1997 100k Dream Car Garage

public

Has been known to shou emousshiöns
DONOR
Joined
Nov 26, 2007
Messages
11,704
Location
Causticity
Car(s)
S203 M271 and a ton of crap
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE



It's 1997.

This means internet speeds are crappier, but everything else is awesome in a late 1990s way. A lot of great cars are available new, and a great fortune of 100k has fallen onto your lap, largely due to the same magical powers that have thrown you into the year 1997 again.

So: in this thread, burn 100k by buying as many GREAT 1997 CARS as you can buy. Bend the rules the way you're probably going to, but the 100k is in Today Euros Or Dollars Or GBP, whatever feels most natural to you. You get the gist. Now, list the cars!

- - - Updated - - -

Addition: the 100k buys you cars with their new 1997 prices, so depreciation doesn't work in your favour. This means you have to guesstimate what everything cost new, which mitigates the currency differences. 100k is a ballpark figure.
 

CraigB

Ich bin ein Kartoffel
DONOR
Joined
Feb 14, 2007
Messages
12,746
Location
SWMO
Car(s)
Mustang SVO - Nissan Frontier Pro-4X & Altima
This was my era of scanning manufacturer's websites, ordering up brochures of cars I was interested in, then reading those brochures front to back. What a weird teenager I was...

I'm going to try and get four vehicles for my money here. These would have been the cars I was most interested in actually buying 20 years ago.




1997 Honda Prelude SH ~$25,000




1997 Toyota Tacoma regular cab 4wd manual (2.7 liter 4 cylinder) ~$17,000




1997 Nissan 240SX LE ~$25,000




1997 Honda CR-V ~$20,000




1997 VW Golf ~$14,000
 

Redliner

Y'all got any lamps?
DONOR
Joined
May 19, 2005
Messages
22,586
Location
Lamp
Car(s)
I don't drive, I fly.
What, no Mustang or Ford of any kind?:lol:
 

public

Has been known to shou emousshiöns
DONOR
Joined
Nov 26, 2007
Messages
11,704
Location
Causticity
Car(s)
S203 M271 and a ton of crap
Don't all post at once!

One of the reasons why I wanted to view the listing from a properly 1997 standpoint is that all of the cars will have factory parts backing and warranty, most likely no rust, and they can be configured to one's exact taste. This all is in comparison to buying a random stack of 1997 cars with rust, issues and often terrible parts availability.



Hence, the first car of the bunch: a metallic red Citro?n Xantia Turbo CT Activa. No rust, no shortage of Activa specific parts, just wonderful chassis technology paired with a dutiful turbo engine, the way it should be. 1997 price on the European market is about 30k, give or take.

This stands for the highway cruiser and hauler, since the Berline 5-door bodystyle is nicely handy.



The second car is a bit more tricky. Leafing through the CAR Magazine I have handy, initially I wasn't sure whether I wanted an Integra Type-R or a Prelude 2.2. Both have received plenty of praise, but the Integra is the more hard-core car and seriously rare these days. The Prelude is the better all-rounder, but they have either rusted or been riced. The same goes for my actual choice: the Nissan 200SX S14. Compared to the Hondas, it has the benefits of a turbo engine and rear drive, and for 40k I'd say it meets my requirements decently well. There was a little more expensive "Touring Pack" available, but that's just leather and CD changer. As for the colour, a dark blurple is perfectly fine.

For the last car I'd rather have a small convertible. In 1997 you could still get an NA MX-5, as the NB was made available in early 1998. Getting the NA wouldn't really be 1997 in spirit, though. The first generation Lotus Elise is much more like it, but it's priced just so that I couldn't sneak it in as the third car (20k GBP in my price list, which in Today Money is almost 34k euros). The Fiat Barchetta is a lot cheaper, available for a touch under 16k 1997 GBP, which at 26k Today EUR fits right in.



100k well spent, huh?

- - - Updated - - -

Hahaha, Craig went very close :lol:
 

CraigB

Ich bin ein Kartoffel
DONOR
Joined
Feb 14, 2007
Messages
12,746
Location
SWMO
Car(s)
Mustang SVO - Nissan Frontier Pro-4X & Altima
What, no Mustang or Ford of any kind?
Really my Ford obsession started later and if the 1997 Ford offerings? I'll stick with what I picked. :D


Hahaha, Craig went very close
Very interesting that we were tempted by the same cars. I considered a Integra GS-R sedan, but decided a Prelude was much more exciting looking.

