Opera 9.5

[MadCow809]

Originally Posted by Archie411

I didn't notice that....hmm....yeah I got used to the ctrl-b shortcut also. I wonder what made them change it.

yeah but dont worry, you can change the keyboard command back to the standard Opera 9.2 shortcut if you want.

[Polly]

Originally Posted by BerserkerCatSplat

Browser arguments are almost as annoying as OS arguments.

And as Apple or something else arguments.

And as ZR1 or GT-R arguments.

And as R8 or Z06 arguments

And as MT or AT arguments.

And as NA or FI arguments.

And as US or EU arguments.


Meh, people and all their precious little opinions...

[chaos386]

Originally Posted by Archie411

But Viper there some things that I havent seen in FireFox.

When you close the browser, if you have unclosed tabs they will be reopened when you start again. (Thats really handy if you have many tabs open and you have a power faliure. Dont have to go opening each one.)

If Firefox crashes, when you open it again, it'll ask if you want to open the tabs you had open. This has been a feature since version 2. In version 3 they added the ability to save the tabs you have open when closing the browser (although you can get the same ability in FF2 with a plugin).

Originally Posted by Archie411

And when you close all tabs in FireFox (As I have experienced..) the tab bar dissapears. I know ctrl-t exist but I like to have the tab so I can quickly open another tab without pressing any keyboard buttons.

Tools-->Options-->Tabs-->Always show the tab bar

Originally Posted by Archie411

And the tab bar comes to another feature. "Speed Dial" The idea is the same as in phones exept you store web pages insterd of numbers. Its really handy for sites that you vist daily. (Very handy than bookmaking.)(and FinalGear has a special spot in my Speed Dial.)

Not sure what advantage this has over regular bookmarks or bookmarks in the toolbar, but FF3 added "Smart Bookmarks", which keeps track of most visited/recently bookmarked/recently tagged websites. I just use the awesome-bar now, though, since it's so much quicker to have it search through URLs and page titles.

Originally Posted by Archie411

Are there any features in FireFox that you use daily and that is unique to FireFox? Care to share with us as we did with Opera?

FoxyProxy. Going through the "Funny Pictures Thread" would be either extremely disappointing or extremely slow without it. To access certain sites, I need to route some of my traffic through TOR, which is much slower than normal browsing. FoxyProxy lets me define this based on URL, so I don't have to load everything through it.

Usually, there's at least one plugin that Firefox has that prevents someone from switching to another browser. Plus, the upgraded address bar in FF3 is hugely convenient.

[chvvkumar]

An awesome site for Advanced opera users:
http://operawiki.info/CustomButtons

A great minimalist skin for opera users!
http://my.opera.com/community/custom...rystal&x=0&y=0

Opera can easily toggle proxy via the F12 menu.

[Archie411]

Originally Posted by chaos386

If Firefox crashes, when you open it again, it'll ask if you want to open the tabs you had open. This has been a feature since version 2. In version 3 they added the ability to save the tabs you have open when closing the browser (although you can get the same ability in FF2 with a plugin).

Well its only on crashing which I don't mind but if I want to go somewhere and I can safely close the browser without hesistation. Good to hear that its coming to FF3 but m sure I would get tired of clicking "Yes" or whatever that might come.

Originally Posted by chaos386

Tools-->Options-->Tabs-->Always show the tab bar

Cool I guesss I missed that one.

Originally Posted by chaos386

Not sure what advantage this has over regular bookmarks or bookmarks in the toolbar, but FF3 added "Smart Bookmarks", which keeps track of most visited/recently bookmarked/recently tagged websites. I just use the awesome-bar now, though, since it's so much quicker to have it search through URLs and page titles.

For me speed dial is much better. Here is an photo to give you a idea.



So basically when you click one of them you will goto them.

Originally Posted by chaos386

FoxyProxy. Going through the "Funny Pictures Thread" would be either extremely disappointing or extremely slow without it. To access certain sites, I need to route some of my traffic through TOR, which is much slower than normal browsing. FoxyProxy lets me define this based on URL, so I don't have to load everything through it.

