Should there be a quality rating or something?

Viper007Bond · April 19th, 2005, 2:54 PM

Before, I kinda figured that people would figure out that the old rips weren't as good quality as the current ones and that makes sense.

However, now that Overheat is ripping the reruns, they're gonna appear to be older than the true oldest rips we have which may confuse people.

So, should I make a note or a little 5 star system or something as the the episode's quality?

Thoughts/ideas needed.

evoWALO · April 19th, 2005, 2:59 PM

Viper the problem with the star system is you dont have a benchmark on quality. How about putting a description on it like this rip is at this resolution, using this codec, at this bitrate, using this aspect ratio, recorded on this date.

Last weekend I saw a 4:3 aspect ratio of Top Gear featuring Clarkson in the Koenigsegg & the hummer H1 & H2 in NTSC format. ANy idea when this was originally aired?

Mr_Why · April 19th, 2005, 3:05 PM

ummm, maybe a quality column with
poor ( images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

)
average ( images/smilies/smile.gif

)
excellent ( images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

)?
that's how you rate files in kazaa, and I think this system is pretty good. 8)

jeffy777 · April 19th, 2005, 3:18 PM

I definitely think some kind of quality rating/description would be a good idea. I'm not sure what would be the best as far as stars, etc. Lets do some more brainstorming.

Cruzz563 · April 19th, 2005, 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evoWALO

Viper the problem with the star system is you dont have a benchmark on quality. How about putting a description on it like this rip is at this resolution, using this codec, at this bitrate, using this aspect ratio, recorded on this date.

Last weekend I saw a 4:3 aspect ratio of Top Gear featuring Clarkson in the Koenigsegg & the hummer H1 & H2 in NTSC format. ANy idea when this was originally aired?

Probably Jabba's World, in the beginning he didn't adjust the aspect ratio, which I don't understand why you want to, and as you know it scews the picture. images/smilies/smile.gif

Renesis · April 19th, 2005, 3:49 PM

As long as YOU put it, if people start to vote, it might lose it's sence quickly

Viper007Bond · April 19th, 2005, 3:52 PM

No, it'd be me rating the quality.

And I'm still debating whether or not to bring back the overall episode rating system (the one that used to be on the old site).

evoWALO · April 19th, 2005, 4:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruzz563

Quote:

Originally Posted by evoWALO

Viper the problem with the star system is you dont have a benchmark on quality. How about putting a description on it like this rip is at this resolution, using this codec, at this bitrate, using this aspect ratio, recorded on this date.

Last weekend I saw a 4:3 aspect ratio of Top Gear featuring Clarkson in the Koenigsegg & the hummer H1 & H2 in NTSC format. ANy idea when this was originally aired?

Probably Jabba's World, in the beginning he didn't adjust the aspect ratio, which I don't understand why you want to, and as you know it scews the picture. images/smilies/smile.gif

I saw the Top Gear episode on cable TV. JW's encode are weird and have that annoying watermark.

Cruzz563 · April 19th, 2005, 5:01 PM

Ah ok, I don't know about that then, since you saw it on cable. Maybe the BBC (insert name here) used Pan and Scan since, as you know they film the show in a pseudo 16:9 format, not quite 16:9 by not 4:3 either.

SiR_dude · April 19th, 2005, 5:39 PM

Don't let users rate it...as soon as JC trashes a car they like, or it doesn't do well on the track, everyone gives it a poor rating, while the episode may be good. Look at that example that someone posted a while back about the 911...pick maybe 5 people to review it and decide on quality, but don't make it an open forum

jeffy777 · April 19th, 2005, 5:40 PM

yeah, I agree: just go with the video quality rating

TechZ · April 19th, 2005, 8:30 PM

So all the eps are gonna be re-ripped? So no more wmv images/smilies/tongue.gif

(those were season 1,2,3 I think)

Very nice images/smilies/smile.gif

I think it should be mentioned that its a new rip and the usualy BitRate/Codec/AR.

This will be good as I can have them all AVI, and watch them on my Divx player images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Ultra_Kool_Dude · April 19th, 2005, 10:05 PM

Rate vids from 1 to 5 gears. 8)

toma_alimosh · April 19th, 2005, 10:18 PM

I say you shouldn't rate them, as an acceptable quality for somebody might be poor quality for somebody else. I say that you should just put a section in their description where it says the resolution, the bitrate, the format and the file size (and maybe perhaps the codec used, if it's different for every one).
A 5-step or 3-step rating system would confuse people.

Plus, if you ever decide to offer videos at an even grater quality, what will you do ? change the system each time ( i.e. add a star each time or change the rating on some of the vids) ?

That's why I say, keep it objective, give everybody the facts, that way they can't complain about it and you'll have a system that will run as long as you want it to. They will decide on the hard facts if they want to get the video or not. And even more, no certain quality rips will be expected by the public, they'll get what you give them, so if they get a bit lower quality vids than the last best-q episode, they can't complain.

Viper007Bond · April 19th, 2005, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra_Kool_Dude

Rate vids from 1 to 5 gears. 8)

Haha, excellent. Someone make me a smilie sized bike sprocket. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

And some very valid points by vladmitu. I think I'll just do that. However, still be cool to have a gear smilie. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Roman · April 20th, 2005, 1:12 AM

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Take your pick Viper. images/smilies/smile.gif

Renesis · April 20th, 2005, 1:43 AM

This one's the best

Cruzz563 · April 20th, 2005, 1:52 AM

Nah, too big tho, I say the purple one

, looks kinda like the one for the XP control panel just slanted images/smilies/biggrin.gif

bihus · April 20th, 2005, 1:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruzz563

Nah, too big tho, I say the purple one

, looks kinda like the one for the XP control panel just slanted images/smilies/biggrin.gif

That or this one (maybe resized) are my favourites, as well.

