Network Storage ...

Paddy · July 8th, 2008, 1:31 PM

Howdie,

I'm currently looking for a foolproof method of storage along with a substantial amount of room. I'm looking at the Western Digital My Book World Edition II 2TB NAS, comes in at around €460.

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=339804

I basically want to sit it on my desk and plug the ethernet cable into my laptop or alternatively have it wired into my wireless router but I don't think my router would be fast enough to give decent speeds when working straight from the drive. I want to put all my photographs on it, have Lightroom catalog them there and have the ability to work on them instantaneously.

Only worry is the Komplett page only lists it as being compatible with Winblows, I'm just assuming thats the software but would it be a pain to get it running on OSX without any native programs ?

Cobol74 · July 8th, 2008, 1:47 PM

Cosworth Paddy, just got the 500 Gig version. Warning - I am getting an intractable problem with it, after a fairly short period of time (about 20 mins) of loading it up - I am in the process of getting everything over on to it. It fails with an error message (I am at work at the moment so can't give the exact message) indicating that my disc is full (which I know it is not) or I have no write access rights.

Now I am writing from a PC and I have this connected to a NETGEAR router. I have tried direct connection to an XP machine - same issue, I have reset the Drive using the reset procedure and reinstalled, I have tried writing from my Vista notebook all to no avail.

I got one of the PC guys at work to have a delve on his technical web sites and he came up with that the drive is formatted possibly incorrectly for a PC - it is supposed to accept files from either a MAC or a PC, or the is a problem on the drive with a buffer of some kind filling up and not releasing its storage and overflowing.

I went into PCWorld from where I bought it and they said to bring it in and they'd take a look, one thing when you first set it up it has a power save time out and it was suggested that this should be set to NEVER or the longest possible as this may be causing an issue.

Hope that this helps - nice drive apart from that! The all white design suits a MAC.

/EDIT
There is a post here that may be of help - wish I'd read it before installing the Meio software.

http://www.amazon.com/review/product...#RB88N1IKKTDP2

//EDIT

OK home now - this is what I get following a load of some DVD type files - on this one I got only just over half of the DVD.

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/5715/wderrormessagevv8.th.jpg

The Chad · July 9th, 2008, 4:59 AM

Seems to me, in the Mac universe right now, if you are looking for some redundant network storage that the Drobo (http://www.drobo.com) is the way to go. It's similar to RAID5 but you don't have to use the same size drives, and it's easy to increase your space if a drive gets full. The control software (on the Drobo) is proprietary, but can be recovered if there is a Drobo failure (just not as easily as a RAID recovery).

499 USD gets you the case, another 199 USD for the DroboShare (which is the network attached storage device controller), and then you have to buy the drives. So it'd be a bit more expensive than your current plan, but would work with no issues on the Mac, and easily upgradable as drives get larger.

Sorry, doesn't help with your current suggestion, but throwing that out there.

As for the Windows only software. If it is a network attached drive, it'll share it's resources using SAMBA at the very least. As long as it does that, you can access those shares in OSX. There should be no reason to have to run software on your machine to get it to work, except maybe for initial configuration.

If your network is Gigabit, and you have a gigabit switch/router, it should be plenty fast to do with it what you want to. However, if there's a Firewire option, I'd probably use it with the Mac for your Lightroom work, because it'd probably be even faster. But I'm not sure not having direct experience.

Viper007Bond · July 9th, 2008, 5:39 AM

Once I have money, I'll just be building a PC that will sit in a closet. All it will have is a cheap mobo, a good PSU, a horrible CPU, gigabit ethernet, and a shit ton of HDs in it.

73GMCSprint · July 9th, 2008, 6:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Once I have money, I'll just be building a PC that will sit in a closet. All it will have is a cheap mobo, a good PSU, a horrible CPU, gigabit ethernet, and a shit ton of HDs in it.

