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May 23rd, 2005, 10:42 PM
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Rep Power: 0  |  92k audio is not enough Hi ! I thought the consensus of opinions, back in May, was that 128k audio only takes a tiny fraction more than 92k audio and makes a significant difference in sound quality. But, I now see that the new TopGear download is 92k MP3 sound. This is even more important now, due to the features about songs ! PS In places where MP3s are torrented, nowadays no one uploads anything less than 192k and even in the old days of dialup a few years ago, 128k was the standard. |
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May 24th, 2005, 09:39 PM
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| Lazier than Viper  Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 17th, 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 21 Posts: 9,676
Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status:  Rep Power: 0   | This should apply to 5th Gear too then. |
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May 26th, 2005, 08:14 PM
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Rep Power: 0  | Re: 92k audio is not enough Quote:
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May 26th, 2005, 09:23 PM
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Car: Mazda Miata Rep Power: 18    | Actually, I noticed the shortfall in audio quality as well. Music sounds tinny. Not a bad suggestion to bump it up to 128. |
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May 27th, 2005, 12:59 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | Better audio is always welcome !! ...I do know that fellas with lo bandwidth might not like it....but bumming it to 128k will only increase the file size by a small measure  ....or maybe we should poll this topic ..... |
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May 27th, 2005, 01:16 AM
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| Despot  Joined: Sep 27th, 2004 Last Online: October 30th, 2008 Location: Stavanger, Norway Age: 22 Posts: 1,300
Rep Power: 0 | I reacted to this as well.. The sound was a bit disappointing this time. I'll be glad to wait 10 minutes longer for a better musical experience  |
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May 27th, 2005, 01:31 AM
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| Lazy Head Dude  Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,964
Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 233  | I think Vuk was just trying to get some extra room for increased video quality. When you're limited in filesize, it's a video vs. audio game. Any increase in audio quality would mean a decrease in video quality. We could always go back to mono sound though.  Then you could have your 128kbps audio. 
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May 27th, 2005, 02:00 AM
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| Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 17th, 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 21 Posts: 9,676
Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 0 | fuck no. Priorities are: 1. Video 2. Stereo sound 3. Sound quality |
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May 27th, 2005, 02:01 AM
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| Despot Joined: Sep 27th, 2004 Last Online: October 30th, 2008 Location: Stavanger, Norway Age: 22 Posts: 1,300
Rep Power: 0 | Can't we do 380mb episodes instead and have all the goodies? |
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May 27th, 2005, 02:09 AM
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| Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 17th, 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 21 Posts: 9,676
Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 0 | I don't think the improvement is worth 30mb! |
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May 27th, 2005, 03:10 AM
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| Joined: Oct 25th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 289
Car: Mazda Miata Rep Power: 18 | I don't think the improvements will take an extra 30 MB. I haven't checked, but is vuk currently using VBR? That might help a bit (lower quality during talky bits, better quality when music starts). |
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May 27th, 2005, 03:15 AM
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| Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,964
Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 233 | Quote:
__________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005 | |
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May 27th, 2005, 03:18 AM
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| Cruzz563|work  Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Age: 24 Posts: 2,657
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May 27th, 2005, 03:19 AM
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| Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,964
Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 233 | Er, that's what I meant. I was confusing 175MB with 350. 
__________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005 |
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May 27th, 2005, 03:30 AM
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Car: none as of yet Rep Power: 45 | I say the quality of the videos that vuk did for the last season (350 MB) is actually the best. I don't notice much difference in sound quality, but I, myself would really like to keep the episodes up to 350 MB. |
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May 27th, 2005, 09:10 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | Quote:
Say we would want to fit a full season of TG on a single layer DVD (4,5GB) Normally there are something around 9 to 10 episodes per season. That would make the filesize for a single episode as big as 450MB. I think the current system works, but 'cos I'm making a DVD out of these for myself and will watch it through my AV-setup, I would appreciate better quality sound. Thank's for the rips anyway.
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May 27th, 2005, 09:55 AM
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Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 40 | not everybody is into DVD burning yet...
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May 27th, 2005, 11:04 AM
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| Wants Rick Astley's Babies  Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: 08:05 AM Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 5,993
Car: Golf LFS Status:  Rep Power: 38 | ^^ But most do... Still the 450 MB stuff doesn't work either, since its gonna be 11 eps this season. So, 400 MB would be the size to go... But resistance is big in the forum, so everybody will have to accept that, and the ones who need better quality should go for the 700MB rips that are around. I got one with 128 VBR audio.. But somehow, the quality of the video is not twice as good in it... Anyway, I plan to get the 700MB rips and put them on 2 DVDs... Buba
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May 27th, 2005, 04:58 PM
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| Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 17th, 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 21 Posts: 9,676
Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 0 | I don't want to waste more 700mb of bandwidth per week on TG and FG (both will be 1 hour long this fall) |
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May 27th, 2005, 06:49 PM
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Rep Power: 25 | I still think we should up the quality to 700mb - and a new series seems like a good time to do it - perhaps for the new series of Fifth Gear in Autumn. Re: VBR - when editing video - this is really not a good idea. CBR is so much easier to work with. I definately think that 92k is far too low though. At the very least it should be 128k.
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