SchumacherM
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The F1 turbo has to get a 1.6 V6 to around 550-600hp. The WRC turbo has 2 liters to make, what... 300?
Big ass turbo...sucks all the noisy exhaust gas which would normally contribute. In comparison, WRC turbo is small and the engine has more displacement. Also, only one central exhaust pipe.All that said, everyone is saying its quiet because of the Turbo and I don't quite understand how that can be. Sure, I can see it muffling things a bit, but if you look at other motorsports where small engines with Turbo's are used like the World Rally Championship, those vehicles are pretty damn loud and can be heard miles away. So either there is something else going on to keep them as quiet as they are, or the Broadcast teams are just doing a horrible job with capturing the audio (or both). I'm still willing to give them some time to figure it out, but do hope that it will be remedied relatively soon.
The F1 turbo has to get a 1.6 V6 to around 550-600hp. The WRC turbo has 2 liters to make, what... 300?
You know what would make it louder? if the exhaust radius increased towards the exit but I'm not sure of that would be within the regulations.
It is quiet. People at trackside reported it so, it's not the mixing on the TV.
I'm just saying... its not just a Turbo that is making it quiet. I actually put it down more to the v6 engine, which is more inherently drone producing then other configurations in my experience.
It isn't quiet...its just not as loud as it was. I'm not disputing that the new cars are significantly quieter and that for some that is taking away from being a live spectator.
I said it in another thread, but if they are using a setup that worked well for the deafening sound level that the cars of the last decade put out, its not going to work for these much quieter cars. There are so many different avenues they could take to capture the more nuanced sound of these new cars better. Even just putting on a set of nice headphones and cranking the sound up helps if you need it to be loud.
So yes, using different audio capture techniques and adjusting the mix of the TV broadcast could very well make up for a lot of the complaints people are having. As someone who values his ears and hearing, I wouldn't necessarily mind a quieter race where ear muffs aren't required equipment either.
Trying to make a point that the engine configuration is not to blame, it's the crap that it's burdened with. That it is indeed the turbo that eats every ounce of V6 goodness.
Should refuelling be re-introduced to F1? Surely it could help the teams to run engines on higher rpm?s = better sound.
I don't want to see fireballs in the pitlane
Not true. One of the main complaints of the "OMG F1 is ruined!!!11!!!oneeleven!!!"-crowd is that in order to stay within fuel limits, F1 drivers don't go flat out for the whole race, but have to dial down engine modes now and then in order to make it to the finish line. The only "under the limit" penalty is if you make it to the finish line without the mandatory 1 liter sample for analysis left in the tank. The fact that it's been some time since the last driver actually ran out of petrol only shows how good the teams are at managing their fuel strategys.I think refueling adds another element to other forms of racing. Sometimes they gamble on fuel and lose. Sometimes it adds suspense. In F1 it seems like they never really can run out, but they can come in under the limit and be penalized after the fact, which doesn't really add any excitement.
Not true. One of the main complaints of the "OMG F1 is ruined!!!11!!!oneeleven!!!"-crowd is that in order to stay within fuel limits, F1 drivers don't go flat out for the whole race, but have to dial down engine modes now and then in order to make it to the finish line. I like this kind of strategy games, but then again, I am not a true fan, obviously.