Windows Vista (Farewell Windows XP my trusty old friend) - Page 3

Raven18940 · June 13th, 2006, 04:28 AM

search for the IE 7 beta 2

jayjaya29 · June 13th, 2006, 04:35 AM

I think I may give this a try next week.

Should I go with the 64-bit version? Or stick with the regular?

Raven18940 · June 13th, 2006, 04:42 AM

Regular IMO. There's nothing 64-bit yet besides IE 7 and everything that's 32-bit doesn't run all that well. Plus you'll find yourself with more driver issues as well.

andyhui01 · June 13th, 2006, 05:00 AM

woohoo... working now, downloading at 2.5mbyte a sec!! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

flyingfridge · June 13th, 2006, 05:37 AM

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Flip3D looks very impressive!! images/smilies/smile.gif

That'll favour me heaps cos I'm a big multi-tasker. What I will need before I ever get Vista is more RAM though...

The progress box looks much better. That's been a weak spot of Windows forever until now.

So is there anyway I can use the new Vista Internet Explorer on my XP? Probably not, but if there is a way...let us know because I'm real keen to give it a go. My current browser is giving me the shits.

I tried the IE7 beta in XP quite a while ago. To be honest with you, it's terrible. I don't know what it is, but IE7 just doesn't seem to work very will in Windows XP. In Vista however, it just feels different. I don't know why because they're essentially the same, but the Vista version is better somehow.

matt2000 · June 13th, 2006, 11:17 AM

i'm going to try this. XP is a mess on my machine, so this should buy me some time. can anyone talk me through setting up a dual boot. images/smilies/smile.gif

hokiethang · June 13th, 2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven18940

Regular IMO. There's nothing 64-bit yet besides IE 7 and everything that's 32-bit doesn't run all that well. Plus you'll find yourself with more driver issues as well.

I agree with this. I've tested both the x86 and the x64 versions, and driver support for the x64 version is just as bad as it was for XP x64. Nothing really takes advantage of 64-bit yet, so I'd say save yourself the headache and install the 32-bit version.

flyingfridge · June 13th, 2006, 11:23 AM

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i'm going to try this. XP is a mess on my machine, so this should buy me some time. can anyone talk me through setting up a dual boot. images/smilies/smile.gif

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/edit: downloading it now at 450kb/s...and they said something about a waiting cue? 8) I have to format my hd anyway (its broken, i'm getting a new one), so i will try to install both XP and Vista. on different partitions. Is that doable without too much ado?

Yeah that dual booting is easy. just set up your partitions, install XP first, Vista second as normal and Windows Setup will take care of the rest

matt2000 · June 13th, 2006, 12:00 PM

that's the problem though, i won't be re-formatting my HD. is there any way i can aprtition my drive without that. i might just have to install it on my old 40GB HD instead. thanks for the help though

flyingfridge · June 13th, 2006, 02:42 PM

^^ use a program called partition magic

andyhui01 · June 13th, 2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by matt2000

that's the problem though, i won't be re-formatting my HD. is there any way i can aprtition my drive without that. i might just have to install it on my old 40GB HD instead. thanks for the help though

just remember this, if you do this it will be a pain in the ass to do dualboot as everytime you want to change OS, you have to change boot priority on the BIOS. The same thing happened to my bro

jayjaya29 · June 13th, 2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven18940

Regular IMO. There's nothing 64-bit yet besides IE 7 and everything that's 32-bit doesn't run all that well. Plus you'll find yourself with more driver issues as well.

I agree with this. I've tested both the x86 and the x64 versions, and driver support for the x64 version is just as bad as it was for XP x64. Nothing really takes advantage of 64-bit yet, so I'd say save yourself the headache and install the 32-bit version.

Thanks guys, I'll go with the 32-bit version.

flyingfridge · June 13th, 2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by matt2000

that's the problem though, i won't be re-formatting my HD. is there any way i can aprtition my drive without that. i might just have to install it on my old 40GB HD instead. thanks for the help though

just remember this, if you do this it will be a pain in the ass to do dualboot as everytime you want to change OS, you have to change boot priority on the BIOS. The same thing happened to my bro

No you don't. What you do is you set up your partitions, Install Windows XP (always the older version first). some of you will have a pre-existing install, so just resize your partitions with partition magic. Then, simply install the newer version of Windows, in this case vista but it works with XP as well onto the new partition. The Windows installer will recognise the Boot Record from the older version of windows and create a bootloader so that when you boot up your computer you get to choose which Installation you want. I've been doing this for years, I originally did it with windows 98 and windows XP in 2001, and most of the time my computer has had 2 operating systems on it ever since. Now is one of the few times that i'm only running one. I still have a small partition spare if i need to change that though.

