Server issues

Quiky · February 18th, 2007, 4:57 AM

Will go into bigger detail here..

We co-locate our servers at 365Main in San Francisco. We purchase space through another company. Said company was fine for 18 months. We got a notice several days ago saying "We are moving to Seattle. We are taking all your servers from San Francisco, and putting them in our new datacenter." Then everything went down.. power issues at 365Main(but their site remained online.. silly, eh?).

The main reason we co-located in San Francisco, is because we had three people living in the city that could get to the servers in case something broke. Now the hosting company wants to move us further away.. and those three people are relocating as well due to personal issues(But I will remain here in Maryland).

So we are hunting down a new datacenter, and will move the servers ASAP.. it is likely that the forums will go down for a day or two while we overnight ship the servers to the new location, but we can probably avoid that by staggering the server moves.

Anyway, thats what is going on right now.. we will keep you informed when we receive new information.

Viper007Bond · February 18th, 2007, 7:59 AM

Fun times.

hokiethang · February 18th, 2007, 1:50 PM

I know of a couple colocation companies in Northern Virginia. I sent ya a PM Quiky about the ones that I know of.

STrRedWolf · February 18th, 2007, 4:29 PM

I hear there's Coloco in Laurel, Maryland.... damn, they're not taking any more customers.

Quiky · February 18th, 2007, 4:34 PM

Local to Maryland would be lovely.. another choice is to get a few T1 lines.

Steve Levin · February 18th, 2007, 6:36 PM

There are a couple of other providers at 365 Main as well -- my machine is there via bitpusher.com -- although I'm not entirely sure I'd recommend them at this point.

Steve

Quiky · February 18th, 2007, 6:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Levin

There are a couple of other providers at 365 Main as well -- my machine is there via bitpusher.com -- although I'm not entirely sure I'd recommend them at this point.

Steve

Bitpusher is who we use right now... and won't go with on their Seattle move.

We are pulling out of 365Main by the end of the month regardless of what BP does.

97BuickPkAveUltra · February 18th, 2007, 7:20 PM

Not that it's the most location-centric co-lo. But the place I use in Columbus, Ohio has been great for me, and they are really cheap and have a couple great pipes back to the Ohio Third Frontier network.

Hidden_Hunter · February 18th, 2007, 8:08 PM

use telstra's colo, I guarantee you that the cost of the site for a year won't be enough for one month.

epp_b · February 18th, 2007, 9:09 PM

[offtopic]Hey neat, I'll be going to Maryland in a couple of days images/smilies/wink.gif

[/offtopic]

Monabaker · February 18th, 2007, 11:45 PM

Thanks for the info, we appreciate the truth!

PacketCollision · February 19th, 2007, 8:42 AM

Hi, I'm PC, one of the other server admins. Bitpusher decided it would be loads of fun to continue to cycle the power on our servers tonight. If we're lucky, there won't be any more of this idiocy, but I'm not holding my breath.

Anyway, I fixed the corruption that is almost always associated with a database server being power-cycled while under a heavy load, so everything should work now. Sorry for having more downtime. We're looking at all of our options for co-lo, and hope to move to someone who can actually keep our boxes up as soon as possible.

Devon · February 19th, 2007, 9:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hidden_Hunter

use telstra's colo, I guarantee you that the cost of the site for a year won't be enough for one month.

So true.

Viper007Bond · February 19th, 2007, 9:48 AM

PC

ckm · February 20th, 2007, 3:37 PM

We have a bunch of servers at Voxel (www.voxel.net) and we also use Softlayer (www.softlayer.com). Softlayer in particular had great setups, including backend private LAN VPNs to your server. We've been using Voxel for 7+ years and have never had a problem with them.

I don't know what you are paying per month, but you might consider just moving the software and chucking the servers. Both Voxel and Softlayer have sub-$200/month dedicated packages, sub-$400 for 10mbs bandwidth.

