REALLY GONNA GET A NEW HD on Wednesday. NEED ADVICE!

jasonchiu · March 21st, 2005, 2:59 PM

aite i got money in my bank

i wanna get a new hd as mine are full. 100GB in total.

but! i am a scabby bugger so i want to know whats the best one for money. i wanna get a 120gb one and wonder if it is worth getting that extra mb so the stuff comes up faster or to get S-ATA or ATA.

but i donno if my mother board supprots it. if it helps its a ASUS P4S333

thanks for the help in advance. moreover , if i get it working i will seeded for 4 days straight while i;m in jp! yay!

freerider · March 21st, 2005, 3:44 PM

I'm sorry to tell you, but your mobo doesn't support sata. So that's no option anymore. If you need to buy a new hd, I would suggest to go for 160-200-250GB. They're the best value for storage nowadays. Don't get fooled with the amount of cache it has. You won't need it unless you transfer alot between hd's.
And another thing, I wouldn't post how much money you have. I wouldn't even say it to your best friends.

Greetz Johan

jasonchiu · March 21st, 2005, 4:14 PM

thanks for the info. so 160gb plus is best value for money?

i probz go for that one then

Kip_6666 · March 21st, 2005, 4:51 PM

Nah, go to the store with a calculator, then work out the cost per gigabyte. In Holland the sweet spot is the 200gb drive, best $ per gig.
But its kinda different per region. Like stated earlier it is going to be in the 160-250 gig region.

As for brand, the 5 year warrenty seagate offers is no match for the other brands.

Mischief007 · March 21st, 2005, 5:05 PM

What a bout a DVD Burner jason???

Viper007Bond · March 21st, 2005, 8:32 PM

I only have 2 SATA ports on my mobo, so I just picked up this so that I could use my 3rd SATA HD:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...150-015&depa=0

Probably not as fast as it has to use my PCI pipe, but it's not a big deal as I just have my 250 GB TV episodes HD on it which I don't access very often.

TechZ · March 21st, 2005, 8:39 PM

Get an Internal HD, and put it in an external caddy, its great! USB2.0 speedy and can turn it off when u dont need it images/smilies/smile.gif

Get a nice 250gb one, you can never have enough space images/smilies/smile.gif

swek · March 21st, 2005, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechZ

Get an Internal HD, and put it in an external caddy, its great! USB2.0 speedy and can turn it off when u dont need it images/smilies/smile.gif

I've always asked myself one thing about external caddys. I've thought about buying one a few months ago, when they finally became affordable. As far as I understood it, you can get them as USB 2.0 and Firewire.
So my question is the following one. Where are the differences between them. Is it just a speed difference or are there other reasons in favor of firewire ? Like the compatibility with macs. That would be important to me because a friend of mine has one.

Kip_6666 · March 21st, 2005, 10:35 PM

Firewire is faster, but not every pc has it, most macs do.
Usb2 is pretty close though, and most of the time the usb2 caddies are cheaper.
Another point is that there are loads of other devices which are more likely to support usb.

ESPNSTI · March 21st, 2005, 10:40 PM

Technically, from what I understand, USB2 is a much messier and crappier standard than FireWire.
I'm sure that's why the industry made it more popular than firewire. images/smilies/bangin.gif

(Doesn't that just always happen images/smilies/wacko.gif

)

swek · March 21st, 2005, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPNSTI

Technically, from what I understand, USB2 is a much messier and crappier standard than FireWire.
I'm sure that's why the industry made it more popular than firewire. images/smilies/bangin.gif

(Doesn't that just always happen images/smilies/wacko.gif

)

Isn't USB from Microsoft and Firewire by Apple ? That would explain the differences. images/smilies/wink.gif

Kip_6666 · March 21st, 2005, 10:46 PM

Overall usb controllers, that you get on mobos and other devices are way cheaper than the firewire counter parts. Thats why its more popular.

And I'm not sure, but I think you might also have to pay a licence fee if you want to make a firewire device.

