"Toshiba's HD-DVD going the way of Betamax"

rskrobot · February 15th, 2008, 04:10 PM

http://ca.reuters.com/article/techno...51010520080215

Well it looks like the war is over.

Shawn · February 15th, 2008, 04:31 PM

Hmm, surprising that Sony won out on this one. I guess I can go ahead and invest in a Blu-ray player now that the war is over.

So, any poor saps here actually spent money on HD-DVD equipment?

Greatgraddage · February 15th, 2008, 04:34 PM

My laptop came with a HDDVD drive but I didn't spend any extra on it, in fact I didn't realise it had it till I took delivery.

To me it looks like BluRay won because sony had the money to throw at it. Sony couldn't affod to lose.

rskrobot · February 15th, 2008, 04:42 PM

I think that if Microsoft had thrown in a HD-DVD player with the Xbox, this would have gone on for much longer. The whole reason I got a PS3 was because it came with a Blu-Ray player and was roughly the same price as the Xbox without HD-DVD.

cvrefugee · February 15th, 2008, 05:04 PM

In Dec. '06 I got the HD-DVD add-on for my Xbox 360 (free after gift cards) then a year later I bought my parents the Toshiba HD-A3 ($200) for Christmas since it came with 10 free movies (mine only came with King Kong). Amazon had a B1G1 free HD-DVD deal so I got two more movies and paid only $20. So basically we have 13 movies and 11 of them were free.

Blind_Io · February 15th, 2008, 05:05 PM

I bought an HDDVD player for my 360, but it was on clearance.

I guess I have to buy a damn PS3 now. As soon as I heard NetFlix decided to go BluRay exclusive I knew it was over.

Doesn't mean I have to like it.

chilicoke · February 15th, 2008, 07:11 PM

For those of you who don't follow the Format War, Warner's decision had caused a tidal wave:

-Netflix Dropping HD-DVD High-Def Digest, Engadget HD
-Best Buy's pushing Blu-ray High-Def Digest, Engadget HD
-Leaked NPD numbers show HD DVD hardware sales still trailing Blu-ray Engadget HD
-HD DVD Group Responds to Netflix, Best Buy News High-Def Digest, Engadget HD
-Lionsgate president expects industry to "unite behind Blu-ray" this summer Engadget HD
-Harman Kardon hops on the Blu-ray bandwagon Engadget HD
-Michael Bay on Blu-ray: "Told You So" High-Def Digest, Engadget HD
-Toshiba gearing up to drop HD DVD? High-Def Digest, Engadget HD
-Wal-Mart to Go Blu-ray Exclusive High-Def Digest, Engadget HD

Nielsen VideoScan High-Def market share for week ending February 10th, 2008

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadgethd.com/media/2008/02/nielsen021008.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadgethd.com/media/2008/02/nielsen_list_021008.jpg

BerserkerCatSplat · February 15th, 2008, 07:57 PM

Yep, Time Warner was the breaking point for HD-DVD.

rskrobot · February 15th, 2008, 09:09 PM

Ok it is officially over, Walmart is going all in on Blu-Ray!

http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/15/tech...ex.htm?cnn=yes

LeMans GTR · February 15th, 2008, 10:13 PM

So I guess now buying a PS3 would now be a pretty good investment (well maybe not, but it's cheaper than the other Blue-Ray players nonetheless)

.cmd · February 16th, 2008, 12:02 AM

The thing I really hate about Blu-ray is the name. It would be all right if it had a e in it, but as it is it sounds incredibly stupid.

I wonder if Microsoft's now going to release a Blu-ray player for the 360.

NecroJoe · February 16th, 2008, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn

Hmm, surprising that Sony won out on this one. I guess I can go ahead and invest in a Blu-ray player now that the war is over.

So, any poor saps here actually spent money on HD-DVD equipment?

The past several weeks, there haven't really been any price drops or sales anywhere...I've got $450 in gift cards to burn on a blue-ray player, and I want the following:
1) I have a Samsung TV I LOVE, and would love a new generation Samsung player that doesn't have such mixed reviews
2) I don't want to buy a Sony player...sort of a protest...but it's the best value player out there...but I'd prefer a newer generation player than that same one with the dark blue strip across the front...

