Weird Problem: Computer just stops...

Buba · January 18th, 2006, 06:51 PM

Hey!

I had PC probs all day long, and suspected Powerstrip, as I was playing around a lot with resolutions and stuff...

Anyway, at some point the computer just stops, the screens freezes and I can't do anything about it... To be clear, the PC does still technically run, but it doesn't react.

First thing I thought about was RAM, so I replaced the perfect running 1GB stic with 2 older 256MB ones... lets see how that turns out.

Any other suggestions?

Buba

//edit: Ohh, I forgot. This started to happen, and I just reinstalled, when I was done, it still happend, so its a hardware prob for sure...

jensked · January 18th, 2006, 06:57 PM

you didn't install new hardware then?

Cause I had the same problem two years ago...turned out that my power supply wasn't heavy enough. But if you did not add hardware that stresses your PSU more, what could it be? Virus? conflict trough hardware?

You say you reinstalled? You reinstalled Windows XP? Did you do the recovery or did you fully format your hard drive? and do you have another hard drive (virus on the other drive?)...

Post all your specs...

Buba · January 18th, 2006, 07:43 PM

The system has been running like it was for 1,5 years. Except RAM which was upgraded to 1 GB (one stick) in September
XP 2800+, 9800pro, kt333, 350 WATT PSU (never had a problem...)

Yeah, I COMPLETLY reinstalled it. WITH a full c: format...
Now it seems to work again, or at least its running longer than it has before. But I also unplugged every card in the PC, and changed the RAM back to 2x256 MB, then replugged the dusted off cards...

Maybe a connection was kinda "rusted in" or something, which did cause a problem...

Virus is highly unlikly, since I have Kaspersky AV which updates every hour, and I also had all XP updates installed...

Buba

jensked · January 18th, 2006, 08:12 PM

I remember you got a new tv and you plugged it to your computer? Maybe you plugging in those cables moved the videocard and caused a bad connection?

Quite a shame you had to format c. I hope you backupped. images/smilies/smile.gif

AxlxA · January 18th, 2006, 08:18 PM

Is your heatsink covered with dust?

I had a similar situation happen to me and found out the CPU was overheating from me NEVER cleaning the dust bunnies out of the heat sink cavities.

Buba · January 18th, 2006, 08:27 PM

I do that from time to time, and my CPU never exeeds 48°C... And I reckon it wouldn't just grind to a halt then...
And yes, I backed everthing I need up. Except most of the applications, but that is actually a good thing, since I'm willing to try new things now.

Pretty sure it was the RAM now... Since I plugged the old one in, everything is fine... I guess I'm not gonna leave it running through the night, though images/smilies/wink.gif

Also I don't wanna get it back to my living room since I'm afraid something else might break... Hmm... I had such a nice Highdef evening planned images/smilies/sad.gif

Everything in 720p... Except the new season 24, but that is also hr.hdtv.

xecutioner · January 22nd, 2006, 11:10 AM

i had the same issue

i found out it was my power supply

i was runnin a 350watt and upgraded to ya 550watt and works fine

or like u said it could be ur ram

fluke667 · January 22nd, 2006, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buba

Pretty sure it was the RAM now...

check your ram with memtest86 images/smilies/wink.gif

and you'll only need a 550watt psu on dualcore pcs with sli

Buba · January 22nd, 2006, 12:51 PM

Yeah, I know about Memtest, it was suggested when I probs after buying that RAM stick. It was giving me problems when I ran it with the additional 2x256...
But I guess, I'd rather have a new 1 GB stick sent to me than fiddle around with the old one...

Vette Boss · January 22nd, 2006, 06:53 PM

Clear your CMOS, if you haven't already. This will flush out all the old BIOS settings and allow it to re-detect for your new RAM. Of course, you'll need to go back in and change any settings you had customised, but it's not too difficult overall, the worst bit is getting to the jumper.

All you do is put the jumper on the 2-3 pins for 10sec or so, then put it back on the 1-2 pins, check your motherboard manual for placement of the jumper.

Buba · January 25th, 2006, 01:41 PM

Hmm, weird problem got even weirder...
I finally tested the 1 GB stick with Memtest, since the warrenty people contacted me and asked for a run with it.
Turns out, the RAM is ok, at least 1 run of memtest says that, and their website claims, that obvious problems should have surfaced within 1 run.

I have it running now again, and see if there is any further instability within Windows. Maybe while transport to the living room the stick got a bit loose or never was in its socket solidly...
If it isn't I guess I have to lie to the the guys I bought the stick from, since the issue is obviously RAM related...

