Donations / Subscriptions: Need Your Input - Page 2

Viper007Bond · November 30th, 2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaveDogg

^True story. How would we send the $? I don't have PayPal images/smilies/sad.gif

PayPal would be the only method (as it's the only type of account I have) and you don't need an account to use it -- just a credit card. You will need an account though if you want to use your bank account as I do though.

Cobol74 · November 30th, 2007, 11:59 PM

"Where do I sign", I'd like a life membership option too please. I like the "something extra" too and actually getting the FTPs out of the way would be a good idea as the passwords seem to get too well known too quickly causing issues for 95 etc. My twopenneth. May get issues with banning - got to think about that, get someone who subscribes behaving badly and gets banned may want his money back - Mr Litigation here we come. Get a "legal eagle" to look over the agreement.

Quiky · December 1st, 2007, 01:37 AM

Example ideas:
1) Money/Monies/Currency/Moolah is non-refundable.
2) Donations are not a cloak of invisibility/invincibility - You have to follow the same rules on the site as everyone else. Do not send monies and expect a special rank/status on the site (Admin, Mod, Arms Dealer, Drug Trafficker).
3) Donations perks are virtual goods.

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Btw, FinalGear bumper magnets? images/smilies/biggrin.gif

hokiethang · December 1st, 2007, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Quiky

Btw, FinalGear bumper magnets? images/smilies/biggrin.gif

I want one images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Gman333-X-ferrari · December 1st, 2007, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Quiky

Btw, FinalGear bumper magnets? images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Yes!...yes!...get them! But how about those of us with a carbon fiber bumper? images/smilies/tongue.gif

McLightning95 · December 1st, 2007, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Quiky

Btw, FinalGear bumper magnets? images/smilies/biggrin.gif

*coughmyideacough* images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Not that I care or anything.... images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Quiky · December 1st, 2007, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by McLightning95

*coughmyideacough* images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Not that I care or anything.... images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

You said stickers, I said magnets. Your bumper is plastic, so shush! images/smilies/tongue.gif

McLightning95 · December 1st, 2007, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Quiky

You said stickers, I said magnets. Your bumper is plastic, so shush! images/smilies/tongue.gif

Ok, so it was half my idea. And your bumper is plastic too! So don't give me that. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Peter3hg · December 1st, 2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobol74

"Where do I sign", I'd like a life membership option too please. I like the "something extra" too and actually getting the FTPs out of the way would be a good idea as the passwords seem to get too well known too quickly causing issues for 95 etc. My twopenneth. May get issues with banning - got to think about that, get someone who subscribes behaving badly and gets banned may want his money back - Mr Litigation here we come. Get a "legal eagle" to look over the agreement.

If it's a donation rather than a subscription then there is no problem. The money has been given with no obligations to receive anything in return.
Anyway I'm in if it isn't silly money. $50 a year sounds OK to me, especially with the weak dollar images/smilies/tongue.gif

thedguy · December 1st, 2007, 11:05 AM

I know on some other forums you can pay to give someone ELSE a title (obviously it has to meet forum rules). This way the current system of titles is not really ruined.

MXM · December 1st, 2007, 11:44 AM

I'm very much against any kind of perks. It's nice to give them recognition, but as Jay said, I'd hate to see people who donate feel like they have more rights than others. Ideally it'd be anonymous, but it's not a solution in the reality.

Private forum isn't such a great idea in my mind either. Rennlist did that a while ago, making offtopic accessible only for "paying members", and that's when I stopped visiting it. I'm not against donating, but I hate to be forced to do so, especially since I wasn't that active there, mostly lurking.
So what I'm trying to say is that donations shouldn't be driven by rewards and they shouldn't create a pressure for non-paying people (except moral images/smilies/smile.gif

).

Also, what would you do if someone deserves a ban? Don't you think this will bring a lot more complications if someone is banned after donating? I think this should be made very clear, that donations are nothing more than that. You're not "buying" a custom title, access to forums or anything like that (ok, that's basicly what Quiky said in his rule 2).

Viper007Bond · December 1st, 2007, 12:00 PM

Hmm, some valid points. I don't want this forum turning into cliques.

I may just go with a generic "Donate" button not tied to the forums and call it at that.

Gman333-X-ferrari · December 1st, 2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Hmm, some valid points. I don't want this forum turning into cliques.

I may just go with a generic "Donate" button not tied to the forums and call it at that.

That would be the best idea, IMO.

IceBone · December 1st, 2007, 01:57 PM

Maybe we could get proper decals instead of bumper magnets? Or maybe both, why not? For the summer gettogether roadtrip i was thinking of getting easy to remove finalgear and "davos-to-stelvio or bust" decals for all the cars. images/smilies/thumbup.gif

Mischief007 · December 1st, 2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Hmm, some valid points. I don't want this forum turning into cliques.

I may just go with a generic "Donate" button not tied to the forums and call it at that.

Austere · December 1st, 2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Hmm, some valid points. I don't want this forum turning into cliques.

I may just go with a generic "Donate" button not tied to the forums and call it at that.

A simple donate button would certainly be a hell of a lot easier from your standpoint. Remember all the talk before the implementation of the reputation feature? Everybody got a good chance to ask questions and sort things out well before it came into effect... and how smoothly has that gone? How easy has it been for you?

