What Console(s) Should I Get?

Ilpav · April 22nd, 2008, 06:24 AM

Ok, I am currently in needing of assistance. I want to buy a PS2 to play Gran Turismo 4. I also want to get a Xbox 360 to play Forza 2 (mostly). Also, because apparently my MOMO Racing Wheel (PC) doesn't work on any consoles, I might have to buy the Logitech DFP (PS2) and a wheel for the 360.

There are two wheels worth talking about for the 360:

The Madcatz MC2

http://media.teamxbox.com/xbox-hardware/ss/51/1141063941.jpg

Microsoft Xbox 360 Wheel

http://assets.xbox.com/en-us/support/_images/Monaco_establishing_sm.jpg

Which one's better?

About the PS2: Should I get the original fat one, or the newer slim one? I heard of overheating issues for the Slim. Are there any performance differences between the two?

I'm kinda in a dilemma because both Forza 2 and GT4 have their advantages and disadvantages over eachother.

I like to do comparison tests and the oval track in GT4 (10 km, I believe) would be perfect. Forza 2 doesn't have that huge oval track does it?

I will most probably be buying these used off of craigslist or something.

On average I found that a Xbox 360 with 2 controllers, racing wheel, and 5 games is around $350. The same bundle for the PS2 (with more games) would cost around $150.

Is the Xbox 360 and Forza 2 really worth $200 more than the PS2 and GT4? I know that Forza 2 has better graphics, but GT4 has that HUGE selection.

Any feedback will be great.

Thanks.

EverydayDriver · April 22nd, 2008, 06:30 AM

I'd go GT4. We literally played GT4 til it broke.

Forza is great, don't get me wrong, but GT4 "feels" more real. (It's not real, sadly).

Go Forza only if you want more supercars and to have car damage. Otherwise, GT4 can entertain indefinitely. Plus it uses the PS2 about as well as possible and will put out a better picture than just about any other PS2 game.

bafranksbro · April 22nd, 2008, 06:35 AM

If you do get the 360 don't get the Madcatz wheel, my Dad got the Xbox version of that and it sucks. The Xbox version is exactly the same except for the colors and the Xbox button on the wheel.

jeffy777 · April 22nd, 2008, 06:37 AM

I like Forza 2, but I don't know if it's worth buying a 360 and wheel just for that one game. If there are other 360 games you are interested in, then I would certainly say get the 360. And yes, Forza 2 has atleast one oval track (maybe more, but I can't recall off the top of my head).

NooDle · April 22nd, 2008, 08:35 AM

First off, don't believe the graph. Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers.

What you want it a PS 2 with GT4. It's super duper awesome.

Xbox 360 means you're buying something Microsoft, and that alone is reason to leave it in stores. Also, it'll kill itself with a RRoD in a while, and while you're waiting for your 3rd Xbox to come back from the store, i'll be pwning your asses in GT4.

Dunno about "slim" or "fat" versions though.

MadCow809 · April 22nd, 2008, 09:22 AM

PS2 + GT4

My mate and I used to smoke weed till like 2 in the morning and just play GT4 the whole night. And we always leave the race in B spec mode when racing those evil endurance races, so no overheating issue with the slim model, at least for me.

GT4 is the shit! Super addictive.

Polly · April 22nd, 2008, 03:05 PM

Get the PS2/GT4, save money and move to PS3/GT5 when it's out.

NooDle · April 22nd, 2008, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polly

Get the PS2/GT4, save money and move to PS3/GT5 when it's out.

Actually thats fantastic advice! A PS3 should drop in price, and it gives you a year or so to drive the crap out of GT4 and wear out the buttons on the controllers.

*checks prices for PS2*

Ironlord · April 22nd, 2008, 03:50 PM

Bah! I don't get all this new-fangled technology. When I were a lad, and we had to get up before we'd gone to bed, and pay t'mill owner to work there, and it was uphill on the way there, and uphill on the way back...

...Mastertronic's Formula 1 Simulator for the ZX Spectrum had a "steering wheel" option - which involved rolling the lid from a tin of Quality Street along the number keys to turn left and right. And it had some proper tracks on it as well. Paul Ricard. The old Silverstone. Österreichring.