We also run into the same issue we always do, cars are cheaper in the US so I get more bang for my buck out of one of these hypothetical situations.
 

CrzRsn

Mr. Fedewhatever
DONOR
Joined
Mar 6, 2005
Messages
17,205
Location
Motor City, Michigan
Car(s)
13 Ford Mustang GT, 17 Ford Fiesta ST
I love these games!

1997 Volvo 850R Wagon - $40,135


1997 Mercedes-Benz C36 AMG - $51,925


Thought I'd be able to get a 1997 Miata for the remaining $7,940, but I just found some original pricing and my jaw hit the floor. A new base model Miata cost $19,125 in 1997. Thats right around $30k today. The M-Edition was hovering at the $40k mark. Considering that a 2017 MX5 starts at $24,915 and an RF is $31,555, the 1997 car seems like really bad deal.
 

public

Has been known to shou emousshiöns
DONOR
Joined
Nov 26, 2007
Messages
11,704
Location
Causticity
Car(s)
S203 M271 and a ton of crap
We also run into the same issue we always do, cars are cheaper in the US so I get more bang for my buck out of one of these hypothetical situations.
I know, but look how the 200SX has a turbo engine and not a naturally aspirated truck engine :p
 

LeVeL

Forum Addict
Joined
Jun 16, 2007
Messages
12,868
BMW M3 sedan in Techno Violet:





Toyota Supra Turbo:





Both were around $40k back then. I'd spend the rest on mods.
 

public

Has been known to shou emousshiöns
DONOR
Joined
Nov 26, 2007
Messages
11,704
Location
Causticity
Car(s)
S203 M271 and a ton of crap
Techno and Daytona Violet are great BMW colours.
 

CraigB

Ich bin ein Kartoffel
DONOR
Joined
Feb 14, 2007
Messages
12,746
Location
SWMO
Car(s)
Mustang SVO - Nissan Frontier Pro-4X & Altima
... you sure you really want a mk3 Golf?
Then? Hell yes. They had done a great job in marketing them to teenagers. Who could forget the "Da Da Da" commercial? Now of course I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole, but I still like the idea of them.

I know, but look how the 200SX has a turbo engine and not a naturally aspirated truck engine :p
Trust me I am aware of the superiority of the SR20DET over the KA24DE, but if I had bought one new (or even now) it would eventually be SR20 powered.
 

Blayde

Forum Addict
Joined
Dec 20, 2004
Messages
8,366
Location
Bahrain
Car(s)
'06 Honda Civic EXi, '11 Kia Sportage EX


disregard below, pointed out to me the NSX was nearly double what i thought, so just sticking with that :p

IIRC these were about 30-40k new in 1997

And 60K for a H1



My 2 car garage is done :D
 
Last edited:

M3lover

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 23, 2005
Messages
1,959
Location
The milkyway, Earth, Denmark, Copenhagen
Car(s)
S204 Mercedes-Benz C200 CDI BE T
I'm going to go by German prices since doing this with the Danish market prices is no fun.

Lotus Elise S1 in yellow. In 1997 the S1 was still only available in the basic 111 version so I will have to stick with that. As far as I can tell it was about 49.000 D-mark or roughly ? 25.000 from new.



I was going to say a X308 Jaguar XJR for the second car but I'm not sure they were actually out in 1997 and they were surprisingly expensive at almost ? 80.000.

So instead we have the Alpina B10 V8 in either Alpina green or blue metallic - can't decide. 124.000 D-mark or ? 63.500 from new. The B10 V8 Touring didn't come before 1998 so that is sadly not an option. Likewise the E39 M5 didn't come to be before 1999 ruling it out as well.



That leaves ? 11.500 which could be blown on options on the two above. I bet you could get a killer cassette player for the B10 back then :p
 

MXM

I paid for this title
DONOR
Joined
Jun 9, 2004
Messages
5,627
Location
Finland
Out of everything else posted so far, I fiercely support the Elise S1. But someone should find a Porsche price list for 1997. Can you get the last of the aircooled turbos? What about the RS?

