removing CPU cooling

bone · August 24th, 2005, 09:01 AM

http://www.drunkencat.com/files/gvJb...x/DkRknj5Y.wmv

quiet an add for intel, AMD won't be that happy with the experiment

swek · August 24th, 2005, 09:20 AM

All modern CPU's have overheating protection embedded. That's a problem of the past I believe.

TechZ · August 24th, 2005, 09:30 AM

yeah, autoshut off, and stuff like that keep it from melting images/smilies/smile.gif

flyingfridge · August 24th, 2005, 11:53 AM

Yeah AMDs have been like that for a long time. I've even seen one do that. Wasn't overclocked at all and it wasn't pretty.

I have a water cooling setup on my P4 3.2 Northwood (none of that Prescott crap) and while stuffing around with everything as us watercoolers seem to do, I have inadvertantly sent it well over 100 degrees Celsius for more than a 5 minute stretch on one occasion. Needless to say, the same chip is powering this message and has never shown any signs of unreliability or weak performance. After seeing and smelling one AMD chip go up and what I have done to my P4, no matter how much AMD says they have fixed their heat problems, I could just never go back.

CyberMonkey · August 24th, 2005, 03:12 PM

Is that that movie tomshardwarde made a long, long time ago? Animals could still talk then.

jayjaya29 · August 24th, 2005, 04:14 PM

I've been looking for this movie for years. Thanks for posting this!!!

I've been an AMD guy since the beginning, the fact that the CPU dies if you take the heatsink off isn't going to change my mind on which processor I'm going to get becuase why would I take the Heatsink off while having the computer on???

Anyways, thanks for the video once again.

mpulztracker · August 24th, 2005, 04:29 PM

I dont think its a problem with the current range of AMD processors .. The power requirements are much lesser than the current pentium class ...and the heat liberation is much less too. images/smilies/mellow.gif

CyberMonkey · August 24th, 2005, 04:42 PM

Indeed, their A64 range has a very good reputation on heat management.

jayjaya29 · August 24th, 2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberMonkey

Indeed, their A64 range as a very good reputation on heat management.

Agreed, my 3200+ 64 AMD is running 39c at full load. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Ultra_Kool_Dude · August 24th, 2005, 05:32 PM

I was dancing to that music. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

bone · August 24th, 2005, 05:42 PM

that's music? images/smilies/eek.gif

Dark_Templer_102 · August 24th, 2005, 08:40 PM

My prescott crap 3.2GHz runs HOT!...damn i hate it

Tommy Two Shoes · August 24th, 2005, 08:58 PM

Couple of things about that video...it was obviously trying to prove Intel as the best but it was a particularly fair test. They used two very outdated AMD processors which I believe would have been made before any kind of safety features had been installed to save your CPU. The two Intel's although not perhaps completely up to date are still more advanced and newer than the AMD's. Did you also notice that the temperature sensor was held much closer to the AMD's which would surely increase the temperature reading significantly. There is no way that a Pentium 4 would only be 29 degrees C when you take the Heatsink off, thats just stupid, a CPU has a higher temp. under load even with watercooling...Hmmmm, just a couple of thoughts images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Tom

jayjaya29 · August 25th, 2005, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Two Shoes

Couple of things about that video...it was obviously trying to prove Intel as the best but it was a particularly fair test. They used two very outdated AMD processors which I believe would have been made before any kind of safety features had been installed to save your CPU. The two Intel's although not perhaps completely up to date are still more advanced and newer than the AMD's. Did you also notice that the temperature sensor was held much closer to the AMD's which would surely increase the temperature reading significantly. There is no way that a Pentium 4 would only be 29 degrees C when you take the Heatsink off, thats just stupid, a CPU has a higher temp. under load even with watercooling...Hmmmm, just a couple of thoughts images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Tom

Yeah I know, like if the CPU could run at 29c with the heatsink off then you would be able to run the CPU without a Heatsink all the time. It just doesn't stack up.

Viper007Bond · August 25th, 2005, 04:30 AM

Anyone else notice those are all old CPUs? images/smilies/wink.gif

Cruzz563 · August 25th, 2005, 04:39 AM

Yeah, I was about to say that both Intel's and AMD's newest chips would fry in less than a second with no fans now. images/smilies/smile.gif

BigJ · August 25th, 2005, 04:46 AM

OOOLLLLLlllldddddd.....

I wonder what would happen if you did that with an AMD 64bit...

Vette Boss · August 25th, 2005, 05:07 AM

Just shutoff at the trip-temperature, I suppose. Most every modern chip/mobo has a trip-temperature or some thermal-throttle to slow the chip down at highish temps.

chaos386 · August 25th, 2005, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Ren

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDD DDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!

The Palomino core is four freaking generations old now, and that was the "new" core at the time of that video. That's like showing a crash test of an E21 3-series to say how unsafe BMWs are. Nowadays, whether you have AMD or Intel, if you somehow get possesed and want to remove the heatsink (if you've ever had to put on one of those retaining clips, you know they won't just fall off), your CPU won't fry.

Cruzz563 · August 25th, 2005, 05:28 AM

Le Ren...

thought they would fry. Nice to know they wouldn't tho images/smilies/smile.gif

August 24th, 2005, 09:01 AM	#1
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swek Global Moderator Joined: May 19th, 2004 Last Online: 12:17 PM Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 26 Posts: 4,276 Car: Does a bicycle count? Rep Power: 40	All modern CPU's have overheating protection embedded. That's a problem of the past I believe.

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mpulztracker Joined: Jan 6th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: United Kingdom Posts: 244 Rep Power: 0	I dont think its a problem with the current range of AMD processors .. The power requirements are much lesser than the current pentium class ...and the heat liberation is much less too.

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Tommy Two Shoes Joined: Apr 11th, 2005 Last Online: February 4th, 2007 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	Couple of things about that video...it was obviously trying to prove Intel as the best but it was a particularly fair test. They used two very outdated AMD processors which I believe would have been made before any kind of safety features had been installed to save your CPU. The two Intel's although not perhaps completely up to date are still more advanced and newer than the AMD's. Did you also notice that the temperature sensor was held much closer to the AMD's which would surely increase the temperature reading significantly. There is no way that a Pentium 4 would only be 29 degrees C when you take the Heatsink off, thats just stupid, a CPU has a higher temp. under load even with watercooling...Hmmmm, just a couple of thoughts Tom

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