Viper007Bond · March 21st, 2005, 11:17 PM

I have more Firewire ports than I know what to do with. images/smilies/wacko.gif

pdanev · March 21st, 2005, 11:30 PM

i have a simple external box and a normal hdd in it, usb2, works perfectly fine. dunno about firewire, but with usb boxes u have to be careful with max capacity, my box e.g. can handle 120gb hdd max, so u wouldnt be able to put e.g. a 200gb hdd

andyhui01 · March 22nd, 2005, 6:24 AM

same here.... so I end up just using a firewire port for my iPod only... I have like 4 on my comp cuz when it first came out... it was the quickest and I bought a PCI card so I can plug in my external HD and everything... little did I know that the USB 2.0 was going to be released round the corner images/smilies/lol.gif

jasonchiu · March 22nd, 2005, 8:08 AM

sending songs to an ipod using usb2.0 is sooooooooooooooooo much faster than firwire

andyhui01 · March 22nd, 2005, 9:32 AM

but if I have 4spare ports for Firewire... I might as well use it... its just like 0.01sec per song quicker by USB images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

TechZ · March 22nd, 2005, 10:38 AM

There are a few specs to be careful about too, USB 2 Full Speed and High Speed, 480mbps
Firewire 400mbps, and Firewire 2 (800mbps). You can never use these speeds images/smilies/smile.gif

It was cheaper getting the USB 2.0 model, and its more common to have usb ports than firewire. it really doesnt matter.

Some caddys can handle the 300gb hd also, always better to read before buying, also check that it comes with a small fan to keep the HD cool. I got a generic brand (ePRO). its great, works fine for me and even has a fan.

bigfoot1942 · March 22nd, 2005, 12:45 PM

im a hitachi fan, so i recommend a hitachi harddisk. Seagate etc are good as well, but maxtor is generally hotter and noisier...

andyhui01 · March 22nd, 2005, 12:51 PM

I haven't had good experience with my Hitachi hard-disk... my next hd would be a WD as its the only one I haven't tried images/smilies/lol.gif

March 21st, 2005, 2:59 PM	#1
jasonchiu Banned Joined: May 26th, 2004 Last Online: August 26th, 2005 Location: hong kong Posts: 5,216 Rep Power: 0	REALLY GONNA GET A NEW HD on Wednesday. NEED ADVICE! aite i got money in my bank i wanna get a new hd as mine are full. 100GB in total. but! i am a scabby bugger so i want to know whats the best one for money. i wanna get a 120gb one and wonder if it is worth getting that extra mb so the stuff comes up faster or to get S-ATA or ATA. but i donno if my mother board supprots it. if it helps its a ASUS P4S333 thanks for the help in advance. moreover , if i get it working i will seeded for 4 days straight while i;m in jp! yay!

March 21st, 2005, 4:51 PM	#4
Kip_6666 I Bought This Title :o Joined: May 17th, 2004 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: The Netherlands Age: 23 Posts: 3,041 Car: Saab 9-3 2.0t @ stage 3 now & Saab Viggen Rep Power: 53	Nah, go to the store with a calculator, then work out the cost per gigabyte. In Holland the sweet spot is the 200gb drive, best $ per gig. But its kinda different per region. Like stated earlier it is going to be in the 160-250 gig region. As for brand, the 5 year warrenty seagate offers is no match for the other brands. __________________ http://www.internet-memes.com Now with 50% less database error My Flickr

March 21st, 2005, 5:05 PM	#5
Mischief007 Joined: Dec 3rd, 2004 Last Online: 1:18 AM Location: London, Ontario, Canada Age: 28 Posts: 4,525 Car: 2004 GP GTP CompG LFS Status: Rep Power: 29	What a bout a DVD Burner jason??? __________________ 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP CompG 71,464 km - 44,406 miles 14.4101 @ 94.67 mph

March 21st, 2005, 8:32 PM	#6
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,270 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	I only have 2 SATA ports on my mobo, so I just picked up this so that I could use my 3rd SATA HD: http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...150-015&depa=0 Probably not as fast as it has to use my PCI pipe, but it's not a big deal as I just have my 250 GB TV episodes HD on it which I don't access very often. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

March 21st, 2005, 8:39 PM	#7
TechZ Captain Internet Joined: Dec 19th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Bahrain Age: 25 Posts: 2,921 Car: Audi TT '08 Rep Power: 200	Get an Internal HD, and put it in an external caddy, its great! USB2.0 speedy and can turn it off when u dont need it Get a nice 250gb one, you can never have enough space __________________ techzonline.net

March 21st, 2005, 3:44 PM	#2
freerider Joined: Jan 5th, 2005 Last Online: March 17th, 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 464 Rep Power: 0	I'm sorry to tell you, but your mobo doesn't support sata. So that's no option anymore. If you need to buy a new hd, I would suggest to go for 160-200-250GB. They're the best value for storage nowadays. Don't get fooled with the amount of cache it has. You won't need it unless you transfer alot between hd's. And another thing, I wouldn't post how much money you have. I wouldn't even say it to your best friends. Greetz Johan