Greatgraddage · June 13th, 2006, 04:56 PM

I think he means when you use a seperate hard drive rather than partitions.

andyhui01 · June 13th, 2006, 05:02 PM

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I think he means when you use a seperate hard drive rather than partitions.

yup.. I think matt was talking about putting a new HD into the computer and putting Vista on it

matt2000 · June 13th, 2006, 05:10 PM

i'll just clear this up. i have 2 HDs in my PC. one is a new 120GB and the other is the original 40GB. i use the 40 for video capture. but i was going to install vista on that to save the partition prob, as i can tell my pc to scan all drives for boot records. cheers for the info fridge, i'll download that program

Raven18940 · June 13th, 2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by flyingfridge

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG~V12~612BHP!!!!!!!

Flip3D looks very impressive!! images/smilies/smile.gif

That'll favour me heaps cos I'm a big multi-tasker. What I will need before I ever get Vista is more RAM though...

The progress box looks much better. That's been a weak spot of Windows forever until now.

So is there anyway I can use the new Vista Internet Explorer on my XP? Probably not, but if there is a way...let us know because I'm real keen to give it a go. My current browser is giving me the shits.

I tried the IE7 beta in XP quite a while ago. To be honest with you, it's terrible. I don't know what it is, but IE7 just doesn't seem to work very will in Windows XP. In Vista however, it just feels different. I don't know why because they're essentially the same, but the Vista version is better somehow.

dude...you're crazy...it's exactly the same images/smilies/wacko.gif

Finally got vista on my RAID 0 setup and that seems to have cleared up a lot of my speed issues. Damn IBM Deskstar. *kicks* images/smilies/mad.gif

andyhui01 · June 13th, 2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by matt2000

i'll just clear this up. i have 2 HDs in my PC. one is a new 120GB and the other is the original 40GB. i use the 40 for video capture. but i was going to install vista on that to save the partition prob, as i can tell my pc to scan all drives for boot records. cheers for the info fridge, i'll download that program

partition magic is a solution as well... but I still advise you to backup your data first as I know several people who's partition magic screwed up and the HD had to be reformatted.

and on a side note: My vista is working, I've installed it on 3 computers in my house so far images/smilies/biggrin.gif

, the speech thing is awesome images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Raven18940 · June 13th, 2006, 06:29 PM

Well I had to shut down Aero, neither Microsoft or Nvidia have drivers that work properly yet. I have faith that Nvidia will have the drivers sorted by the end of the month though. Now, it's blazing fast. images/smilies/lol.gif

flyingfridge · June 13th, 2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Greatgraddage

I think he means when you use a seperate hard drive rather than partitions.

yup.. I think matt was talking about putting a new HD into the computer and putting Vista on it

I know it's been cleared up, but I'll just clear up any remaining confusion. It doesn't matter if you have more than one HD. If you install Win XP on one, leave it plugged in, then install vista on the other, Windows setup will still set up a bootloader. Essentially two hard drives are still just two partitions. there is an MBR on each partition and Windows setup recognises them equally and sorts it out for you.

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Raven18940 Joined: Apr 16th, 2005 Last Online: February 19th, 2007 Location: PA, USA Posts: 633 Rep Power: 0	Regular IMO. There's nothing 64-bit yet besides IE 7 and everything that's 32-bit doesn't run all that well. Plus you'll find yourself with more driver issues as well. __________________ 2001 Saab 9-5 aero....don't laugh, it's fast.

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matt2000 Hedgehog Sandwich Joined: Feb 17th, 2006 Last Online: 12:10 AM Location: Market Harborough, UK Age: 18 Posts: 3,682 Car: '77 Land Rover Series III LFS Status: Rep Power: 56	that's the problem though, i won't be re-formatting my HD. is there any way i can aprtition my drive without that. i might just have to install it on my old 40GB HD instead. thanks for the help though __________________ 'I've spoken to the scientist in that article. He is convinced that the parrot is "just resting".' - Plissken "My daughter has... errr HAD one, and I was given one" - Scott

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matt2000 Hedgehog Sandwich Joined: Feb 17th, 2006 Last Online: 12:10 AM Location: Market Harborough, UK Age: 18 Posts: 3,682 Car: '77 Land Rover Series III LFS Status: Rep Power: 56	i'll just clear this up. i have 2 HDs in my PC. one is a new 120GB and the other is the original 40GB. i use the 40 for video capture. but i was going to install vista on that to save the partition prob, as i can tell my pc to scan all drives for boot records. cheers for the info fridge, i'll download that program __________________ 'I've spoken to the scientist in that article. He is convinced that the parrot is "just resting".' - Plissken "My daughter has... errr HAD one, and I was given one" - Scott

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Raven18940 Joined: Apr 16th, 2005 Last Online: February 19th, 2007 Location: PA, USA Posts: 633 Rep Power: 0	Well I had to shut down Aero, neither Microsoft or Nvidia have drivers that work properly yet. I have faith that Nvidia will have the drivers sorted by the end of the month though. Now, it's blazing fast. __________________ 2001 Saab 9-5 aero....don't laugh, it's fast.