So I was thinking of buying a new computer

IVIaster · July 9th, 2008, 10:57 AM

So I was thinking of buying a new computer and its first time I do it this way and if you see something horribly wrong please tell, other critizism also welcome. This computer is mainly used for gaming

Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700
Motherboard: Abit IP35 Pro XE
Video Card: Gigabyte Geforce 9800GTX 512Mb
RAM: 2x2Gb DDR2 800Mhz
Memory: Western Digital 500Gb Caviar 16Mb
Chassis: NZXT Hush Silent Black
DVD: LG DVD+/-RW DL 20x
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium (OEM?)
Screen: LG W2242T 22" LCD
+mouse,keyboard,speakers,power supply

This should cost about 1400€

Viper007Bond · July 9th, 2008, 11:08 AM

CPU: quad is overrated IMO. Last I heard, your money is better spend on a dual core.

Video: what's the prices like? 8800 GT will run pretty much every game but Crysis on max settings. I also hear the ATi 4850 is badass and cheaper.

(Memory = RAM, not storage aka hard drives images/smilies/wink.gif

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OS: OEM = tied to your mobo which means you can't transfer it to a new PC. Up to you. Personally I went with Vista Ultimate via... other methods.

prizrak · July 9th, 2008, 12:22 PM

This is not a bad set up at all. I personally wouldn't bother with Vista, XP would run much faster on the box and if you are adamant about buying cost less (are they still selling it though?).

Viper007Bond · July 9th, 2008, 01:07 PM

Vista works fine for me and actually is more stable, but you gotta have 4GB to make real use of it.

Lilleput · July 9th, 2008, 01:37 PM

XP is for handhelds and eepcs

Slycer · July 9th, 2008, 05:00 PM

Quad = Epic

Go for something like Q9450 or Q9650.

You won't notice a frame or two less in games (if that), but you will notice stuff like encoding, decoding and unraring being a LOT faster.

cvrefugee · July 9th, 2008, 06:27 PM

Forget the 9800GTX and get the ATi 4850. I got one for $145 after rebate and it kills most of the cards from Nvidia. Also, I would skip the 500GB HDD and get the Western Digital 640GB (uses two 320GB platters) for must faster throughput and speed.

IVIaster · July 9th, 2008, 08:40 PM

Well the Q9450 cost twice as much as the Q6700 and you only get 0.2 Ghz more.

But which video card will last longer? The 9800 or Ati? My target game is Fallout3 which comes out sometime this fall(hopefully)

Crazyjeeper · July 9th, 2008, 08:44 PM

I would go with the ATI. Remember, the 9800 is an 8800GTS 512 with higher clock speeds. Also, see if the 4870 is in your price range.

Slycer · July 9th, 2008, 09:07 PM

Yeah, people say that 4870 is best buy atm. Buy two and put them in CF. xD

Lilleput · July 9th, 2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Slycer

Yeah, people say that 4870 is best buy atm. Buy two and put them in CF. xD

That won't make sense when the rest of your hardware, there would be a bottleneck somewhere..

prizrak · July 9th, 2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cvrefugee

Forget the 9800GTX and get the ATi 4850. I got one for $145 after rebate and it kills most of the cards from Nvidia. Also, I would skip the 500GB HDD and get the Western Digital 640GB (uses two 320GB platters) for must faster throughput and speed.

If speed is a requirement then a RAID 0 setup is a must.

IVIaster · July 9th, 2008, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prizrak

If speed is a requirement then a RAID 0 setup is a must.

Raid 0?

Slycer · July 9th, 2008, 09:52 PM

You connect two disks of the same size (and type?).

Raid 0 is called stripping. It increases the performance of both disks but if one goes, you lose all your data.

argatoga · July 9th, 2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IVIaster

Raid 0?

Two or more harddrives combined as one. It alternates blocks between the harddrives. Personally I wouldn't bother. Consumer raid controllers (like the Nvidia ones) are just over glorified software raid and will sap your CPU (may not be an issue if you go for a quad set-up). If you want speed from raid buy a dedicated controller (will cost well over $100).

IVIaster · July 10th, 2008, 10:40 AM

So the order is in:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300
Abit IP35P
3D Club Geforce 9800 GTX 512
2 x 2GB 800 Mhz
Western Digital 500 GB Caviar
LG DVD+/- RW DL 20x
NZXT Hush Silent Black
Windows Vista Home Premium
550W

Now I only have to find a suitable screen

cvrefugee · July 10th, 2008, 06:33 PM

Looks like you didn't even listen to any of us, thanks for asking.

Lilleput · July 10th, 2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IVIaster

Now I only have to find a suitable screen

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvrefugee

Looks like you didn't even listen to any of us, thanks for asking.

IVIaster · July 10th, 2008, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvrefugee

Looks like you didn't even listen to any of us, thanks for asking.