I was going to suggest something like that. If you have an older computer you don't need anymore it's relatively inexpensive to convert it into a file server. The processor doesn't need to be very powerful at all. And you can be a lot more flexible with configuration than some hard-drive-in-a-box thing.

argatoga · July 9th, 2008, 7:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Once I have money, I'll just be building a PC that will sit in a closet. All it will have is a cheap mobo, a good PSU, a horrible CPU, gigabit ethernet, and a shit ton of HDs in it.

I've been doing that for years. I just recently ditched my old P3 for an Intel Atom system. It's a cheap low power 64bit CPU, which makes it a great ZFS filesever. The only problem I have had with it thus far is that the built in NIC isn't supported by FreeBSD, otherwise it has been great.

Paddy · July 10th, 2008, 11:34 PM

http://www.elara.ie/products/details...ME865H210#spec

Think I may have found an alternative to the WD shitbox.

Product Description Acer Altos easyStore NAS server
Device Type NAS server
Host Connectivity Gigabit Ethernet
Total Storage Capacity 2 TB
Max Supported Capacity 2 TB
Dimensions (WxDxH) 11.5 cm x 24 cm x 21 cm
Weight 4.5 kg
Processor 1 x Intel 80219 600 MHz
Storage Controller RAID - Serial ATA-300 - RAID 0, 1, 5, 10, JBOD
Hard Drive 4 x 500 GB hot-swap Serial ATA-300
Networking Network adapter - integrated - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet
Power AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
Manufacturer Warranty 3 years warranty

BerserkerCatSplat · July 10th, 2008, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Once I have money, I'll just be building a PC that will sit in a closet. All it will have is a cheap mobo, a good PSU, a horrible CPU, gigabit ethernet, and a shit ton of HDs in it.

I'm halfway there, got an old PIII dual-Slot-A workstation with dual 600's and RAM to go with it, I'm going to throw it in an old case with a couple of 500's and plug it into my router and call it a day.

Quiky · July 11th, 2008, 2:01 AM

Why don't you do it properly and get a RAID5 PCI-Express card?
Areca's ARC-1210 - X8 PCI Express RAID Controller
http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/...board/?page=10

July 8th, 2008, 1:31 PM	#1
Paddy Previously known as Cosworth Joined: Mar 24th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Waterford, Rep of Ireland Age: 23 Posts: 1,989 LFS Status: Rep Power: 42	Network Storage ... Howdie, I'm currently looking for a foolproof method of storage along with a substantial amount of room. I'm looking at the Western Digital My Book World Edition II 2TB NAS, comes in at around €460. http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=339804 I basically want to sit it on my desk and plug the ethernet cable into my laptop or alternatively have it wired into my wireless router but I don't think my router would be fast enough to give decent speeds when working straight from the drive. I want to put all my photographs on it, have Lightroom catalog them there and have the ability to work on them instantaneously. Only worry is the Komplett page only lists it as being compatible with Winblows, I'm just assuming thats the software but would it be a pain to get it running on OSX without any native programs ? __________________ w: www.pmcgphotos.com e: paddy@pmcgphotos.com

July 8th, 2008, 1:47 PM	#2
Cobol74 Joined: Mar 21st, 2006 Last Online: 10:50 AM Location: Southampton Posts: 8,592 Car: Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 TDI Slush box. Rep Power: 126	Cosworth Paddy, just got the 500 Gig version. Warning - I am getting an intractable problem with it, after a fairly short period of time (about 20 mins) of loading it up - I am in the process of getting everything over on to it. It fails with an error message (I am at work at the moment so can't give the exact message) indicating that my disc is full (which I know it is not) or I have no write access rights. Now I am writing from a PC and I have this connected to a NETGEAR router. I have tried direct connection to an XP machine - same issue, I have reset the Drive using the reset procedure and reinstalled, I have tried writing from my Vista notebook all to no avail. I got one of the PC guys at work to have a delve on his technical web sites and he came up with that the drive is formatted possibly incorrectly for a PC - it is supposed to accept files from either a MAC or a PC, or the is a problem on the drive with a buffer of some kind filling up and not releasing its storage and overflowing. I went into PCWorld from where I bought it and they said to bring it in and they'd take a look, one thing when you first set it up it has a power save time out and it was suggested that this should be set to NEVER or the longest possible as this may be causing an issue. Hope that this helps - nice drive apart from that! The all white design suits a MAC. /EDIT There is a post here that may be of help - wish I'd read it before installing the Meio software. http://www.amazon.com/review/product...#RB88N1IKKTDP2 //EDIT OK home now - this is what I get following a load of some DVD type files - on this one I got only just over half of the DVD. __________________ Lotus 7 Registration Mark = KAR120C : Engine Number = 461034 TZ Ross Brawn genius or what? Last edited by Cobol74; July 9th, 2008 at 9:07 AM.

