To anyone who downloads 'stuff'....

Shadowness · October 24th, 2007, 06:04 PM

I think I'll just let the stories speak for themselves:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7059881.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/7057812.stm

Step by step, they're clamping down on this!

jensked · October 24th, 2007, 06:07 PM

Well, why don't they battle spam first? Spam targets everyone, not just billion dollar companies.

Anyways, I don't really know what to think of it. I'm a man of principles and on one hand I agree it's theft, but on the other hand...I know some people who download.

Buba · October 24th, 2007, 06:13 PM

Nothing new here... Quicky also posted about oink being shut down... I hope they don't go after the users, even though I only had a couple of self mixed entourage music compilations from there...

I guess they won't bother sifting through almost 200000 users, if they were able to get to the user DB---

Shadowness · October 24th, 2007, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buba

Quicky also posted about oink being shut down...

Soz, didnt know that images/smilies/wacko.gif

It was more a thread on how illegal activities on the net are becoming more frequent in the news.

Final Daihatsu · October 24th, 2007, 07:03 PM

Dynamic IP FTW!!!

Buba · October 24th, 2007, 07:07 PM

While that might help in Israel it doesn't at all in Europe. At least in Germany...

And with the recent few busts: It comes and goes in waves, they raided every major us tvseries site 2 years ago and nothing since...

Well, simply don't use emule or shareaza or bearshare for popular stuff.
Chances are good its gonna be monitored...

Mischief007 · October 24th, 2007, 07:33 PM

Why combat this? I tried to watch Reaper on www.cwtv.com. I can't because I'm not a US citizen. Open up these damn sites so that everybody can watch. Quality is good enough so that you can watch it online. I watch some shows like that without a problem. Corner Gas and TSN being two of them.

They are always alienating themselves because it is better to go after some poor chap and sue them for millions (outright fucking wrong).

Also, I can get cable TV for about $150 a month to get everything that I would like to watch or I can get an Internet connection for $40 per month. Which one will I choose?

Astec123 · October 24th, 2007, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Final Daihatsu

Dynamic IP FTW!!!

You do realise that while a dynamic IP address masks who you actually are when online to others it doesnt mask it from your ISP and their logs. They will have a log of when you got the IP address from and till. So for anyone tracking you and your usage of illegal sites it is not really that much harder to manage. Just a matter of matching the IP address to the time that it was seen downloading and then matching that to the ISPs logs. The only true way to avoid being detected to a 99% certainty is to use applications such as privoxy or other proxy systems.

jensked · October 24th, 2007, 08:01 PM

^ true...dynamic IP doesn't solve anything...

Peer Guardian 2 FTW!

Astec123 · October 24th, 2007, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jensked

^ true...dynamic IP doesn't solve anything...

Peer Guardian 2 FTW!

For the win? You do know that peer guardian and other such software doesn't protect you any more than a dynamic IP address? Peer guardian will not prevent people who have been employed by the record, movie or other industries to siphon IP addresses and times from popular torrents. It has been used in the past to begin cases and I can certainly attest that it will continue.

The only true way to protect your identity is through Anonymous Proxy as I said in my last post. I have never heard of any other truly safe way to protect yourself than this.
However I am of course open to suggestion.

THGL · October 24th, 2007, 09:25 PM

I remember reading a story where the RIAA went after someone for illegal file sharing and the defendant pointed to his "open" wireless network. Since there was no way to prove who was connected to the network at the time in question, the RIAA dropped the case.

Astec123 · October 24th, 2007, 09:38 PM

THGL there may be another case on the topic however the one I think you are talking about was a womans defence claimed that it could of been someone else using a wireless hub that was unsecured. However it recently came to a close (not that I can find anything on it as always) and she was still made liable for the full whack of something to the lines of $200,000+ because it was shown she didnt have at the time a wireless router through the Mac address tracing.

cdbob · October 24th, 2007, 10:12 PM

Well I will keep looking if they do this, I really need my classical music collection to grow, compared to my Rock and Jazz Collection its lacking. Also need some Historical Videos, what are you guys downloading at the moment?

awdrifter · October 24th, 2007, 10:30 PM

The end of the 2nd gen p2p is drawing near with more companies and users gettign sued, we need a similar program to the Japanese P2P program Share or Perfect Dark (or at least translate those two programs to English and promote them to the English speaking users).

Peter3hg · October 24th, 2007, 11:44 PM

I'll continue using Rapidshare until I hear some stories about it.

jayhawk · October 25th, 2007, 12:13 AM

I just do not download popular torrents. If something big comes out, like a movie, I'll just wait a year or so to download it. Same with music. The music I download is a little blip on the radar.

MadCow809 · October 25th, 2007, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter3hg

I'll continue using Rapidshare until I hear some stories about it.

rapidshare is nice, only if you have an account... otherwise its just a pain in the arse. cant download more than one file at a time, and not to mention the cap.

Shawn · October 25th, 2007, 02:07 AM

I don't download any stuff... I get music, shows, movies, programs and porn... but no stuff.

Prost264 · October 25th, 2007, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn

I don't download any stuff... I get music, shows, movies, programs and porn... but no stuff.

