Unveiled: 2011 BMW 1 Series (F20)

chaos386

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Good to know it comes in any shade of gray you want! :lol: (that blue looks pretty nice, though)
 

Hbriz

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Do you know what? Every time I look at this car, I like it a bit more. I don't think it's that ugly. Not a masterpiece either, but not terrible. At least it's not generic.
 

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Do you know what? Every time I look at this car, I like it a bit more. I don't think it's that ugly. Not a masterpiece either, but not terrible. At least it's not generic.
I hate to say this but I have to agree with you.
Even the buttugly front lights start to make sense...
 

IceBone

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I expect you to to hand over your petrolhead membership cards at the door. And don't let it hit you on the way out.
 

static

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I say in six months you are a convert too. In 12 months when the coupe comes along, you're calling your bank and not minding the front one bit anymore. even though it's the back that has changed :)
 

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Hah, hardly. Every post Bangle BMW I've hated and still hate. The last ones I liked were the E92 and E89.
 

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I was aware that the current generations of the 1-Series and 3-Series will be the last ones to be propelled by legendary naturally asprited BMW straight sixes, but it's still sad to face the reality. I know NA I6 can't produce required CO2 emissions, but the engines in current 3-series are still extremely efficient and I would gladly use 15% more gas just to have V12-smooth straight six under the hood instead of soulles turbo four-pot.

For a long time BMW was the last manufacturer that kept building of cars with probably the best configuration ever : straight six in the front, manual gear box in the middle and diff in the back (Jags, Mercs, big Japanese sedans, all had I6 and RWD). Of course they're keeping I6s in 5 and 7 series and also in the most powerfull 1 and 3 series, but the days of ordinary BMW with I6 are now definately gone.
 

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As someone who drives a car with a turbo four, I am going to respectfully disagree with this comment.
It's perfectly fine in a Seat. I think this is a question about tradition. Seat doesn't have a tradition for I6's as BMW does.
 

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No don't get me wrong, my message was bit unclear. World is full of excellent turbo fours, but like McRae said, it's about tradition. BMW had a long tradition with NA straight sixes and they provide character you want in a BMW. Four cylinder turbos are excellent engines just as modern turbo diesels are, but BMW straight six has much more suitable character for BMW than turbo four does.

Sorry I typed my original message a bit different way than I wanted. And hey, I'd love to have a turbocharger under the Mazda's hood :)
 

chaos386

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It's perfectly fine in a Seat. I think this is a question about tradition. Seat doesn't have a tradition for I6's as BMW does.
BMW has plenty of history with turbo fours, though. Just look at the 2002 and their Formula One cars from the 80s. :)
 

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Damn, didn't think about that :D
 
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