*waves walking stick menacingly at those pesky kids*

chaos386 · April 22nd, 2008, 04:38 PM

PS2 slim + GT4 now and 360 + Forza 2 later

If you factor in price drops, the above costs about the same as option #1, but you get both consoles. images/smilies/wink.gif

Susurrate · April 22nd, 2008, 07:14 PM

xbox 360, you can race online.

Crazyjeeper · April 22nd, 2008, 07:18 PM

PS2. GT4 is a lot of fun, just make sure you turn the ASM so it will allow oversteer images/smilies/smile.gif

jeffy777 · April 22nd, 2008, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Susurrate

xbox 360, you can race online.

And Forza 2 is really good online.

emil_t · April 22nd, 2008, 07:34 PM

isn't 350 $ in the price range of the g25 ? don't know if it's compatible

BorHor · April 22nd, 2008, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emil_t

isn't 350 $ in the price range of the g25 ? don't know if it's compatible

More like 250 I think. I think it works with the PS2 also. Not sure if all the functions work though.

Ilpav · April 22nd, 2008, 08:54 PM

I found two different kinds of Logitech DFP wheels. One has the Logitech logo on it and the other has the Gran Turismo logo on it. Are there any differences? Would any of them work on the PC (USB)? If they do, I'll try to trade my MOMO Racing wheel for it.

http://www.midnightbox.com/uploads/product/73c5cced5fc8d26cc420df4d0cedacfd.jpg

http://www.drift.com.ar/images/fotos/%5CLOGITECH_DRIVING_FORCE_PRO.JPG

chaos386 · April 22nd, 2008, 09:07 PM

^I have the one with the GT logo, and it works fine on the PC (I just had to download the drivers first). It even let you adjust how much of the 900° of rotation you wanted, which is perfect for making the wheel's movement match that of the on-screen steering wheel in LFS. images/smilies/smile.gif

chilicoke · April 22nd, 2008, 11:01 PM

They are exactly the same thing, Driving Force Pro was originally released as the offical GT4 wheel, which is why they came with GT logo. Later models have Logitech logo instead.

MadCow809 · April 23rd, 2008, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilpav

I found two different kinds of Logitech DFP wheels. One has the Logitech logo on it and the other has the Gran Turismo logo on it. Are there any differences? Would any of them work on the PC (USB)? If they do, I'll try to trade my MOMO Racing wheel for it.

G25.

Trust me, you won't regret it.

MattD1zzl3 · April 23rd, 2008, 02:49 AM

Xbox and forza 2, dont underestimate the cool factor of swapping the engine and 4wd system into a skyline into a 60's Datsun 240, painting it up in full endurance racing garb, and vanquishing your foes online. Oh yea, and crashing into a wall damages your car realistically, GT4 doesnt have that!

There are plenty of great games for xbox, and the xbox live service is the best thing around (and only 50 bucks a YEAR! 5 dollars a month for a great online service with news, videos, free demos, expansion packs, audio and video chat, you get the point)

Plus there are many great games coming for it, including grand theft auto 4 images/smilies/biggrin.gif

I have the xbox, forza 2 and the microsoft wheel, i love it.

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April 22nd, 2008, 06:37 AM	#4
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: US Age: 27 Posts: 5,633 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 51	I like Forza 2, but I don't know if it's worth buying a 360 and wheel just for that one game. If there are other 360 games you are interested in, then I would certainly say get the 360. And yes, Forza 2 has atleast one oval track (maybe more, but I can't recall off the top of my head). __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