Alternatively, there's also Hurricane Electric in the SF Bay Area (www.he.net). I would stay away from the whole T1 thing. I did that for years and it's no fun. Even my personal stuff is now on a dedicated box in some random datacenter.

Also, if you can get space at 200 Paul in San Francisco, that's probably one of the best datacenters in SF, along with Saavis and Layer3.

HTH,

Chris.

Viper007Bond · February 20th, 2007, 4:28 PM

Why would we chuck like $5000 worth of servers to pay more per month (I assume) for a lesser powered (I assume), hosted server? images/smilies/mellow.gif

Quiky · February 21st, 2007, 1:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Why would we chuck like $5000 worth of servers to pay more per month (I assume) for a lesser powered (I assume), hosted server? images/smilies/mellow.gif

Yeah, we co-locate the hardware because a dedicated package won't cut it alone.

The current webserver is at full capacity on weekends with the Top Gear surge..

gtrietsc · February 21st, 2007, 3:00 AM

What kind of hardware does the webserver run on today?

Quiky · February 21st, 2007, 3:24 AM

webserver: Pentium 4 2.8ghz, 2GB DDR400, 2x 320GB SATA RAID1
database: Xeon 3ghz, 4GB DDR2-533 ECC, 2x 320GB SATA RAID1

Viper007Bond · February 21st, 2007, 4:10 AM

We just need a more powerful front end server (funny thing is it's only a few months old), or we need to run dual front end servers with a single database server (the DB server's load is usually just fine and nice and low).

February 18th, 2007, 4:57 AM	#1
Quiky Devouring your soul.. after belly rubs. Joined: Aug 21st, 1995 Last Online: 4:42 AM Location: Maryland Posts: 3,221 Car: Dacia Sandero Turbo Quattroporte Mayo GTZR1 LFS Status: Rep Power: 587	Server issues Will go into bigger detail here.. We co-locate our servers at 365Main in San Francisco. We purchase space through another company. Said company was fine for 18 months. We got a notice several days ago saying "We are moving to Seattle. We are taking all your servers from San Francisco, and putting them in our new datacenter." Then everything went down.. power issues at 365Main(but their site remained online.. silly, eh?). The main reason we co-located in San Francisco, is because we had three people living in the city that could get to the servers in case something broke. Now the hosting company wants to move us further away.. and those three people are relocating as well due to personal issues(But I will remain here in Maryland). So we are hunting down a new datacenter, and will move the servers ASAP.. it is likely that the forums will go down for a day or two while we overnight ship the servers to the new location, but we can probably avoid that by staggering the server moves. Anyway, thats what is going on right now.. we will keep you informed when we receive new information.

February 18th, 2007, 7:59 AM	#2
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 7:30 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,275 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	Fun times. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

February 18th, 2007, 1:50 PM	#3
hokiethang Global Moderator Joined: Nov 30th, 2004 Last Online: 3:07 AM Location: Northern Virginia, USA Age: 26 Posts: 2,322 Car: 2007 Durango Rep Power: 28	I know of a couple colocation companies in Northern Virginia. I sent ya a PM Quiky about the ones that I know of. __________________

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Hidden_Hunter D: Joined: Oct 7th, 2006 Last Online: 10:35 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 5,782 Car: '08 Honda Accord Euro Rep Power: 76	use telstra's colo, I guarantee you that the cost of the site for a year won't be enough for one month. __________________ My car is dark grey not black!

February 18th, 2007, 4:34 PM	#5
Quiky Devouring your soul.. after belly rubs. Joined: Aug 21st, 1995 Last Online: 4:42 AM Location: Maryland Posts: 3,221 Car: Dacia Sandero Turbo Quattroporte Mayo GTZR1 LFS Status: Rep Power: 587	Local to Maryland would be lovely.. another choice is to get a few T1 lines.