Well, yes. images/smilies/tongue.gif

July 9th, 2008, 10:57 AM	#1
IVIaster Not a dude. Joined: Dec 10th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Finland Posts: 941 Car: 1990 Volvo 740 Rep Power: 12	So I was thinking of buying a new computer So I was thinking of buying a new computer and its first time I do it this way and if you see something horribly wrong please tell, other critizism also welcome. This computer is mainly used for gaming Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 Motherboard: Abit IP35 Pro XE Video Card: Gigabyte Geforce 9800GTX 512Mb RAM: 2x2Gb DDR2 800Mhz Memory: Western Digital 500Gb Caviar 16Mb Chassis: NZXT Hush Silent Black DVD: LG DVD+/-RW DL 20x OS: Windows Vista Home Premium (OEM?) Screen: LG W2242T 22" LCD +mouse,keyboard,speakers,power supply This should cost about 1400€ __________________ IVIaster´s gender is currently under review If you think roadtax is a good thing go to www.iamaclot.com

July 9th, 2008, 11:08 AM	#2
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,208 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 224	CPU: quad is overrated IMO. Last I heard, your money is better spend on a dual core. Video: what's the prices like? 8800 GT will run pretty much every game but Crysis on max settings. I also hear the ATi 4850 is badass and cheaper. (Memory = RAM, not storage aka hard drives ) OS: OEM = tied to your mobo which means you can't transfer it to a new PC. Up to you. Personally I went with Vista Ultimate via... other methods. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

July 9th, 2008, 01:07 PM	#4
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,208 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 224	Vista works fine for me and actually is more stable, but you gotta have 4GB to make real use of it. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

July 9th, 2008, 01:37 PM	#5
Lilleput Evo-less Joined: Jun 9th, 2005 Last Online: 07:14 AM Location: United Kingdom of Denmark Age: 25 Posts: 2,760 Car: Ford S-Max Titanium - 268hp Rep Power: 63	XP is for handhelds and eepcs __________________ 04' Evo 8 265hp sold

July 9th, 2008, 08:40 PM	#8
IVIaster Not a dude. Joined: Dec 10th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Finland Posts: 941 Car: 1990 Volvo 740 Rep Power: 12	Well the Q9450 cost twice as much as the Q6700 and you only get 0.2 Ghz more. But which video card will last longer? The 9800 or Ati? My target game is Fallout3 which comes out sometime this fall(hopefully) __________________ IVIaster´s gender is currently under review If you think roadtax is a good thing go to www.iamaclot.com

July 9th, 2008, 12:22 PM	#3
prizrak Joined: Apr 2nd, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Brooklyn, NY Age: 25 Posts: 1,329 Car: Audi A4 1.8T Rep Power: 16	This is not a bad set up at all. I personally wouldn't bother with Vista, XP would run much faster on the box and if you are adamant about buying cost less (are they still selling it though?).

July 9th, 2008, 05:00 PM	#6
Slycer Joined: Jul 24th, 2006 Last Online: July 12th, 2008 Location: Slovenia Age: 21 Posts: 325 Rep Power: 11	Quad = Epic Go for something like Q9450 or Q9650. You won't notice a frame or two less in games (if that), but you will notice stuff like encoding, decoding and unraring being a LOT faster.

July 9th, 2008, 06:27 PM	#7
cvrefugee Joined: Aug 16th, 2004 Last Online: 06:42 AM Location: Corona, CA Age: 27 Posts: 3,222 Car: 2005 Scion xB Rep Power: 48	Forget the 9800GTX and get the ATi 4850. I got one for $145 after rebate and it kills most of the cards from Nvidia. Also, I would skip the 500GB HDD and get the Western Digital 640GB (uses two 320GB platters) for must faster throughput and speed.

July 9th, 2008, 08:44 PM	#9
Crazyjeeper Joined: Nov 29th, 2006 Last Online: 05:53 AM Location: Texas Age: 19 Posts: 1,867 Car: 1985 Jeep CJ7, 1997 Ford F150 Rep Power: 34	I would go with the ATI. Remember, the 9800 is an 8800GTS 512 with higher clock speeds. Also, see if the 4870 is in your price range. __________________ Toy: 1985 Jeep CJ7 Lifted and Locked Daily Driver: 1997 Ford F150 4.6L with a massive 220hp MSI P6N Diamond 680i, E8400 @ 3.0ghz, CM Hyper 212 Cooler, XFX 8800GT 512mb Extreme, MSI 8400GS, Creative X-FI, 2x1gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, PC Power & Cooling 610w EPS12v, 1.6tb of HDD, CM Centurion 690.

July 9th, 2008, 09:07 PM	#10
Slycer Joined: Jul 24th, 2006 Last Online: July 12th, 2008 Location: Slovenia Age: 21 Posts: 325 Rep Power: 11	Yeah, people say that 4870 is best buy atm. Buy two and put them in CF. xD

July 9th, 2008, 09:52 PM	#14
Slycer Joined: Jul 24th, 2006 Last Online: July 12th, 2008 Location: Slovenia Age: 21 Posts: 325 Rep Power: 11	You connect two disks of the same size (and type?). Raid 0 is called stripping. It increases the performance of both disks but if one goes, you lose all your data.

July 10th, 2008, 10:40 AM	#16
IVIaster Not a dude. Joined: Dec 10th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Finland Posts: 941 Car: 1990 Volvo 740 Rep Power: 12	So the order is in: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Abit IP35P 3D Club Geforce 9800 GTX 512 2 x 2GB 800 Mhz Western Digital 500 GB Caviar LG DVD+/- RW DL 20x NZXT Hush Silent Black Windows Vista Home Premium 550W Now I only have to find a suitable screen __________________ IVIaster´s gender is currently under review If you think roadtax is a good thing go to www.iamaclot.com

July 10th, 2008, 06:33 PM	#17
cvrefugee Joined: Aug 16th, 2004 Last Online: 06:42 AM Location: Corona, CA Age: 27 Posts: 3,222 Car: 2005 Scion xB Rep Power: 48	Looks like you didn't even listen to any of us, thanks for asking.