April 22nd, 2008, 09:22 AM	#6
MadCow809 Joined: Feb 23rd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Durban, South Africa / Los Angeles, California Age: 23 Posts: 2,909 Car: 2007 E87 BMW 130i Rep Power: 28	PS2 + GT4 My mate and I used to smoke weed till like 2 in the morning and just play GT4 the whole night. And we always leave the race in B spec mode when racing those evil endurance races, so no overheating issue with the slim model, at least for me. GT4 is the shit! Super addictive. __________________ Supporting : A.Priaulx, Kimi Räikkönen, J.Button, R.Kubica, P.Solberg, M.Hirvonen, J.Plato & M.Jackson FinalGear's Car/Bike Register 08 Currently looking for a car.... 08 Honda Civic Coupe 06 BMW 130i 05 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS 05 Ford Bantam 1.3i 95 Mercedes Benz E320 Sportline Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 3Ghz (333 X 9 @ 1.44v ~ 35°c with ZEROtherm BTF90/92mm Cooler) \| DFI INFINITY P965-S \| Corsair XMS DDR II 800 6 Gb \| GeCube ATi HD3850 512mb @ 800/1000Mhz \| Seagate 160Gb + 500Gb + 500Gb + 750Gb \| LITE-ON 20X DVDRW \| XION 600W PSU \| Logitech Z-2300 \| Logitech MX1000 \| Logitech G25 \| Dual 22" LCD Display @ 3360 x 1050 \| CoolerMaster Centurion 590 \| Vista 64 Ultimate \|

April 22nd, 2008, 04:38 PM	#10
chaos386 .sa = bad driver! Joined: Nov 8th, 2004 Last Online: November 30th, 2008 Location: Paris, France Age: 22 Posts: 3,443 LFS Status: Rep Power: 58	PS2 slim + GT4 now and 360 + Forza 2 later If you factor in price drops, the above costs about the same as option #1, but you get both consoles. __________________ "My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to $3.00 a can. That's almost $21.00 in dog money." -Joe Weinstein

April 22nd, 2008, 07:14 PM	#11
Susurrate Joined: Apr 23rd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: North of Atlanta. Posts: 519 Car: Civic Rep Power: 20	xbox 360, you can race online. __________________ Ask me about microwaving cats for fun and profit.

April 22nd, 2008, 06:24 AM	#1
Ilpav Joined: Sep 3rd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: GTA, Ontario, Canada Age: 19 Posts: 1,128 Car: 1996 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE 3.3L LFS Status: Rep Power: 16	What Console(s) Should I Get? Ok, I am currently in needing of assistance. I want to buy a PS2 to play Gran Turismo 4. I also want to get a Xbox 360 to play Forza 2 (mostly). Also, because apparently my MOMO Racing Wheel (PC) doesn't work on any consoles, I might have to buy the Logitech DFP (PS2) and a wheel for the 360. There are two wheels worth talking about for the 360: The Madcatz MC2 Microsoft Xbox 360 Wheel Which one's better? About the PS2: Should I get the original fat one, or the newer slim one? I heard of overheating issues for the Slim. Are there any performance differences between the two? I'm kinda in a dilemma because both Forza 2 and GT4 have their advantages and disadvantages over eachother. I like to do comparison tests and the oval track in GT4 (10 km, I believe) would be perfect. Forza 2 doesn't have that huge oval track does it? I will most probably be buying these used off of craigslist or something. On average I found that a Xbox 360 with 2 controllers, racing wheel, and 5 games is around $350. The same bundle for the PS2 (with more games) would cost around $150. Is the Xbox 360 and Forza 2 really worth $200 more than the PS2 and GT4? I know that Forza 2 has better graphics, but GT4 has that HUGE selection. Any feedback will be great. Thanks. __________________ "The Ferrari 355. The best car...in the world...ever."- Jeremy Clarkson Last edited by Ilpav; April 22nd, 2008 at 06:31 AM..

April 22nd, 2008, 06:30 AM	#2
EverydayDriver Joined: Feb 23rd, 2008 Last Online: November 18th, 2008 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	I'd go GT4. We literally played GT4 til it broke. Forza is great, don't get me wrong, but GT4 "feels" more real. (It's not real, sadly). Go Forza only if you want more supercars and to have car damage. Otherwise, GT4 can entertain indefinitely. Plus it uses the PS2 about as well as possible and will put out a better picture than just about any other PS2 game.

April 22nd, 2008, 06:35 AM	#3
bafranksbro Joined: Dec 1st, 2007 Last Online: July 18th, 2008 Location: New Hampshire Age: 24 Posts: 598 Car: 98 VW Jetta Rep Power: 12	If you do get the 360 don't get the Madcatz wheel, my Dad got the Xbox version of that and it sucks. The Xbox version is exactly the same except for the colors and the Xbox button on the wheel.

