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Old August 27th, 2008, 05:36 AM   #1
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Default Fifth Gear 14x03 - Help Me Pick A Fan Rip

I don't think the Scene will come through, so we need to pick another rip. Any suggestions?

TheBox has a 378.36 MB rip:

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DivX 6.6, 640 x 352, 25 fps @ 1000kbs
Mp3, Stereo @ 128kbs
Duration: 45:12
Not a big fan of the DivX or apparently non-VBR audio though.


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File size : 502 MiB
Duration : 44mn 53s
Overal bit rate : 1565 Kbps
Writing application : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
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Format profile : Streaming Video@L1
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : 0 warppoint
Format settings, Matrix : Default
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Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 44mn 53s
Bit rate : 1419 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 352 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.252
Stream size : 455 MiB
Writing library : XviD 1.1.2
Writing library/Date : UTC 2006-11-01

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Format version : Version 1 / Layer 3
Codec ID : 55
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Duration : 44mn 53s
Bit rate mode : VBR
Bit rate : 133 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 42.8 MiB
Writing library : LAME3.90.
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I have no clue if Jabba would be alright with us using his rip or not (I'd obviously ask first). Although the filesize is rather large, so we may not want to use this rip anyway.


Anyone know of any others?
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I got bored so I signed up and grabbed myself Jabba's version yesterday. The size is obviously out of whack, but despite that, the quality seems quite good.

But I think the Scene might still come through, it's only been a day and a half. You probably know better, but haven't they sometimes released them up to a few days later?
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I got bored so I signed up and grabbed myself Jabba's version yesterday. The size is obviously out of whack, but despite that, the quality seems quite good.
Yeah, but I'm leaning away from asking to use his rip as then we'll have to deal with all the morons on his forums saying we stole it even if we ask first. images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

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But I think the Scene might still come through, it's only been a day and a half. You probably know better, but haven't they sometimes released them up to a few days later?
Not that I know of with Fifth Gear. With Top Gear, they catch the repeat.

Well, I possibly take that back. Fifth Gear may reair too, dunno.

Fifth Gear does have the meat up the episode on their site though: http://fifthgear.five.tv/jsp/5gmain....s=14&episode=3 Maybe it's worth directing people there and then seeing what the Scene does. If they don't come up with anything, then we can use a fan rip.
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Let me clarify, I didn't say you should use Jabba's rip... just stating that that's what I saw and it looked fine. I would personally prefer to have a uniform 350mb rip for archival purposes, especially if it's from the same source as the other rips.
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Let me clarify, I didn't say you should use Jabba's rip...
I know, but other people have been.

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As would I. I think I'm just gonna link to Fifth Gear's website for now and give the Scene until Monday to put out a rip. If no rip by then, we'll address this again.
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I'm holding out for a scene release - I can wait a few days for Fifth Gear. If I get desperate I'll get the Motorworld rip, but my vote for FinalGear is to wait on the scene.
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I think Fifth Gear is popular enough for The Scene to catch the re-air. Hopefully The Scene thinks so too.

Give until Monday for a Scene release. Otherwise, look elsewhere. Just don't look in Jabba's direction. Not worth opening that can of worms...
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I have a copy on my PVR. If someone can guide me through encoding it from a .ts stream and then uploading. I would be all too happy to help.

Edit: I can't get the USB connection to work from my PVR to my computer so I'm going to have to pass.
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Can we maybe turn Jabba's rip into a normal 350mb rip?

How would he find out? He took all that intro crap out finally. images/smilies/tongue.gif
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Hmm... a 500 mb rip is already quite compressed. I can give it a shot, though.
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Didn't last season the scene missed a rip but they caught the re-air? I think they will pull through.
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Give until Monday for a Scene release. Otherwise, look elsewhere. Just don't look in Jabba's direction. Not worth opening that can of worms...
My thoughts exactly. It'll reair and I'm sure (er, hopeful) one of the many Scene groups will rip it on Sunday.

As for Jabba, I doubt he'd be opposed as long as I asked and gave credit (from my interactions with him, he seems like a decent enough guy overall), but I'd rather not deal with everyone else on his site.

*goes to post a link to Fifth Gear's website*
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Well, I went to motorworld.net and signed up so I could actually download the rip, as the ones listed on Mininova don't worry because the tracker is private. They have 2 rips for the 14x03 episode, one in Xvid and one in x264. I didn't get the Xvid one because I've found x264 rips are generally better, and I gotta say, the quality is pretty damn good. I mean, I dunno if the scene rip will be much better, but at 556MB, I feel like they packed sufficient quality in there, at least for me. I dunno if people are watching this on big TV's, but on my 15.4" 1440 by 900 laptop screen, looks just fine and on par with the scene releases for episodes 1 and 2 that were ~350MB.

Hope this helps. images/smilies/smile.gif

Edit: I guess this is the Jabba rip as the uploader is Jabba images/smilies/lol.gif, and the size didn't seem very off, it's actually bigger resolution that the River rips and it seems to be just about the same ratio. Also, this is about the x264 rip, I dunno if the Xvid one's size is different.

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I didn't get the Xvid one because I've found x264 rips are generally better, and I gotta say, the quality is pretty damn good. I mean, I dunno if the scene rip will be much better, but at 556MB, I feel like they packed sufficient quality in there, at least for me. I dunno if people are watching this on big TV's, but on my 15.4" 1440 by 900 laptop screen, looks just fine and on par with the scene releases for episodes 1 and 2 that were ~350MB.
Well, it should look good, 550MB + x264 = perfect for SD rips, a 350MB rip can't stand a chance, especially if its usually put out by the scene in disregard of quality. I mean, they are racing, speed is more important to them...
The 350MB rips are fine for Fifth Gear, though...
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350 MB is standard for a 45 minute show, which Fifth Gear is. Seeing as there is not much detail (neither being HD or animation), XviD is suitable. x264 only comes into its own with very high detail 720p or 1080p rips.
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As for Jabba, I doubt he'd be opposed as long as I asked and gave credit (from my interactions with him, he seems like a decent enough guy overall), but I'd rather not deal with everyone else on his site.
Hey, I thought we got all this cleared up last year, but just for the record I am more than happy for you to use any of our rips (including adding them to your own tracker), and also for any future occasions when the scene are late in releasing anything at all.

For the record, most of the "morons" left the site when we changed to being Motorworld, remaining morons can be banned if they cause any trouble though images/smilies/wink.gif

I take onboard what you say about the 350MB version, we usually use the "scene" versions as well now, and just stick to encoding our own x264 version (for people wanting to play them on their consoles) so this was just done to help the xvid fans out.

I will do another 350MB version though, and add it to our tracker for the folks that like the smaller size rips.

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I downloaded the Jabbba rip but i think waiting for the Scene release will keep finalgear cleaner images/smilies/biggrin.gif
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How would he find out? He took all that intro crap out finally. images/smilies/tongue.gif
350MB version now available images/smilies/wink.gif

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