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Well, if you write 930 first then the turbo is redundant. Only if you write turbo first you can render more precisely what generation of turbo it is, but then again we all know which generation that is. ;)
The 930 is modifying the word Turbo, so proper grammar says that it goes first. Saying it was a Turbo 930 is redundant since the "930" is the noun and the Turbo is the modifier, but saying it is a 930 Turbo is just specifying which version of the Turbo I was speaking of.

I should have known this level of pedantacism would be present in a Porsche thread. :p
 

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Who said I was wrong? Redundant is one thing... inaccurate is completely another. The fact that it bugs you is your issue not mine. I have no need to cater to your psychosis :lol:
 

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...just get a 991 GTS, stuff a GT3/GT3 RS engine in it and call it a day, if you want the driving experience.
I do get the point, and it is a good point, but the R has GT3 suspension parts (which are then tweaked for the R) so it won?t be the same. I?ve driven both the 991 GTS and the 991 GT3. Now the former is stiff and the latter is simply stunning. There is a difference even if the GTS is very, very good as well.
 

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Oh, you're completely right. I was just trying to get the point across that if you really wanted the 911 R driving experience and don't have the money for it/not wanna spend so much on one/can't seem to get your hands on one, then building one yourself with stock and aftermarket parts is definitely an option.

Funny thing is, you could buy a 991 slightly used for 80, put some 100 into it and then it's probably worth 60. Because apparently that's how the Porsche market works.
 

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Oh, you're completely right. I was just trying to get the point across that if you really wanted the 911 R driving experience and don't have the money for it/not wanna spend so much on one/can't seem to get your hands on one, then building one yourself with stock and aftermarket parts is definitely an option.

Funny thing is, you could buy a 991 slightly used for 80, put some 100 into it and then it's probably worth 60. Because apparently that's how the Porsche market works.
But that is true for any car, isn't it?

Buy car. Put 30 grand in mods. Car is worth 10 grand less. :lol:
 

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It is. :) Sometimes they're worth more, but only by a bit. It's the case with supercharged and turbocharged MX-5's over here, for example.

But with some Porsche ... take a 996 Turbo or GT2, tune it to a track car with 700+ hp and nothing in it, not even A/C or P/S, and boom you just went from 100k/250k to 60. Even if it's objectively a better car in any way, the Porsche apparently market consists of so many purists and OEM fetishists that it doesn't matter.
 

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But that is true for any car, isn't it?

Buy car. Put 30 grand in mods. Car is worth 10 grand less. :lol:
Depends on the car. Buy a GT3 and put in the factory rear cage and the OEM shell seats ($18k) and you've added $18k of value to the car. It can be weird sometimes. Do the same thing to a Carrera S and your math checks out.
 
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Depends on the car. Buy a GT3 and put in the factory rear cage and the OEM shell seats ($18k) and you've added $18k of value to the car. It can be weird sometimes. Do the same thing to a Carrera S and your math checks out.
Those are options when ordering from the factory or were fitted to the factory car from a higher trim level. Since its from Porsche themselves, the purist are fine with it (usually). Its when you go outside the fold that it gets weird. One shop doing it can add value (RWB comes to mind) but the average Porsche garage doing upgrades isn't going to most of the time. You'll almost never make money upgrading a car but you sure can lose money pretty easily.

Still a heck of a lot of fun to do sometimes though.
 

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Depends on the car. Buy a GT3 and put in the factory rear cage and the OEM shell seats ($18k) and you've added $18k of value to the car. It can be weird sometimes. Do the same thing to a Carrera S and your math checks out.
Those are options when ordering from the factory or were fitted to the factory car from a higher trim level. Since its from Porsche themselves, the purist are fine with it (usually). Its when you go outside the fold that it gets weird. One shop doing it can add value (RWB comes to mind) but the average Porsche garage doing upgrades isn't going to most of the time. You'll almost never make money upgrading a car but you sure can lose money pretty easily.

Still a heck of a lot of fun to do sometimes though.
What he said.

Both are factory options, and therefore don't count as "mods", but of course we can find exceptions to that rule, as usual. :lol:
 

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Both are factory options, and therefore don't count as "mods"
The cage is not, at least here in the States. I'd also say the dynamic is the same even if you go with an aftermarket cage, also.
 
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