Usually, there's at least one plugin that Firefox has that prevents someone from switching to another browser. Plus, the upgraded address bar in FF3 is hugely convenient.

The thing is they are add ons
And Opera can (with one click of a button) veiw or block or show only cached images. (You can see this button on the bar which is under the address "Show Images")

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Originally Posted by chvvkumar

An awesome site for Advanced opera users:
http://operawiki.info/CustomButtons

A great minimalist skin for opera users!
http://my.opera.com/community/custom...rystal&x=0&y=0

Opera can easily toggle proxy via the F12 menu.

Thats really intresting. I never knew that I could get buttons easy as that lol

Ph and any help with the "Linked Window" Anyone?

[chaos386]

Originally Posted by Archie411

Well its only on crashing which I don't mind but if I want to go somewhere and I can safely close the browser without hesistation. Good to hear that its coming to FF3 but m sure I would get tired of clicking "Yes" or whatever that might come.

Then you just check the "Do not ask next time" box.

Originally Posted by Archie411

For me speed dial is much better. Here is an photo to give you a idea.



So basically when you click one of them you will goto them.

I like the preview icons, but FF's bookmark toolbar does the same thing without having to use the whole window:



What's really neat is that if I middle-click the Newegg folder, it'll open up each page in a new tab.

Originally Posted by Archie411

The thing is they are add ons
And Opera can (with one click of a button) veiw or block or show only cached images. (You can see this button on the bar which is under the address "Show Images")

I don't think you understand. FoxyProxy is a proxy switcher. To switch proxies in Opera, I'd have to go into the options and change the settings each freaking time I wanted to use TOR. It'd essentially make the feature unusable to me (unless there's quick proxy-switching in Opera). I also don't see what the problem with add-ons is. You can do pretty much anything you want with them, or leave them out if you don't want the bloat. FF also keeps track of updates for them, which is nice.

EDIT: Just thought of another thing: can you drag 'n' drop tabs in Opera?

[Eye-Q]

Originally Posted by Archie411

As a loyal Opera user im ashamed to say I didn't know about the 5th feature about the "Linked Window"
Could you enlighten me on that?

Oh, sorry, I must have missed that...

Yes, as you already found out it's just a linked tab but you can open a new instance of opera and drag and drop that linked tab to the new instance. It still works linked and you can arrange those two Opera-windows in Windows as you like.
If you have only one tab opened you can create a linked tab and arrange those two tabs that they both use half of the screen (right click on the tab bar -> Arrange -> Tile Vertically or just Shift + F6).

Originally Posted by chaos386

I like the preview icons, but FF's bookmark toolbar does the same thing without having to use the whole window

The preview icons are "add-ons" which can be deactivated, and of course there is a bookmark toolbar (which can be deactivated or dragged wherever you like) in Opera, too.

Originally Posted by chaos386

What's really neat is that if I middle-click the Newegg folder, it'll open up each page in a new tab.

In Opera there is a separate menu item for "Open All Folder Items" so you have to click once more.

Originally Posted by chaos386

ITo switch proxies in Opera, I'd have to go into the options and change the settings each freaking time I wanted to use TOR. It'd essentially make the feature unusable to me (unless there's quick proxy-switching in Opera).

F12 -> check or uncheck "Enable Proxy Servers" (if you only want to use TOR or not - if you have different proxies then it's not that easy since you can only define one proxy per protocol [HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, Gopher, WAIS]) but you can define exceptions for local sites and certain websites so the proxy isn't used, even if it's activated.

Originally Posted by chaos386

I also don't see what the problem with add-ons is. You can do pretty much anything you want with them, or leave them out if you don't want the bloat. FF also keeps track of updates for them, which is nice.

Yes, you can have anything you want, but you have to search (and play "try and error") in the first place. What if an extension isn't developed further and a new Firefox-version comes out? Then you have to search (and play "try and error") again.

Originally Posted by chaos386

EDIT: Just thought of another thing: can you drag 'n' drop tabs in Opera?

Of course, be it within the window or to another running instance of Opera.

[chaos386]

Originally Posted by Eye-Q

The preview icons are "add-ons" which can be deactivated, and of course there is a bookmark toolbar (which can be deactivated or dragged wherever you like) in Opera, too.