March 21st, 2005, 4:14 PM	#3
jasonchiu Banned Joined: May 26th, 2004 Last Online: August 26th, 2005 Location: hong kong Posts: 5,216 Rep Power: 0	thanks for the info. so 160gb plus is best value for money? i probz go for that one then

March 21st, 2005, 10:35 PM	#9
Kip_6666 I Bought This Title :o Joined: May 17th, 2004 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: The Netherlands Age: 23 Posts: 3,041 Car: Saab 9-3 2.0t @ stage 3 now & Saab Viggen Rep Power: 53	Firewire is faster, but not every pc has it, most macs do. Usb2 is pretty close though, and most of the time the usb2 caddies are cheaper. Another point is that there are loads of other devices which are more likely to support usb. __________________ http://www.internet-memes.com Now with 50% less database error My Flickr

March 21st, 2005, 10:40 PM	#10
ESPNSTI Can't Find Waldo Joined: Dec 9th, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Decorah, IA Age: 37 Posts: 4,333 Car: 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI (USDM) LFS Status: Rep Power: 42	Technically, from what I understand, USB2 is a much messier and crappier standard than FireWire. I'm sure that's why the industry made it more popular than firewire. (Doesn't that just always happen ) __________________ Top Gear Episode Guide (Excel) \| Top Gear Episode Guide (HTML) \| Top Gear Classic Episode Guide (HTML) Other Top Gear Guides \| Fifth Gear Guides \| Clarkson's TV/Video List \| Tiff Needell's TV/Video List

March 21st, 2005, 10:46 PM	#12
Kip_6666 I Bought This Title :o Joined: May 17th, 2004 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: The Netherlands Age: 23 Posts: 3,041 Car: Saab 9-3 2.0t @ stage 3 now & Saab Viggen Rep Power: 53	Overall usb controllers, that you get on mobos and other devices are way cheaper than the firewire counter parts. Thats why its more popular. And I'm not sure, but I think you might also have to pay a licence fee if you want to make a firewire device. __________________ http://www.internet-memes.com Now with 50% less database error My Flickr

March 21st, 2005, 11:17 PM	#13
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,270 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	I have more Firewire ports than I know what to do with. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

March 21st, 2005, 11:30 PM	#14
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 26 Posts: 5,645 LFS Status: Rep Power: 28	i have a simple external box and a normal hdd in it, usb2, works perfectly fine. dunno about firewire, but with usb boxes u have to be careful with max capacity, my box e.g. can handle 120gb hdd max, so u wouldnt be able to put e.g. a 200gb hdd

March 22nd, 2005, 6:24 AM	#15
andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: August 28th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 8,528 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 32	same here.... so I end up just using a firewire port for my iPod only... I have like 4 on my comp cuz when it first came out... it was the quickest and I bought a PCI card so I can plug in my external HD and everything... little did I know that the USB 2.0 was going to be released round the corner __________________

March 22nd, 2005, 8:08 AM	#16
jasonchiu Banned Joined: May 26th, 2004 Last Online: August 26th, 2005 Location: hong kong Posts: 5,216 Rep Power: 0	sending songs to an ipod using usb2.0 is sooooooooooooooooo much faster than firwire

March 22nd, 2005, 9:32 AM	#17
andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: August 28th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 8,528 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 32	but if I have 4spare ports for Firewire... I might as well use it... its just like 0.01sec per song quicker by USB __________________

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March 22nd, 2005, 10:38 AM	#18
TechZ Captain Internet Joined: Dec 19th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Bahrain Age: 25 Posts: 2,921 Car: Audi TT '08 Rep Power: 200	There are a few specs to be careful about too, USB 2 Full Speed and High Speed, 480mbps Firewire 400mbps, and Firewire 2 (800mbps). You can never use these speeds It was cheaper getting the USB 2.0 model, and its more common to have usb ports than firewire. it really doesnt matter. Some caddys can handle the 300gb hd also, always better to read before buying, also check that it comes with a small fan to keep the HD cool. I got a generic brand (ePRO). its great, works fine for me and even has a fan. __________________ techzonline.net

March 22nd, 2005, 12:45 PM	#19
bigfoot1942 Joined: Sep 15th, 2004 Last Online: October 17th, 2007 Location: Holland Posts: 864 Rep Power: 0	im a hitachi fan, so i recommend a hitachi harddisk. Seagate etc are good as well, but maxtor is generally hotter and noisier... __________________ thnx viper... youre being very helpful

March 22nd, 2005, 12:51 PM	#20
andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: August 28th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 8,528 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 32	I haven't had good experience with my Hitachi hard-disk... my next hd would be a WD as its the only one I haven't tried __________________