Hasn't come up yet...I'm probably end up with the panasonic that's been around $400-$450...

Viper007Bond · February 16th, 2008, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .cmd

The thing I really hate about Blu-ray is the name. It would be all right if it had a e in it, but as it is it sounds incredibly stupid.

I wonder if Microsoft's now going to release a Blu-ray player for the 360.

It's better than HD-DVD IMO.

argatoga · February 16th, 2008, 03:45 AM

I'm glad Blu-Ray won, it is the better standard technology wise. It holds much more data in the same amount of space as a HD disc.

Viper007Bond · February 16th, 2008, 03:46 AM

Well, "better" is subjective.

There were some things that HD-DVD did that was better.

Shawn · February 16th, 2008, 05:11 AM

I thought it was just me, I hate the name too. For one, HD-DVD also uses a blue laser diode, so they could've been Blu-ray. I'm much happier with Bluray, so I think I'm gonna type it that way. But I think a few years down the line when everyone forgets about HD-DVD, we'll just be calling Bluray hi-def DVDs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by .cmd

The thing I really hate about Blu-ray is the name. It would be all right if it had a e in it, but as it is it sounds incredibly stupid.

What I don't get is why would you need as much space as a Bluray disc provides? A one hour 720p rip is about 1 gig, and HD-DVDs hold 15 or 30 gigs, right? That should be more than enough for a few hours of 1080 footage and various bonus features and languages.

Quote:

Originally Posted by argatoga

I'm glad Blu-Ray won, it is the better standard technology wise. It holds much more data in the same amount of space as a HD disc.

argatoga · February 16th, 2008, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn

What I don't get is why would you need as much space as a Bluray disc provides? A one hour 720p rip is about 1 gig, and HD-DVDs hold 15 or 30 gigs, right? That should be more than enough for a few hours of 1080 footage and various bonus features and languages.

With more space you can have a higher bit-rate. This is good for movies with lots of busy scenes. But the main reason I like having more space is for storage, bluray isn't just for movies.

Shawn · February 16th, 2008, 05:24 AM

^ Yeah, it's gonna be sweet when recordable Bluray discs and recorders become affordable. Imagine putting all of Stargate SG-1 on a single disc. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Hidden_Hunter · February 16th, 2008, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argatoga

I'm glad Blu-Ray won, it is the better standard technology wise. It holds much more data in the same amount of space as a HD disc.

yeah that region locking is great technology, I especially love it when they don't release dvd's in region 4 for several years or not at all and then make us pay a premium on disks.

I have both and there is 0 difference in picture quality or sound quality

cdbob · February 16th, 2008, 07:54 AM

Well I can say I predicted this one correctly I knew that the companies would go for technology with more space, to make it harder to burn and with more technology on it to (try to) stop pirating. I am happy its over, sad to see whats going to happen to the companies that supported it, they are going to lose a lot of money.

February 15th, 2008, 04:10 PM	#1
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February 15th, 2008, 05:05 PM	#6
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February 15th, 2008, 07:11 PM	#7
chilicoke Previously Known As profingersk8er Joined: Dec 9th, 2004 Last Online: January 4th, 2009 Location: Irvine, CA USA Posts: 625 Car: '07 Honda S2000 Rep Power: 23	For those of you who don't follow the Format War, Warner's decision had caused a tidal wave: -Netflix Dropping HD-DVD High-Def Digest, Engadget HD -Best Buy's pushing Blu-ray High-Def Digest, Engadget HD -Leaked NPD numbers show HD DVD hardware sales still trailing Blu-ray Engadget HD -HD DVD Group Responds to Netflix, Best Buy News High-Def Digest, Engadget HD -Lionsgate president expects industry to "unite behind Blu-ray" this summer Engadget HD -Harman Kardon hops on the Blu-ray bandwagon Engadget HD -Michael Bay on Blu-ray: "Told You So" High-Def Digest, Engadget HD -Toshiba gearing up to drop HD DVD? High-Def Digest, Engadget HD -Wal-Mart to Go Blu-ray Exclusive High-Def Digest, Engadget HD Nielsen VideoScan High-Def market share for week ending February 10th, 2008 __________________ Danger to manifold!