Buba

January 18th, 2006, 06:51 PM	#1
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 5,996 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 38	Weird Problem: Computer just stops... Hey! I had PC probs all day long, and suspected Powerstrip, as I was playing around a lot with resolutions and stuff... Anyway, at some point the computer just stops, the screens freezes and I can't do anything about it... To be clear, the PC does still technically run, but it doesn't react. First thing I thought about was RAM, so I replaced the perfect running 1GB stic with 2 older 256MB ones... lets see how that turns out. Any other suggestions? Buba //edit: Ohh, I forgot. This started to happen, and I just reinstalled, when I was done, it still happend, so its a hardware prob for sure... __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

January 18th, 2006, 06:57 PM	#2
jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: November 28th, 2008 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 3,987 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 40	you didn't install new hardware then? Cause I had the same problem two years ago...turned out that my power supply wasn't heavy enough. But if you did not add hardware that stresses your PSU more, what could it be? Virus? conflict trough hardware? You say you reinstalled? You reinstalled Windows XP? Did you do the recovery or did you fully format your hard drive? and do you have another hard drive (virus on the other drive?)... Post all your specs... __________________

January 18th, 2006, 07:43 PM	#3
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 5,996 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 38	The system has been running like it was for 1,5 years. Except RAM which was upgraded to 1 GB (one stick) in September XP 2800+, 9800pro, kt333, 350 WATT PSU (never had a problem...) Yeah, I COMPLETLY reinstalled it. WITH a full c: format... Now it seems to work again, or at least its running longer than it has before. But I also unplugged every card in the PC, and changed the RAM back to 2x256 MB, then replugged the dusted off cards... Maybe a connection was kinda "rusted in" or something, which did cause a problem... Virus is highly unlikly, since I have Kaspersky AV which updates every hour, and I also had all XP updates installed... Buba __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

January 18th, 2006, 08:12 PM	#4
jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: November 28th, 2008 Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 25 Posts: 3,987 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 40	I remember you got a new tv and you plugged it to your computer? Maybe you plugging in those cables moved the videocard and caused a bad connection? Quite a shame you had to format c. I hope you backupped. __________________

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January 18th, 2006, 08:27 PM	#6
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 5,996 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 38	I do that from time to time, and my CPU never exeeds 48°C... And I reckon it wouldn't just grind to a halt then... And yes, I backed everthing I need up. Except most of the applications, but that is actually a good thing, since I'm willing to try new things now. Pretty sure it was the RAM now... Since I plugged the old one in, everything is fine... I guess I'm not gonna leave it running through the night, though Also I don't wanna get it back to my living room since I'm afraid something else might break... Hmm... I had such a nice Highdef evening planned Everything in 720p... Except the new season 24, but that is also hr.hdtv. __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

January 22nd, 2006, 11:10 AM	#7
xecutioner Joined: Aug 7th, 2005 Last Online: November 10th, 2008 Location: melbourne Posts: 61 Car: evo 03 & evo 6.5 Rep Power: 14	i had the same issue i found out it was my power supply i was runnin a 350watt and upgraded to ya 550watt and works fine or like u said it could be ur ram __________________ xbox 360 tags: KGI Monkey KL & xDrunkenM0nkeYx

January 22nd, 2006, 12:51 PM	#9
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 5,996 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 38	Yeah, I know about Memtest, it was suggested when I probs after buying that RAM stick. It was giving me problems when I ran it with the additional 2x256... But I guess, I'd rather have a new 1 GB stick sent to me than fiddle around with the old one... __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

January 22nd, 2006, 06:53 PM	#10
Vette Boss Joined: Nov 14th, 2004 Last Online: 01:56 AM Location: United States, Britain, in time Age: 22 Posts: 2,979 Car: Nissan Altima 3.5-litre SE Rep Power: 34	Clear your CMOS, if you haven't already. This will flush out all the old BIOS settings and allow it to re-detect for your new RAM. Of course, you'll need to go back in and change any settings you had customised, but it's not too difficult overall, the worst bit is getting to the jumper. All you do is put the jumper on the 2-3 pins for 10sec or so, then put it back on the 1-2 pins, check your motherboard manual for placement of the jumper. __________________ 2003 Nissan Altima 3.5SE SHIFT_the future

January 25th, 2006, 01:41 PM	#11
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 5,996 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 38	Hmm, weird problem got even weirder... I finally tested the 1 GB stick with Memtest, since the warrenty people contacted me and asked for a run with it. Turns out, the RAM is ok, at least 1 run of memtest says that, and their website claims, that obvious problems should have surfaced within 1 run. I have it running now again, and see if there is any further instability within Windows. Maybe while transport to the living room the stick got a bit loose or never was in its socket solidly... If it isn't I guess I have to lie to the the guys I bought the stick from, since the issue is obviously RAM related... Buba __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

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