April 22nd, 2008, 08:35 AM	#5
NooDle Joined: Jul 20th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Belgium Age: 27 Posts: 2,628 Car: 2004 Opel Astra 2.2DTI Rep Power: 37	First off, don't believe the graph. Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers. What you want it a PS 2 with GT4. It's super duper awesome. Xbox 360 means you're buying something Microsoft, and that alone is reason to leave it in stores. Also, it'll kill itself with a RRoD in a while, and while you're waiting for your 3rd Xbox to come back from the store, i'll be pwning your asses in GT4. Dunno about "slim" or "fat" versions though.

April 22nd, 2008, 03:05 PM	#7
Polly Joined: Dec 9th, 2006 Last Online: September 7th, 2008 Posts: 999 Rep Power: 30	Get the PS2/GT4, save money and move to PS3/GT5 when it's out.

April 22nd, 2008, 03:50 PM	#9
Ironlord Joined: Jun 1st, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: A dark cave in Sherwood Forest Age: 29 Posts: 606 Rep Power: 31	Bah! I don't get all this new-fangled technology. When I were a lad, and we had to get up before we'd gone to bed, and pay t'mill owner to work there, and it was uphill on the way there, and uphill on the way back... ...Mastertronic's Formula 1 Simulator for the ZX Spectrum had a "steering wheel" option - which involved rolling the lid from a tin of Quality Street along the number keys to turn left and right. And it had some proper tracks on it as well. Paul Ricard. The old Silverstone. Österreichring. waves walking stick menacingly at those pesky kids

April 22nd, 2008, 07:18 PM	#12
Crazyjeeper Joined: Nov 29th, 2006 Last Online: 01:13 AM Location: Texas Age: 19 Posts: 2,497 Car: 1985 Jeep CJ7, 1997 Ford F150 Rep Power: 50	PS2. GT4 is a lot of fun, just make sure you turn the ASM so it will allow oversteer __________________ Toy: 1985 Jeep CJ7 Lifted and Locked Daily Driver: 1997 Ford F150 4.6L with a massive 220hp MSI P6N Diamond 680i, E8400 @ 3.15ghz, CM Hyper 212 Cooler, XFX 8800GT 512mb Extreme, MSI 8400GS, Creative X-FI, 2x1gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800, PC Power & Cooling 610w EPS12v, 1.6tb of HDD, CM Centurion 690.

April 22nd, 2008, 07:34 PM	#14
emil_t Joined: Jul 28th, 2007 Last Online: November 25th, 2008 Posts: 820 Rep Power: 11	isn't 350 $ in the price range of the g25 ? don't know if it's compatible

April 22nd, 2008, 08:54 PM	#16
Ilpav Joined: Sep 3rd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: GTA, Ontario, Canada Age: 19 Posts: 1,128 Car: 1996 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE 3.3L LFS Status: Rep Power: 16	I found two different kinds of Logitech DFP wheels. One has the Logitech logo on it and the other has the Gran Turismo logo on it. Are there any differences? Would any of them work on the PC (USB)? If they do, I'll try to trade my MOMO Racing wheel for it. __________________ "The Ferrari 355. The best car...in the world...ever."- Jeremy Clarkson

April 22nd, 2008, 09:07 PM	#17
chaos386 .sa = bad driver! Joined: Nov 8th, 2004 Last Online: November 30th, 2008 Location: Paris, France Age: 22 Posts: 3,443 LFS Status: Rep Power: 58	^I have the one with the GT logo, and it works fine on the PC (I just had to download the drivers first). It even let you adjust how much of the 900° of rotation you wanted, which is perfect for making the wheel's movement match that of the on-screen steering wheel in LFS. __________________ "My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to $3.00 a can. That's almost $21.00 in dog money." -Joe Weinstein

April 22nd, 2008, 11:01 PM	#18
chilicoke Previously Known As profingersk8er Joined: Dec 9th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Irvine, CA USA Posts: 625 Car: '07 Honda S2000 Rep Power: 23	They are exactly the same thing, Driving Force Pro was originally released as the offical GT4 wheel, which is why they came with GT logo. Later models have Logitech logo instead. __________________ Danger to manifold!