That post combined with your avatar made my day.

Shawn · October 25th, 2007, 02:23 AM

^ Victoooooooooooooooooooooooooory!

October 24th, 2007, 06:04 PM	#1
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October 24th, 2007, 06:13 PM	#3
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 6,028 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 40	Nothing new here... Quicky also posted about oink being shut down... I hope they don't go after the users, even though I only had a couple of self mixed entourage music compilations from there... I guess they won't bother sifting through almost 200000 users, if they were able to get to the user DB--- __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

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October 24th, 2007, 07:07 PM	#6
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 6,028 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 40	While that might help in Israel it doesn't at all in Europe. At least in Germany... And with the recent few busts: It comes and goes in waves, they raided every major us tvseries site 2 years ago and nothing since... Well, simply don't use emule or shareaza or bearshare for popular stuff. Chances are good its gonna be monitored... __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

October 24th, 2007, 07:33 PM	#7
Mischief007 Joined: Dec 3rd, 2004 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Age: 27 Posts: 4,393 Car: 2004 GP GTP CompG LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	Why combat this? I tried to watch Reaper on www.cwtv.com. I can't because I'm not a US citizen. Open up these damn sites so that everybody can watch. Quality is good enough so that you can watch it online. I watch some shows like that without a problem. Corner Gas and TSN being two of them. They are always alienating themselves because it is better to go after some poor chap and sue them for millions (outright fucking wrong). Also, I can get cable TV for about $150 a month to get everything that I would like to watch or I can get an Internet connection for $40 per month. Which one will I choose? __________________ 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP CompG 66,750 km - 41,477 miles

October 24th, 2007, 06:07 PM	#2
jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 4,007 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 43	Well, why don't they battle spam first? Spam targets everyone, not just billion dollar companies. Anyways, I don't really know what to think of it. I'm a man of principles and on one hand I agree it's theft, but on the other hand...I know some people who download.

October 24th, 2007, 08:01 PM	#9
jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 4,007 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 43	^ true...dynamic IP doesn't solve anything... Peer Guardian 2 FTW!

October 24th, 2007, 09:25 PM	#11
THGL Joined: Dec 6th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Louisville, KY USA Posts: 376 Car: Volvo 940 Turbo Rep Power: 23	I remember reading a story where the RIAA went after someone for illegal file sharing and the defendant pointed to his "open" wireless network. Since there was no way to prove who was connected to the network at the time in question, the RIAA dropped the case. __________________ "I was sad because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet. So I said, ‘Got any shoes you're not using?’

October 24th, 2007, 09:38 PM	#12
Astec123 Joined: Oct 24th, 2007 Last Online: May 24th, 2008 Location: UK Posts: 12 Car: Astra 1.4ls 1995 Rep Power: 0	THGL there may be another case on the topic however the one I think you are talking about was a womans defence claimed that it could of been someone else using a wireless hub that was unsecured. However it recently came to a close (not that I can find anything on it as always) and she was still made liable for the full whack of something to the lines of $200,000+ because it was shown she didnt have at the time a wireless router through the Mac address tracing.

October 24th, 2007, 10:12 PM	#13
cdbob Joined: Dec 1st, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 18 Posts: 1,522 Car: 1987 Volvo 245 DL (in bc) Rep Power: 16	Well I will keep looking if they do this, I really need my classical music collection to grow, compared to my Rock and Jazz Collection its lacking. Also need some Historical Videos, what are you guys downloading at the moment? __________________ Thanks to everyone who has made sigs for me

October 24th, 2007, 10:30 PM	#14
awdrifter Joined: Aug 29th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Posts: 1,549 Rep Power: 26	The end of the 2nd gen p2p is drawing near with more companies and users gettign sued, we need a similar program to the Japanese P2P program Share or Perfect Dark (or at least translate those two programs to English and promote them to the English speaking users). __________________ TP

October 24th, 2007, 11:44 PM	#15
Peter3hg Joined: May 3rd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Breast Hill Castle, Angleland Age: 19 Posts: 3,832 Car: 2006 Yamaha Fazer LFS Status: Rep Power: 31	I'll continue using Rapidshare until I hear some stories about it. __________________

October 25th, 2007, 12:13 AM	#16
jayhawk Cigar Smoking Man Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 02:04 AM Location: A-Town, Illinois. Age: 33 Posts: 5,115 Car: MY07 G11 WRX-TR WRB. Rep Power: 91	I just do not download popular torrents. If something big comes out, like a movie, I'll just wait a year or so to download it. Same with music. The music I download is a little blip on the radar. __________________ It is nice to have friends like you on this forum. dawn patrol on hungry hate...the mouse police never sleeps.

October 25th, 2007, 02:07 AM	#18
Shawn Lexus? Oh shi- Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: 04:20 AM Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,779 Car: IS250 RWD Rep Power: 93	I don't download any stuff... I get music, shows, movies, programs and porn... but no stuff.

October 25th, 2007, 02:23 AM	#20
Shawn Lexus? Oh shi- Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: 04:20 AM Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,779 Car: IS250 RWD Rep Power: 93	^ Victoooooooooooooooooooooooooory!

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