How should the new spoiler forums work?

Viper007Bond · July 21st, 2007, 12:52 PM

As a result of this thread, I have made a new spoiler section for Top Gear:

http://forums.finalgear.com/top-gear-spoilers/

(just a test thread in there currently)

As of right now, you must join a new usergroup in order to view the threads in those forums. However, I'm afraid that newbie users won't realize how to do that and as a result, the threads will get a LOT less attention.

So, I'm thinking that by default, all users have those post titles shown to them (in searches and stuff), i.e. exactly how spoilers are done now when they are posted in the generic TG section. However, if you don't want to see the thread titles, you can "opt out" and join a usergroup which denies you access to that forum (like it does by default now).

I'm not sure how to accomplish this alternate method (opt out), so there's no guarantee I could even get it to work, but before I put some serious effort into it, I thought I'd ask what people thought.

So, whatda think?

fbc · July 21st, 2007, 1:14 PM

Show the threads to all users, with an opt-out option. That will ensure people are aware of the section and that it hopefully gets used as intended.

Probably not the answer you wanted since it's the more difficult one...

Goose+ · July 21st, 2007, 1:23 PM

Ah crap, I'm all alone in the no option. I joined the spoiler group.

Viper007Bond · July 21st, 2007, 1:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbc

Probably not the answer you wanted since it's the more difficult one...

Pfft, that's what I voted for. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Adunaphel · July 21st, 2007, 4:30 PM

I'm no expert on VB, but isn't it possible to make new users member of more than one group by default? In that case the opt-out option (which has my preference) would be a lot easier to implement. Anyway, i vote opt-out.

BerserkerCatSplat · July 21st, 2007, 6:48 PM

I voted no users - I consider spoilers to be information shared only to registered members.

Prost264 · July 21st, 2007, 11:16 PM

I will gladly join the usergroup to keep me from seeing precious info.

Viper007Bond · July 22nd, 2007, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adunaphel

I'm no expert on VB, but isn't it possible to make new users member of more than one group by default? In that case the opt-out option (which has my preference) would be a lot easier to implement. Anyway, i vote opt-out.

"Registered Users" have access to the forum, this "opt out" group lacks access -- the user belongs to both. vB shows the posts since one group has access.

Viper007Bond · August 13th, 2007, 4:28 AM

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239654

No solution yet, however I now know how to make certain areas be excluded from the "new posts" search, so I may just settle for that.

powah · August 13th, 2007, 10:41 AM

I think it would be a good idea to have a few 'spoiler' sub-forums, like one in Top Gear and Fifth Gear, and one in Entertainment for movies and stuff. Yeah.

Viper007Bond · August 13th, 2007, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerof1000

I think it would be a good idea to have a few 'spoiler' sub-forums, like one in Top Gear and Fifth Gear,

Like... this one?

Way ahead of 'ya. images/smilies/wink.gif

Just working on how to implement it now...

Viper007Bond · September 7th, 2007, 1:05 PM

Okay, all done.

New forum: http://forums.finalgear.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66

If you join the "No Spoilers" usergroup, the "New Posts" link will exclude that forum from the search. It's not the perfect solution, but it's still a good one IMO. images/smilies/smile.gif

fbc · September 7th, 2007, 1:15 PM

Sweet - nice work boss. Consider me joined!

ESPNSTI · April 11th, 2008, 2:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Okay, all done.

New forum: http://forums.finalgear.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66

If you join the "No Spoilers" usergroup, the "New Posts" link will exclude that forum from the search. It's not the perfect solution, but it's still a good one IMO. images/smilies/smile.gif

Hmmm, for some reason, it doesn't appear to work for me:

Portion of search results from http://forums.finalgear.com/search.php?do=getnew

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8765/fgspoiler1tb3.jpg

My User CP group settings:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4710/fgspoiler2lx1.jpg

Viper007Bond · April 12th, 2008, 2:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPNSTI

Hmmm, for some reason, it doesn't appear to work for me:

Portion of search results from http://forums.finalgear.com/search.php?do=getnew

There is no easy way I know of to modify the results you get via that URL. It'd be too much hackery to exclude that forum if you're in the group.