I'm not shitting on the rep feature, I'm just saying that the donation system won't just involve little green blobs - It'll involve peoples money. I'm sure a lot of people will expect a little something of their own for the money they gave. It could be something as simple as their own title or custom username but it could be power, influence, protection... I think I made it sound like a Scorsese film but you see what I'm saying. images/smilies/lol.gif

Just to float an idea:

I remember when I ordered a few things from rotten.com and homestarrunner.com and they threw in some cool swag. I got a dozen or so Rotten stickers from them and a key chain and bottle opener from the Chapman brothers. Maybe you could get some FinalGear bumper stickers, buttons, beer coolers etc - you know; cheap crap. And then say something like "first few dozen donations receive free swag!".... Or something like that.

wooflepoof · December 11th, 2007, 04:02 AM

If you throw in a Viperbond Action figure keychain/bottle opener, I'm in. Personally I don't need or want perks I've spent more time here than on any videogame and class at school and I basically pay $250 a day for those. $50 p/year is the least I can do for this place images/smilies/love.gif

November 30th, 2007, 11:59 PM	#22
Cobol74 Joined: Mar 21st, 2006 Last Online: 12:18 AM Location: Southampton Posts: 6,217 Car: Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 TDI Slush box. Rep Power: 58	"Where do I sign", I'd like a life membership option too please. I like the "something extra" too and actually getting the FTPs out of the way would be a good idea as the passwords seem to get too well known too quickly causing issues for 95 etc. My twopenneth. May get issues with banning - got to think about that, get someone who subscribes behaving badly and gets banned may want his money back - Mr Litigation here we come. Get a "legal eagle" to look over the agreement. __________________

December 1st, 2007, 01:37 AM	#23
Quiky You know you want me.. Joined: Aug 21st, 2005 Last Online: 03:31 AM Posts: 2,296 LFS Status: Rep Power: 169	Example ideas: 1) Money/Monies/Currency/Moolah is non-refundable. 2) Donations are not a cloak of invisibility/invincibility - You have to follow the same rules on the site as everyone else. Do not send monies and expect a special rank/status on the site (Admin, Mod, Arms Dealer, Drug Trafficker). 3) Donations perks are virtual goods. ----- Btw, FinalGear bumper magnets? __________________ + Rep me, and fight the lazy Viper007Bond!

December 1st, 2007, 11:05 AM	#30
thedguy ^ will bore you to death Joined: Jun 18th, 2004 Last Online: 04:04 AM Location: Under the Counter at McD's Posts: 5,898 Car: 1990 Mazda MX-5 Rep Power: 74	I know on some other forums you can pay to give someone ELSE a title (obviously it has to meet forum rules). This way the current system of titles is not really ruined. __________________

December 1st, 2007, 11:44 AM	#31
MXM old porsches do run! Joined: Jun 9th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Finland Age: 26 Posts: 2,712 Car: Porsche 944 LFS Status: Rep Power: 36	I'm very much against any kind of perks. It's nice to give them recognition, but as Jay said, I'd hate to see people who donate feel like they have more rights than others. Ideally it'd be anonymous, but it's not a solution in the reality. Private forum isn't such a great idea in my mind either. Rennlist did that a while ago, making offtopic accessible only for "paying members", and that's when I stopped visiting it. I'm not against donating, but I hate to be forced to do so, especially since I wasn't that active there, mostly lurking. So what I'm trying to say is that donations shouldn't be driven by rewards and they shouldn't create a pressure for non-paying people (except moral ). Also, what would you do if someone deserves a ban? Don't you think this will bring a lot more complications if someone is banned after donating? I think this should be made very clear, that donations are nothing more than that. You're not "buying" a custom title, access to forums or anything like that (ok, that's basicly what Quiky said in his rule 2).

December 1st, 2007, 12:00 PM	#32
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,086 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 237	Hmm, some valid points. I don't want this forum turning into cliques. I may just go with a generic "Donate" button not tied to the forums and call it at that. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

December 1st, 2007, 01:57 PM	#34
IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 01:39 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,890 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 74	Maybe we could get proper decals instead of bumper magnets? Or maybe both, why not? For the summer gettogether roadtrip i was thinking of getting easy to remove finalgear and "davos-to-stelvio or bust" decals for all the cars. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

December 11th, 2007, 04:02 AM	#37
wooflepoof Square with a title Joined: Jul 18th, 2005 Last Online: 02:50 AM Location: Texas, but I go to school in RI,Canada Age: 21 Posts: 3,828 Car: 1990 BMW 735iL Rep Power: 45	If you throw in a Viperbond Action figure keychain/bottle opener, I'm in. Personally I don't need or want perks I've spent more time here than on any videogame and class at school and I basically pay $250 a day for those. $50 p/year is the least I can do for this place __________________ Start food threads!

December 13th, 2007, 01:33 AM	#38
Blind_Io Dispenses buckshot medication for all undead patients. Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 01:23 AM Location: Richmond, California, USA Age: 28 Posts: 9,076 Car: 2004 Honda Civic Coupe 2000 VFR800 Interceptor Rep Power: 121