro. images/smilies/smile.gif

I just built a computer for my brother with it in it, and so far I've been really impressed.

Andrew911tt · November 9th, 2004, 09:58 PM

is the ATI Radeon 9800 pro a dual moniter card?

Also very important for me can i get it in PCI not AGP (I have no AGP slots sucks for me)

Viper007Bond · November 9th, 2004, 10:04 PM

Yeah. It has a analog out, a digital out, and a S-Video out. You can't run 3 things off of it though. It comes with a digital to analog converter and I'm running two CRT's on mine right now. images/smilies/smile.gif

The All-In-Wonder version only has digital out and S-Video out.

Andrew911tt · November 9th, 2004, 10:12 PM

The analog out is the 15 pin (VGA) right?
What is the digital out look like?

swek · November 9th, 2004, 10:23 PM

http://www.hartware.net/media/reports/392/msi_g3ti200protd.jpg

From Left to Right: VGA - SVGA - DVI (Digital-Out)

bigfoot1942 · November 9th, 2004, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew911tt

is the ATI Radeon 9800 pro a dual moniter card?

Also very important for me can i get it in PCI not AGP (I have no AGP slots sucks for me)

uh-oh...
that limits your options very much...
ATI doesnt have anything on PCI above the Radeon 9600, and even that one is very rare... i think i should advise an ATI 9000 then... or an 9200 though the 9000 is better. Or perhaps there's a nVidia geforce 4 - 4200 pci somewhere... though im not sure.
Anyhow: dont get the FX5200, its rubbish!

Quote:

Originally Posted by swek

From Left to Right: VGA - SVGA - DVI (Digital-Out)

thats definately AGP... but you probabely allready knew that anyway.

Andrew911tt · November 9th, 2004, 10:33 PM

i wish i had a AGP slot images/smilies/cry.gif

bigfoot1942 · November 9th, 2004, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew911tt

i wish i had a AGP slot images/smilies/cry.gif

perhaps you can buy another motherboard with an AGP slot... it doesnt need to be that expensive.
or do you have one of those small pc thingies...

"barebone" or "shuttle" or something like that?

Andrew911tt · November 9th, 2004, 10:37 PM

Back to hoping the GeForce FX 5500 128MB price will drop back down

Renesis · November 9th, 2004, 11:11 PM

bleh GeForce

Andrew911tt · November 9th, 2004, 11:19 PM

emachines brand computer no real mother board becasue almost everything is onboard

Viper007Bond · November 10th, 2004, 12:11 AM

Ouch. Sounds like it's time to build a new computer and not buy a cheapo eMachines. images/smilies/wink.gif

Andrew911tt · November 10th, 2004, 01:00 AM

i got no money to do that

i will take donations though

November 9th, 2004, 04:21 PM	#1
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November 9th, 2004, 06:42 PM	#3
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November 9th, 2004, 06:59 PM	#4
bigfoot1942 Joined: Sep 15th, 2004 Last Online: October 17th, 2007 Location: Holland Posts: 864 Rep Power: 0	the geforce FX series uses DirectX 8.1 instead of 9.0. so a buy a card that does DirectX 9.0 since it has better quality. besides, ATI cards outperform nVidia cards on DirectX almost anytime. So you definately want an ATi card... and for $150 you can get a 9800 pro... just get one with a 256bit memorybus, its way faster than one with an 128bit bus. __________________ thnx viper... youre being very helpful

November 9th, 2004, 08:24 PM	#5
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,086 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 237	9800 Pro vote as well. However, do you still use your Dell case and power supply? If so, your PSU is probably not powerful enough to run your new card. This was the issue I had and instead of cutting a hole in my case for a bigger and normal sized PSU, I just built a new computer. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,086 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 237	Yeah, it ran on my Dell PSU as well, but it's not advised. You can get under powered components which can lead to instability. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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swek Global Moderator Joined: May 19th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 26 Posts: 4,345 Car: Does a bicycle count? Rep Power: 47	I would buy the Radeon 9800 pro. It's the best compromise between performance and costs.

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Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: December 29th, 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 21 Posts: 9,677 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 30	9800 PRO. I have only a 200Watt Power supply (they recommend 300) but had no probs so, give it a go with your stock one before buying a new one.

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zenon VIP Joined: Mar 8th, 2004 Last Online: April 3rd, 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,546 Rep Power: 22	I'll put in another vote for the 9800 Pro. I just built a computer for my brother with it in it, and so far I've been really impressed. __________________ *Disclaimer: 'Official "What's that Song?" Guy' unless said song is European house music or sung in German.

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Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,086 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 237	Yeah. It has a analog out, a digital out, and a S-Video out. You can't run 3 things off of it though. It comes with a digital to analog converter and I'm running two CRT's on mine right now. The All-In-Wonder version only has digital out and S-Video out. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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Andrew911tt Joined: Feb 2nd, 2004 Last Online: 04:06 AM Location: San Diego Age: 23 Posts: 423 Car: 2008 MazdaSpeed3 GT Rep Power: 24	The analog out is the 15 pin (VGA) right? What is the digital out look like? __________________ Nothing better than a Porsche except a better one!! 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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swek Global Moderator Joined: May 19th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 26 Posts: 4,345 Car: Does a bicycle count? Rep Power: 47	From Left to Right: VGA - SVGA - DVI (Digital-Out)

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Andrew911tt Joined: Feb 2nd, 2004 Last Online: 04:06 AM Location: San Diego Age: 23 Posts: 423 Car: 2008 MazdaSpeed3 GT Rep Power: 24	i wish i had a AGP slot __________________ Nothing better than a Porsche except a better one!! 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,086 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 237	Ouch. Sounds like it's time to build a new computer and not buy a cheapo eMachines. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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