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BerserkerCatSplat Hormone Induced Joined: Jun 21st, 2005 Last Online: 04:35 AM Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,913 Car: Pimpmobile Rep Power: 73	Yep, Time Warner was the breaking point for HD-DVD. __________________ OSPhoto

February 15th, 2008, 04:31 PM	#2
Shawn Lexus? Oh shi- Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: 04:20 AM Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,779 Car: IS250 RWD Rep Power: 93	Hmm, surprising that Sony won out on this one. I guess I can go ahead and invest in a Blu-ray player now that the war is over. So, any poor saps here actually spent money on HD-DVD equipment?

February 15th, 2008, 04:42 PM	#4
rskrobot Joined: Jun 21st, 2006 Last Online: December 12th, 2008 Location: Canton, GA USA Age: 26 Posts: 308 Car: 05 Scion TC Rep Power: 11	I think that if Microsoft had thrown in a HD-DVD player with the Xbox, this would have gone on for much longer. The whole reason I got a PS3 was because it came with a Blu-Ray player and was roughly the same price as the Xbox without HD-DVD.

February 15th, 2008, 05:04 PM	#5
cvrefugee Joined: Aug 16th, 2004 Last Online: 02:15 AM Location: Corona, CA Age: 28 Posts: 3,450 Car: 2005 Scion xB Rep Power: 60	In Dec. '06 I got the HD-DVD add-on for my Xbox 360 (free after gift cards) then a year later I bought my parents the Toshiba HD-A3 ($200) for Christmas since it came with 10 free movies (mine only came with King Kong). Amazon had a B1G1 free HD-DVD deal so I got two more movies and paid only $20. So basically we have 13 movies and 11 of them were free.

February 15th, 2008, 09:09 PM	#9
rskrobot Joined: Jun 21st, 2006 Last Online: December 12th, 2008 Location: Canton, GA USA Age: 26 Posts: 308 Car: 05 Scion TC Rep Power: 11	Ok it is officially over, Walmart is going all in on Blu-Ray! http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/15/tech...ex.htm?cnn=yes

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LeMans GTR Previously Known As CSL Joined: Dec 20th, 2006 Last Online: 05:13 AM Location: Australia Posts: 1,916 Car: Aston Martin DB9 (In GT4!) Rep Power: 18	So I guess now buying a PS3 would now be a pretty good investment (well maybe not, but it's cheaper than the other Blue-Ray players nonetheless) __________________

February 16th, 2008, 12:02 AM	#11
.cmd Joined: Sep 11th, 2007 Last Online: 05:08 AM Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 136 Rep Power: 6	The thing I really hate about Blu-ray is the name. It would be all right if it had a e in it, but as it is it sounds incredibly stupid. I wonder if Microsoft's now going to release a Blu-ray player for the 360.

February 16th, 2008, 03:45 AM	#14
argatoga Can't Start His Wank Joined: Oct 4th, 2005 Last Online: 02:52 AM Location: Washington State, USA Age: 25 Posts: 2,107 Car: '97 Mustang GT, '78 MG Midget (12a swap) Rep Power: 52	I'm glad Blu-Ray won, it is the better standard technology wise. It holds much more data in the same amount of space as a HD disc.

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Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,086 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 237	Well, "better" is subjective. There were some things that HD-DVD did that was better. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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Shawn Lexus? Oh shi- Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: 04:20 AM Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,779 Car: IS250 RWD Rep Power: 93	^ Yeah, it's gonna be sweet when recordable Bluray discs and recorders become affordable. Imagine putting all of Stargate SG-1 on a single disc.

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cdbob Joined: Dec 1st, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 18 Posts: 1,522 Car: 1987 Volvo 245 DL (in bc) Rep Power: 16	Well I can say I predicted this one correctly I knew that the companies would go for technology with more space, to make it harder to burn and with more technology on it to (try to) stop pirating. I am happy its over, sad to see whats going to happen to the companies that supported it, they are going to lose a lot of money. __________________ Thanks to everyone who has made sigs for me

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