So, instead if you're a member of the group, it changes the "New Posts" link at the top to this:

http://forums.finalgear.com/search.p...new&exclude=66

Use that URL. images/smilies/wink.gif

ESPNSTI · April 12th, 2008, 2:23 AM

Ah, I had an old linky bookmarked then, working like a charm with the "New Posts" now. images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

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July 21st, 2007, 12:52 PM	#1
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 5:35 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,183 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 292	How should the new spoiler forums work? As a result of this thread, I have made a new spoiler section for Top Gear: http://forums.finalgear.com/top-gear-spoilers/ (just a test thread in there currently) As of right now, you must join a new usergroup in order to view the threads in those forums. However, I'm afraid that newbie users won't realize how to do that and as a result, the threads will get a LOT less attention. So, I'm thinking that by default, all users have those post titles shown to them (in searches and stuff), i.e. exactly how spoilers are done now when they are posted in the generic TG section. However, if you don't want to see the thread titles, you can "opt out" and join a usergroup which denies you access to that forum (like it does by default now). I'm not sure how to accomplish this alternate method (opt out), so there's no guarantee I could even get it to work, but before I put some serious effort into it, I thought I'd ask what people thought. So, whatda think? __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005 Last edited by Viper007Bond; July 21st, 2007 at 12:58 PM. Reason: spelling

July 21st, 2007, 1:14 PM	#2
fbc Moderator Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Last Online: 5:49 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 34 Posts: 11,769 Car: 2006 MY07 Astra SRi Turbo Rep Power: 128	Show the threads to all users, with an opt-out option. That will ensure people are aware of the section and that it hopefully gets used as intended. Probably not the answer you wanted since it's the more difficult one... __________________ www.sniffpetrol.com

July 21st, 2007, 1:23 PM	#3
Goose+ Joined: Oct 11th, 2006 Last Online: November 6th, 2009 Location: The English Marxist State Age: 19 Posts: 1,087 Car: Honda Jazz Rep Power: 21	Ah crap, I'm all alone in the no option. I joined the spoiler group. __________________ "England expects that every man will do his duty" - Nelson.

July 21st, 2007, 6:48 PM	#6
BerserkerCatSplat Hormone Induced Joined: Jun 21st, 2005 Last Online: 4:49 AM Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,840 Car: ZJ 4X4X5 Rep Power: 160	I voted no users - I consider spoilers to be information shared only to registered members. __________________ OSPhoto

July 21st, 2007, 4:30 PM	#5
Adunaphel Global Moderator Joined: Jan 18th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: [ˈneːdərlɑnt] Age: 29 Posts: 4,589 Car: 1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E (W201) Rep Power: 153	I'm no expert on VB, but isn't it possible to make new users member of more than one group by default? In that case the opt-out option (which has my preference) would be a lot easier to implement. Anyway, i vote opt-out.

July 21st, 2007, 11:16 PM	#7
Prost264 Joined: Jun 30th, 2006 Last Online: 3:54 AM Location: Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia Age: 21 Posts: 2,603 Car: Mach 5 Rep Power: 42	I will gladly join the usergroup to keep me from seeing precious info. __________________

August 13th, 2007, 4:28 AM	#9
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 5:35 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,183 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 292	http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239654 No solution yet, however I now know how to make certain areas be excluded from the "new posts" search, so I may just settle for that. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

August 13th, 2007, 10:41 AM	#10
powah Previously Known As powerof1000 Joined: Mar 13th, 2007 Last Online: November 1st, 2009 Location: New Zealand Age: 16 Posts: 1,253 Rep Power: 16	I think it would be a good idea to have a few 'spoiler' sub-forums, like one in Top Gear and Fifth Gear, and one in Entertainment for movies and stuff. Yeah. __________________

September 7th, 2007, 1:05 PM	#12
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 5:35 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,183 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 292	Okay, all done. New forum: http://forums.finalgear.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66 If you join the "No Spoilers" usergroup, the "New Posts" link will exclude that forum from the search. It's not the perfect solution, but it's still a good one IMO. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

September 7th, 2007, 1:15 PM	#13
fbc Moderator Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Last Online: 5:49 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 34 Posts: 11,769 Car: 2006 MY07 Astra SRi Turbo Rep Power: 128	Sweet - nice work boss. Consider me joined! __________________ www.sniffpetrol.com

April 12th, 2008, 2:23 AM	#16
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