Overheat · April 20th, 2005, 2:07 AM

lol - why are we still talking about this after deciding not to use it? images/smilies/biggrin.gif

April 19th, 2005, 2:54 PM	#1
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 2:23 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,272 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	Should there be a quality rating or something? Before, I kinda figured that people would figure out that the old rips weren't as good quality as the current ones and that makes sense. However, now that Overheat is ripping the reruns, they're gonna appear to be older than the true oldest rips we have which may confuse people. So, should I make a note or a little 5 star system or something as the the episode's quality? Thoughts/ideas needed. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

April 19th, 2005, 3:05 PM	#3
Mr_Why Joined: Dec 16th, 2004 Last Online: June 12th, 2005 Location: Herzeliya, Israel Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	ummm, maybe a quality column with poor () average ( ) excellent ()? that's how you rate files in kazaa, and I think this system is pretty good. 8) __________________

April 19th, 2005, 3:52 PM	#7
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 2:23 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,272 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	No, it'd be me rating the quality. And I'm still debating whether or not to bring back the overall episode rating system (the one that used to be on the old site). __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

April 19th, 2005, 5:01 PM	#9
Cruzz563 Needs a job! Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 18th, 2009 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Posts: 2,684 Rep Power: 31	Ah ok, I don't know about that then, since you saw it on cable. Maybe the BBC (insert name here) used Pan and Scan since, as you know they film the show in a pseudo 16:9 format, not quite 16:9 by not 4:3 either. __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

April 19th, 2005, 8:30 PM	#12
TechZ Captain Internet Joined: Dec 19th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Bahrain Age: 25 Posts: 2,921 Car: Audi TT '08 Rep Power: 200	So all the eps are gonna be re-ripped? So no more wmv (those were season 1,2,3 I think) Very nice I think it should be mentioned that its a new rip and the usualy BitRate/Codec/AR. This will be good as I can have them all AVI, and watch them on my Divx player __________________ techzonline.net

April 19th, 2005, 2:59 PM	#2
evoWALO Joined: Nov 11th, 2004 Last Online: November 19th, 2009 Location: Philippines / Naples, Florida Age: 29 Posts: 783 Rep Power: 27	Viper the problem with the star system is you dont have a benchmark on quality. How about putting a description on it like this rip is at this resolution, using this codec, at this bitrate, using this aspect ratio, recorded on this date. Last weekend I saw a 4:3 aspect ratio of Top Gear featuring Clarkson in the Koenigsegg & the hummer H1 & H2 in NTSC format. ANy idea when this was originally aired?

April 19th, 2005, 3:18 PM	#4
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 2:11 AM Location: US Age: 28 Posts: 6,295 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 91	I definitely think some kind of quality rating/description would be a good idea. I'm not sure what would be the best as far as stars, etc. Lets do some more brainstorming.

April 19th, 2005, 3:49 PM	#6
Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 9,669 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	As long as YOU put it, if people start to vote, it might lose it's sence quickly

April 19th, 2005, 5:39 PM	#10
SiR_dude Joined: Mar 5th, 2004 Last Online: November 13th, 2009 Location: Somewhere in rural Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,640 Car: 2000 Civic SiR Rep Power: 28	Don't let users rate it...as soon as JC trashes a car they like, or it doesn't do well on the track, everyone gives it a poor rating, while the episode may be good. Look at that example that someone posted a while back about the 911...pick maybe 5 people to review it and decide on quality, but don't make it an open forum

April 19th, 2005, 5:40 PM	#11
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 2:11 AM Location: US Age: 28 Posts: 6,295 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 91	yeah, I agree: just go with the video quality rating

April 19th, 2005, 10:05 PM	#13
Ultra_Kool_Dude AWESOME!!!111ONE Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: August 4th, 2009 Location: Clarkson's House Posts: 3,681 Car: POWERR!!! Rep Power: 0	Rate vids from 1 to 5 gears. 8) __________________ What's the difference between charity and socialism? What's the difference between sex and rape?

April 19th, 2005, 10:18 PM	#14
toma_alimosh Joined: Mar 14th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: "Meeting Place" Age: 22 Posts: 3,275 Car: none as of yet Rep Power: 76	I say you shouldn't rate them, as an acceptable quality for somebody might be poor quality for somebody else. I say that you should just put a section in their description where it says the resolution, the bitrate, the format and the file size (and maybe perhaps the codec used, if it's different for every one). A 5-step or 3-step rating system would confuse people. Plus, if you ever decide to offer videos at an even grater quality, what will you do ? change the system each time ( i.e. add a star each time or change the rating on some of the vids) ? That's why I say, keep it objective, give everybody the facts, that way they can't complain about it and you'll have a system that will run as long as you want it to. They will decide on the hard facts if they want to get the video or not. And even more, no certain quality rips will be expected by the public, they'll get what you give them, so if they get a bit lower quality vids than the last best-q episode, they can't complain.

April 20th, 2005, 1:12 AM	#16
Roman Resident Skydiver Joined: Jan 15th, 2005 Last Online: November 7th, 2009 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 1,639 Car: 03 stick shift PT Cruiser GT & 1994 Mazda Miata. Rep Power: 23	Take your pick Viper. __________________ . . . Not your average pt or Miata driver...

April 20th, 2005, 1:43 AM	#17
Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 9,669 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	This one's the best

April 20th, 2005, 1:52 AM	#18
Cruzz563 Needs a job! Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 18th, 2009 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Posts: 2,684 Rep Power: 31	Nah, too big tho, I say the purple one , looks kinda like the one for the XP control panel just slanted __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

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