Windows Vista (Farewell Windows XP my trusty old friend)

flyingfridge · June 10th, 2006, 10:05 AM

Well, after a full 5 years using Windows XP, today was the day I put my old friend out to pasture. It's the longest I've ever committed to an Operating System, and it never let me down once. I know most of you will find this hard to believe, but the only BSODs I ever got were ones that I caused intentionally (ah the joys of stuffing around with drivers that you aren't supposed to) and I never once got a virus. I used it in all of its various guises, of course the latest, Media Center Edition 2005 was the best, but now, it's time for it to retire.

So here I am, not an hour into my life with Vista and I have everything set up pretty much how I like it. Which is impressive because I'm picky. I guess the first thing you notice about Vista is the interface. God its beautiful. The screenshots do make it look nice, but you won't fully understand where I'm coming from until you use it. The animation and effects are gorgeous. And they don't make you any less productive by taking up time either, they're just nicely integrated into the Windows experience that we are all very familiar with.

My advice: If you're a bit tech savvy get Windows Vista Beta 2. Even if you don't want to run it natively, at least get it and set up a dual boot set up so you can at least see what all the fuss is about. It really is very good. Not as good as Microsoft initially promised, but that doesn't stop it from being a huge leap forward. Anyway, it's free to download to anyone, and you have free use of Beta 2 and Release Candidate 1 when it's released until July 1 2007. Vista Website Here

My Advice 2: The first thing you want to do when you install it is to remove UAC (User Account Protection) It's a true pain in the arse. You'll find the disabler in your user account settings.

bone · June 10th, 2006, 10:17 AM

you bought it? of "found" one?

mgkdk · June 10th, 2006, 10:37 AM

^ It's free to download from microsoft images/smilies/wink.gif

Viper007Bond · June 10th, 2006, 10:52 AM

I'm wanting to do a dual boot, but I'm clueless. So I'll just try and clear up some space on another hard drive soon.

And I don't wanna leave XP until I can confirm there's no incompatibility issues, not to mention I don't want the demo version to expire before I can pick up a legit copy. images/smilies/wink.gif

bone · June 10th, 2006, 11:04 AM

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not to mention I don't want the demo version to expire before I can pick up a legit copy. images/smilies/wink.gif

ah crap, i knew that it sounded to good to be true

Viper007Bond · June 10th, 2006, 11:27 AM

It's meant for IT guys to use to test and stuff. I highly doubt it'll last forever.

flyingfridge · June 10th, 2006, 11:48 AM

Demo version runs until July 1 2007.

It's surprisingly stable so far, it isn't as fast as it should be, it's a little bit behind Win XP, but obviously that'll be fixed before final release. I'm happy that I migrated so far...

If you want to dual boot, just install it as normal on a different partition. The Windows Setup will take care of the rest.

SL65 · June 10th, 2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bone

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not to mention I don't want the demo version to expire before I can pick up a legit copy. images/smilies/wink.gif

ah crap, i knew that it sounded to good to be true

X2...

...but

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Originally Posted by flyingfridge

Demo version runs until July 1 2007.

But still, it takes too long for me to change OS so I'll wait a few years as I'm happy with XP currently.

MXM · June 10th, 2006, 12:58 PM

If it ain't broken, don't fix it..

Still using win 2000 and I see no reason to even go to XP. Everything works images/smilies/smile.gif

AxlxA · June 10th, 2006, 03:23 PM

lol win2k is bad on my syste. bsod often. Xp though has never blue screened unless i was doing something outrageous like not cleaning the dust bunnies out of my heatsink on my cpu hsf for 3 years. Yea that was my fault.

I've tried the earlier beta release of vista and it was laggy as hell. and who knows if it's compatable with games yet.

TechZ · June 10th, 2006, 04:08 PM

I'll wait till mid-late 2007 before I go Vista full on, maybe dual boot before that, cause my new PC will be up and running then images/smilies/biggrin.gif

ESPNSTI · June 10th, 2006, 05:05 PM

Have you tried the speech recognition yet? Is it any good?