February 18th, 2007, 6:36 PM	#6
Steve Levin Master of Disaster Joined: Jun 7th, 2006 Last Online: 5:16 AM Location: Sunnyvale, California Posts: 1,077 Car: Spec Racer Ford! Rep Power: 52	There are a couple of other providers at 365 Main as well -- my machine is there via bitpusher.com -- although I'm not entirely sure I'd recommend them at this point. Steve

February 18th, 2007, 7:20 PM	#8
97BuickPkAveUltra Joined: Feb 18th, 2007 Last Online: November 25th, 2008 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1 Car: 97 Buick Park Avenue Ultra Rep Power: 0	Not that it's the most location-centric co-lo. But the place I use in Columbus, Ohio has been great for me, and they are really cheap and have a couple great pipes back to the Ohio Third Frontier network.

February 18th, 2007, 9:09 PM	#10
epp_b Unexperienced lover. Joined: Jun 23rd, 2006 Last Online: 6:43 AM Location: Canadaland :) Posts: 7,426 Car: 1995 Nissan 240SX Rep Power: 144	[offtopic]Hey neat, I'll be going to Maryland in a couple of days [/offtopic]

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Monabaker Joined: Jul 28th, 2005 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Peabody, Ma. Posts: 26 Car: 2003 BMW E46 M3 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the info, we appreciate the truth!

February 19th, 2007, 8:42 AM	#12
PacketCollision Server Admin Joined: Feb 19th, 2007 Last Online: 6:23 AM Location: Davis, CA Posts: 254 Car: '10 Prius Rep Power: 29	Hi, I'm PC, one of the other server admins. Bitpusher decided it would be loads of fun to continue to cycle the power on our servers tonight. If we're lucky, there won't be any more of this idiocy, but I'm not holding my breath. Anyway, I fixed the corruption that is almost always associated with a database server being power-cycled while under a heavy load, so everything should work now. Sorry for having more downtime. We're looking at all of our options for co-lo, and hope to move to someone who can actually keep our boxes up as soon as possible.

February 19th, 2007, 9:48 AM	#14
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 7:30 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,275 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	PC __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

February 20th, 2007, 3:37 PM	#15
ckm Joined: Feb 21st, 2005 Last Online: December 10th, 2008 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 7 Car: XJR & Jensen Interceptor Rep Power: 0	We have a bunch of servers at Voxel (www.voxel.net) and we also use Softlayer (www.softlayer.com). Softlayer in particular had great setups, including backend private LAN VPNs to your server. We've been using Voxel for 7+ years and have never had a problem with them. I don't know what you are paying per month, but you might consider just moving the software and chucking the servers. Both Voxel and Softlayer have sub-$200/month dedicated packages, sub-$400 for 10mbs bandwidth. Alternatively, there's also Hurricane Electric in the SF Bay Area (www.he.net). I would stay away from the whole T1 thing. I did that for years and it's no fun. Even my personal stuff is now on a dedicated box in some random datacenter. Also, if you can get space at 200 Paul in San Francisco, that's probably one of the best datacenters in SF, along with Saavis and Layer3. HTH, Chris. Last edited by ckm; February 20th, 2007 at 3:47 PM.

February 20th, 2007, 4:28 PM	#16
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 7:30 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,275 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	Why would we chuck like $5000 worth of servers to pay more per month (I assume) for a lesser powered (I assume), hosted server? __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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February 21st, 2007, 3:24 AM	#19
Quiky Devouring your soul.. after belly rubs. Joined: Aug 21st, 1995 Last Online: 4:42 AM Location: Maryland Posts: 3,221 Car: Dacia Sandero Turbo Quattroporte Mayo GTZR1 LFS Status: Rep Power: 587	webserver: Pentium 4 2.8ghz, 2GB DDR400, 2x 320GB SATA RAID1 database: Xeon 3ghz, 4GB DDR2-533 ECC, 2x 320GB SATA RAID1

February 21st, 2007, 4:10 AM	#20
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 7:30 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,275 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	We just need a more powerful front end server (funny thing is it's only a few months old), or we need to run dual front end servers with a single database server (the DB server's load is usually just fine and nice and low). __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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