The "New Toys" Thread - Page 201

watto · February 27th, 2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Polly

Yes, jailbreaking opens it for 3rd-Party-Apps, which you need to unlock and activate it.

Another option is to wait for Apple to release the software for developers to develop official 3rd party apps that would then be available from Apple and also approved I guess. Steve Jobs said they'd release the stuff by the end of Feb so he's only got 2 days left to be good on his word...

Viper007Bond · February 27th, 2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Polly

Well, that's about it.

You're confusing jailbreaking and unlocking. Jailbreak = hacking the OS to allow for non-signed applications to be installed. Unlocking = using the iPhone on a non-allowed network, requires jailbreaking AFAIK.

My iPod is jailbroken and because it is, I can install a Last.fm submitter (caches while offline), an IRC client, games (solitaire and blackjack are nice to play while listening to music), an actual background to my apps rather than plain black, etc.

Hell, I can even screenshot:

(I didn't pay for Mail / Maps / etc. and had them long, long before they were released officially)

And no, it doesn't act as a USB mass storage device. If you plug it in with no drivers, it'll only act like a camera.

This is probably to prevent easier hacking of the device, but a lot of good that did. Hell, they're even fucking with the root and stuff now. 1.1.3 is jailbroken via a modified OS.

Not much you can't do to the uber-hackable iPod Touch / iPhone.

watto · February 27th, 2008, 11:52 AM

^Viper, with Mail on my computer I need to install some software that allows Hotmail to speak with it... Can I do this on my (soon to be) Touch? Or will Mail be useless to me unless I have a .mac email...

Polly · February 27th, 2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

You're confusing jailbreaking and unlocking. Jailbreak = hacking the OS to allow for non-signed applications to be installed. Unlocking = using the iPhone on a non-allowed network, requires jailbreaking AFAIK.

That's what I said, isn't it?

janstett · February 27th, 2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IceBone

Well, i want the music to be transfered through explorer as well. When that's available, you know my number.

Xplay, www.mediafour.com

janstett · February 27th, 2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by watto

^Viper, with Mail on my computer I need to install some software that allows Hotmail to speak with it... Can I do this on my (soon to be) Touch? Or will Mail be useless to me unless I have a .mac email...

some webmail providers are on the iPhone built in, gmail & yahoo. For others you have to enable pop access and get it that way.

IceBone · February 27th, 2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by janstett

Xplay, www.mediafour.com

You don't get it. I don't want a program to replace shiTunes. I want the thing to just be recognized as an HDD when i plug it into the usb.

chaos386 · February 27th, 2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by IceBone

You don't get it. I don't want a program to replace shiTunes. I want the thing to just be recognized as an HDD when i plug it into the usb.

Then get a device that acts that way, enjoy it, and forget about the options that others like but that don't meet your needs?

IceBone · February 27th, 2008, 02:51 PM

Pah! I already have such devices. But i want the iPhone, if it'll support that.

Peter3hg · February 27th, 2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Adunaphel

There is a very good reason why the iPod isn't. The iPod has a database that houses all the songs' information like artist, title, album, etc. so you can browse through them. It's much quicker to let your PC build that database when adding songs to it then letting the device index all those songs by itself.

My Sony takes literally 10 seconds to build the database and it only needs to do it once when you have changed what's on it. Then again it has a flash drive rather than a hard drive which probably makes it quicker.

IceBone · February 27th, 2008, 03:28 PM

The iPhone and iPod Touch also have flash memory, i'd say.

Speedtouch · February 27th, 2008, 05:50 PM

HP 1600 Laserjet

Seems awesome so far.

killpanda · February 27th, 2008, 06:03 PM

New iPod mini battery !

Unfortunately, I didn't took a photo of it before putting it into it

Now I'm just waiting for my 16GB CompactFlash card to replace the 4GB Microdrive

watto · February 27th, 2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IceBone

You don't get it. I don't want a program to replace shiTunes. I want the thing to just be recognized as an HDD when i plug it into the usb.

From what I've read on the Touch/Phone is that no, they can't be used as an HDD. Regular iPods can be used as HDD's however. Before I had my external HDD, I had all my Top Gear et al on my iPod.

Buba · February 27th, 2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter3hg

My Sony takes literally 10 seconds to build the database and it only needs to do it once when you have changed what's on it. Then again it has a flash drive rather than a hard drive which probably makes it quicker.

It doesn't have coverflow, though.

BTW: I tried that on a nano and it lagged a lot. The touch I tried didn't, AT ALL. I suppose the iPhone is the same way?

IceBone · February 27th, 2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by watto

From what I've read on the Touch/Phone is that no, they can't be used as an HDD. Regular iPods can be used as HDD's however. Before I had my external HDD, I had all my Top Gear et al on my iPod.

Only a matter of time...

hajj · February 27th, 2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by watto

From what I've read on the Touch/Phone is that no, they can't be used as an HDD. Regular iPods can be used as HDD's however. Before I had my external HDD, I had all my Top Gear et al on my iPod.

You should be able to put any file on the iPhone via AFP (and even ftp??), if music or movies are then recognised and played is another question. The good thing about this is that you can do it without plugging the iPhone into your computer over wifi.

Shawn · February 27th, 2008, 08:59 PM

Oh really? What happened to all your other qualms with the iPhone? Such as lack of 3G and HSDPA and general Apple sucky-ness? Suddenly the only problem you have with the iPhone is the MSC issue?

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Originally Posted by IceBone

But i want the iPhone, if it'll support that.

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