Raven18940 · June 10th, 2006, 06:14 PM

Any of you linux guru's know how to kill GRUB, it's stuck on the MBR of my second hard drive and I can't seem to kill it. I'll get no Vista love til I can fix that. images/smilies/sad.gif

frosty · June 10th, 2006, 07:49 PM

Run "Recovery system mode" under Win XP (press F8 at the start of booting) and then try to fix it with "fixmbr" command. It should help but I can't guarantee.

Raven18940 · June 11th, 2006, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by frosty

Run "Recovery system mode" under Win XP (press F8 at the start of booting) and then try to fix it with "fixmbr" command. It should help but I can't guarantee.

Nah, that wouldn't do it, tried it already. What actually fixed it was making a dos boot disk and running fdisk to delete non-dos partitions. images/smilies/wacko.gif

Well it's installing now so we'll see what 64-bit computing is like. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Viper007Bond · June 11th, 2006, 02:31 AM

Downloading Vista now. images/smilies/smile.gif

I'm gonna format in a couple days, so before I do, I'll just install Vista over XP.

flyingfridge · June 11th, 2006, 05:37 AM

Windows Vista Day 2: Impressions on living with Vista for a day. So far it's going pretty well. It's slow in 1 or 2 spots but overall better than I expected. The vista version of IE7 is a shitload better than the XP version and I reckon it's probably better than firefox too, which is a surprise. iTunes clashes with the Aero interface so i cant use it if i want the snazzy glass effect and windows media player 11 wont add any files to the library at all. There's also a region glitch with the xbox 360 media extender, but i believe microsoft have noted that to be a bug and are going to fix it. American 360 consoles won't have such troubles. other than that, it's going very excellent

jeffy777 · June 11th, 2006, 06:22 AM

Slow in a couple spots? Is this something that should be worked out before it officially launches? One thing about XP is that it's not boggy, so I don't want to switch to something that is.

flyingfridge · June 11th, 2006, 07:46 AM

don't get me wrong, it's not boggy. it's just a little laggy when you do one or two things. really, so far it's very stable. especially for a beta. I have daemon tools 3.33 running now too

jeffy777 · June 11th, 2006, 09:01 AM

Just out of curiousity, when does it get laggy?

June 10th, 2006, 10:05 AM	#1
flyingfridge Joined: Jul 1st, 2005 Last Online: November 29th, 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 23 Posts: 2,334 Car: R33 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec, Ford Territory TS Rep Power: 19	Windows Vista (Farewell Windows XP my trusty old friend) Well, after a full 5 years using Windows XP, today was the day I put my old friend out to pasture. It's the longest I've ever committed to an Operating System, and it never let me down once. I know most of you will find this hard to believe, but the only BSODs I ever got were ones that I caused intentionally (ah the joys of stuffing around with drivers that you aren't supposed to) and I never once got a virus. I used it in all of its various guises, of course the latest, Media Center Edition 2005 was the best, but now, it's time for it to retire. So here I am, not an hour into my life with Vista and I have everything set up pretty much how I like it. Which is impressive because I'm picky. I guess the first thing you notice about Vista is the interface. God its beautiful. The screenshots do make it look nice, but you won't fully understand where I'm coming from until you use it. The animation and effects are gorgeous. And they don't make you any less productive by taking up time either, they're just nicely integrated into the Windows experience that we are all very familiar with. My advice: If you're a bit tech savvy get Windows Vista Beta 2. Even if you don't want to run it natively, at least get it and set up a dual boot set up so you can at least see what all the fuss is about. It really is very good. Not as good as Microsoft initially promised, but that doesn't stop it from being a huge leap forward. Anyway, it's free to download to anyone, and you have free use of Beta 2 and Release Candidate 1 when it's released until July 1 2007. Vista Website Here My Advice 2: The first thing you want to do when you install it is to remove UAC (User Account Protection) It's a true pain in the arse. You'll find the disabler in your user account settings. __________________ 1/4 Mile: 12.426 (Calder Park) Winton: 1'42.340 Sandown: 1'27.179 "The old Skyline GT-R felt exciting even when it was in a carwash." - Jeremy Clarkson "Those who know GT-Rs can't explain. Those who don't cannot understand." - frankiess AustralianGamer.com