July 9th, 2008, 4:59 AM	#3
The Chad Joined: Feb 22nd, 2005 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Northwest Ohio Age: 26 Posts: 527 Car: 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Rep Power: 25	Seems to me, in the Mac universe right now, if you are looking for some redundant network storage that the Drobo (http://www.drobo.com) is the way to go. It's similar to RAID5 but you don't have to use the same size drives, and it's easy to increase your space if a drive gets full. The control software (on the Drobo) is proprietary, but can be recovered if there is a Drobo failure (just not as easily as a RAID recovery). 499 USD gets you the case, another 199 USD for the DroboShare (which is the network attached storage device controller), and then you have to buy the drives. So it'd be a bit more expensive than your current plan, but would work with no issues on the Mac, and easily upgradable as drives get larger. Sorry, doesn't help with your current suggestion, but throwing that out there. As for the Windows only software. If it is a network attached drive, it'll share it's resources using SAMBA at the very least. As long as it does that, you can access those shares in OSX. There should be no reason to have to run software on your machine to get it to work, except maybe for initial configuration. If your network is Gigabit, and you have a gigabit switch/router, it should be plenty fast to do with it what you want to. However, if there's a Firewire option, I'd probably use it with the Mac for your Lightroom work, because it'd probably be even faster. But I'm not sure not having direct experience. __________________ ChadKirchner.com: Ambitious But Rubbish! Computer: 2.4GHz MacBook Pro, 4GB RAM Drobo: 2.24TB Usable iPod: 32GB iPod touch, 2nd Generation "- ... But don't dawdle. Get the car into top gear as quickly as is reasonable. Fifth gear, remember, is no good at all." -- Jeremy Clarkson

July 9th, 2008, 5:39 AM	#4
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 10:47 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,270 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	Once I have money, I'll just be building a PC that will sit in a closet. All it will have is a cheap mobo, a good PSU, a horrible CPU, gigabit ethernet, and a shit ton of HDs in it. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

July 10th, 2008, 11:34 PM	#7
Paddy Previously known as Cosworth Joined: Mar 24th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Waterford, Rep of Ireland Age: 23 Posts: 1,989 LFS Status: Rep Power: 42	http://www.elara.ie/products/details...ME865H210#spec Think I may have found an alternative to the WD shitbox. Product Description Acer Altos easyStore NAS server Device Type NAS server Host Connectivity Gigabit Ethernet Total Storage Capacity 2 TB Max Supported Capacity 2 TB Dimensions (WxDxH) 11.5 cm x 24 cm x 21 cm Weight 4.5 kg Processor 1 x Intel 80219 600 MHz Storage Controller RAID - Serial ATA-300 - RAID 0, 1, 5, 10, JBOD Hard Drive 4 x 500 GB hot-swap Serial ATA-300 Networking Network adapter - integrated - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet Power AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz ) Manufacturer Warranty 3 years warranty __________________ w: www.pmcgphotos.com e: paddy@pmcgphotos.com

July 11th, 2008, 2:01 AM	#9
Quiky Devouring your soul.. after belly rubs. Joined: Aug 21st, 1995 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Maryland Posts: 3,219 Car: Dacia Sandero Turbo Quattroporte Mayo GTZR1 LFS Status: Rep Power: 587	Why don't you do it properly and get a RAID5 PCI-Express card? Areca's ARC-1210 - X8 PCI Express RAID Controller http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/...board/?page=10

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