Ah OK, nifty.

Originally Posted by Eye-Q

F12 -> check or uncheck "Enable Proxy Servers" (if you only want to use TOR or not - if you have different proxies then it's not that easy since you can only define one proxy per protocol [HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, Gopher, WAIS]) but you can define exceptions for local sites and certain websites so the proxy isn't used, even if it's activated.

That might work for my desktop, which only needs TOR or nothing, but the laptop uses three proxies (TOR, Campus network, Nothing), so it wouldn't work there. Then again, I want *most* sites to go through proxyless, and only have certain ones go through the proxy (TOR), so I'd still be manually switching between the two.

Originally Posted by Eye-Q

Yes, you can have anything you want, but you have to search (and play "try and error") in the first place. What if an extension isn't developed further and a new Firefox-version comes out? Then you have to search (and play "try and error") again.

Searching doesn't really take that long (you search once and then use it. It's not like you're re-searching the same add-ons every three weeks or something...). You're right about some of them not being updated for new versions of Firefox, though. I miss DictionarySearch. On the plus side, anything remotely useful will be actively developed 99% of the time.

The bottom line is that they're still available, which is more than can be said for other browsers.

[Eye-Q]

Originally Posted by chaos386

That might work for my desktop, which only needs TOR or nothing, but the laptop uses three proxies (TOR, Campus network, Nothing), so it wouldn't work there. Then again, I want *most* sites to go through proxyless, and only have certain ones go through the proxy (TOR), so I'd still be manually switching between the two.

OK, that's a feature Opera doesn't provide but 99.99% of the users want it "on" or "off".

Originally Posted by chaos386

I miss DictionarySearch.

In Opera you have that feature already built-in (sadly this feature isn't alterable so you have to live with babelfish), and you have the option to define searches via rightclicking in a search box of a dictionary of your choice and choose "Create Search" so you have that option in the "Search With"-submenu.

Yes, I know Firefox has the feature I last mentioned, too.

[db2450]

The only reason I like Opera is because it feels more solid and smooth. The rendering of the pages just seems smoother. The real thing for me though is the scrolling, it takes a while to get used to, but its amazing compared to other browsers.

[chaos386]

Actually, DictionarySearch was just updated to be FF3 compatible! Now I have all my add-ons back.

[Archie411]

Originally Posted by db2450

The only reason I like Opera is because it feels more solid and smooth. The rendering of the pages just seems smoother. The real thing for me though is the scrolling, it takes a while to get used to, but its amazing compared to other browsers.

I think I know what you mean
Goto Tools-Preferences-Adavanced(tab)-browsing
Then check the "Smooth Scrolling"

I hope this helps

Oh and to the other guys, im steping off the porxy thing. I dont use and so I dont know much about it.

[db2450]

Originally Posted by Archie411

I think I know what you mean
Goto Tools-Preferences-Adavanced(tab)-browsing
Then check the "Smooth Scrolling"

I hope this helps

Oh and to the other guys, im steping off the porxy thing. I dont use and so I dont know much about it.

Its better, but Opera's is still so much nicer for me .

[KaJuN]

Well I'm one of the millions who downloaded Firefox and I have to admit I'm not all that impressed with it. So I looked through this thread and decided to give Opera a try. Wow it feels so much quicker than Firefox ever was! I'll give it a few days before I hand out my final verdict but from what I've seen so far I think I have a new favorite browser.

[Archie411]

Originally Posted by KaJuN

Well I'm one of the millions who downloaded Firefox and I have to admit I'm not all that impressed with it. So I looked through this thread and decided to give Opera a try. Wow it feels so much quicker than Firefox ever was! I'll give it a few days before I hand out my final verdict but from what I've seen so far I think I have a new favorite browser.

At last another one has seen the light. I still can't belive so many people likes firefox so much.
I wonder why Opera is so much left out?
(Oh and im not trying to be a Opera fanboy here but im guess giving my veiws)

[Viper007Bond]

Just as long as it's not IE, I won't complain about what you use. To each their own.