I'm thinking more along the lines of who was at the peak of their game in 97? Or which brands or models disappeared and/or will remain special for a while?

I'm sure for 100k one could get a couple of TVRs. I also personally have a soft spot for Caterham 21, a huge flop at the time, meaning they made only 48. But I love the simple, sleek shape, and I think they should've made 49, it'd be very appropriate given company roots ;)
 

M3lover

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 23, 2005
Messages
1,959
Location
The milkyway, Earth, Denmark, Copenhagen
Car(s)
S204 Mercedes-Benz C200 CDI BE T
Out of everything else posted so far, I fiercely support the Elise S1. But someone should find a Porsche price list for 1997. Can you get the last of the aircooled turbos? What about the RS?
German prices:

Base Boxster: ? 39.100
Base 993 Carrera: ? 68.000
993 RS Coupe: ? 79.000
993 Turbo: ? 112.400

http://www.elfer-gtr.de/993erPreislisten.htm

The RS would be cheating though since its 1995-1996...

I'm thinking more along the lines of who was at the peak of their game in 97? Or which brands or models disappeared and/or will remain special for a while?
Some of the cars I think were special in 1997 and below ? 100.000:

Alfa Romeo 156 (beautiful, good handling and great V6)
BMW E39 series (Far ahead of the competion back then- still holds up today I think)
Honda Integra Type-R (Best GTI like car)
Lotus Esprit V8 (How I would draw a sportscar when I was 10 years old)
Peugeot 406 coupe (beautiful)
Renault Clio Williams (Best hot hatch)
Pretty much all of the japanese 280 hp cars (WRX STi, EVO IV, R33 GT-R, Supra, NSX, RX-7)
 
Last edited:

Matt2000

Disco Stu-pour
DONOR
Joined
Feb 17, 2006
Messages
14,615
Location
Country smells, England
Car(s)
'01 Disco 2 V8, '90 Disco 1, '05 Smart Roadster
I guess the idea it being in current money is due to currency changes, we're not taking inflation in to account are we?

Anyway I'd obviously have to buy a new Range Rover.



I can only find the US prices for the HSE model but it works out by 1997 currency conversion to be around ?45k. It would be incredible to drive one with a factory warranty and a much lower chance of problems than you would get today.

I'd like to say TVR Cerbera next but that's ?50k so I'll have to go without. I'd also like to say Caterham Super 7, buy you had a choice of Rover K-series or Vauxhall engines then so I'll pass thanks. :lol:

If we're going back from now to 1997 I'm going to get something from a company that isn't around any more. Saab 900 V6 coupe it is then, around ?30k.



Or maybe a BMW 3 series for the same price if I change my mind and want RWD. A new Defender 110 station wagon back then worked out to be about ?25k so I'd finish off with that. I'd go for the 300tdi because I know how much they're worth now.

Probably a really boring selection but whatever, I can make more money from predicting the future and buy more exotic stuff. :p
 

public

Has been known to shou emousshiöns
DONOR
Joined
Nov 26, 2007
Messages
11,704
Location
Causticity
Car(s)
S203 M271 and a ton of crap
It's in current money just to help visualize the amount, but I'm using an inflation calculator together with the old price list so it's at least vaguely correct. I can't remember, did EUR and USD start out at 1:1?
 

Matt2000

Disco Stu-pour
DONOR
Joined
Feb 17, 2006
Messages
14,615
Location
Country smells, England
Car(s)
'01 Disco 2 V8, '90 Disco 1, '05 Smart Roadster
With inflation I'm screwed, the Range Rover worked out to be ?90k now, which is still below current prices for the top model. :lol:
 

Der Stig

is Der Slut
DONOR
Joined
Dec 19, 2008
Messages
7,311
Location
Misery Knob
Car(s)
Divorcée Mobiles
These are always fun!

1997 Land Rover Discovery SD 5 speed with the ARB catalog thrown at it ~$34,000



1997 Mazda RX7 5 speed ~$37,500


1997 BMW R1100GS ABS ~$12,000



1997 Ducati 916 ~$16,500

 
Top