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Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,988 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 234	I'm wanting to do a dual boot, but I'm clueless. So I'll just try and clear up some space on another hard drive soon. And I don't wanna leave XP until I can confirm there's no incompatibility issues, not to mention I don't want the demo version to expire before I can pick up a legit copy. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,988 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 234	It's meant for IT guys to use to test and stuff. I highly doubt it'll last forever. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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flyingfridge Joined: Jul 1st, 2005 Last Online: November 29th, 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 23 Posts: 2,334 Car: R33 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec, Ford Territory TS Rep Power: 19	Demo version runs until July 1 2007. It's surprisingly stable so far, it isn't as fast as it should be, it's a little bit behind Win XP, but obviously that'll be fixed before final release. I'm happy that I migrated so far... If you want to dual boot, just install it as normal on a different partition. The Windows Setup will take care of the rest. __________________ 1/4 Mile: 12.426 (Calder Park) Winton: 1'42.340 Sandown: 1'27.179 "The old Skyline GT-R felt exciting even when it was in a carwash." - Jeremy Clarkson "Those who know GT-Rs can't explain. Those who don't cannot understand." - frankiess AustralianGamer.com

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Raven18940 Joined: Apr 16th, 2005 Last Online: February 19th, 2007 Location: PA, USA Posts: 633 Rep Power: 0	Any of you linux guru's know how to kill GRUB, it's stuck on the MBR of my second hard drive and I can't seem to kill it. I'll get no Vista love til I can fix that. __________________ 2001 Saab 9-5 aero....don't laugh, it's fast.

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frosty Joined: May 9th, 2006 Last Online: December 24th, 2007 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Run "Recovery system mode" under Win XP (press F8 at the start of booting) and then try to fix it with "fixmbr" command. It should help but I can't guarantee.

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Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,988 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 234	Downloading Vista now. I'm gonna format in a couple days, so before I do, I'll just install Vista over XP. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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flyingfridge Joined: Jul 1st, 2005 Last Online: November 29th, 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 23 Posts: 2,334 Car: R33 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec, Ford Territory TS Rep Power: 19	*Windows Vista Day 2:* Impressions on living with Vista for a day. So far it's going pretty well. It's slow in 1 or 2 spots but overall better than I expected. The vista version of IE7 is a shitload better than the XP version and I reckon it's probably better than firefox too, which is a surprise. iTunes clashes with the Aero interface so i cant use it if i want the snazzy glass effect and windows media player 11 wont add any files to the library at all. There's also a region glitch with the xbox 360 media extender, but i believe microsoft have noted that to be a bug and are going to fix it. American 360 consoles won't have such troubles. other than that, it's going very excellent __________________ 1/4 Mile: 12.426 (Calder Park) Winton: 1'42.340 Sandown: 1'27.179 "The old Skyline GT-R felt exciting even when it was in a carwash." - Jeremy Clarkson "Those who know GT-Rs can't explain. Those who don't cannot understand." - frankiess AustralianGamer.com

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flyingfridge Joined: Jul 1st, 2005 Last Online: November 29th, 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 23 Posts: 2,334 Car: R33 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec, Ford Territory TS Rep Power: 19	don't get me wrong, it's not boggy. it's just a little laggy when you do one or two things. really, so far it's very stable. especially for a beta. I have daemon tools 3.33 running now too __________________ 1/4 Mile: 12.426 (Calder Park) Winton: 1'42.340 Sandown: 1'27.179 "The old Skyline GT-R felt exciting even when it was in a carwash." - Jeremy Clarkson "Those who know GT-Rs can't explain. Those who don't cannot understand." - frankiess AustralianGamer.com

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jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: US Age: 27 Posts: 5,633 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 51	Just out of curiousity, when does it get laggy? __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."