- Aug 1, 2006
marcos_eirik;n3551146 said:Well, the UK is actually standing with a loaded gun in it's hand pointing it at it's feet. Why aren't anyone seriously suggesting not shooting their feet, and just drop the whole brexit thing? We all know the arguments that convinced people to vote for brexit, were exposed as lies.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44735505?intlink_from_url=&link_location=live-reporting-storyAirbus chief says ministers have 'no clue' on Brexit
The chief executive of planemaker Airbus has accused the government of having no idea how to take the UK out of the EU without damaging the country.
Tom Enders said it "still has no clue, or at least no consensus, on how to execute Brexit without severe harm".
"Brexit in any form, soft or hard, light or clean - whatever you call it - will be damaging," he added.
Which makes me think this is a power play. Boris has been aiming for the PM seat for ages, now he has the opportunity and justification (her idiotic calling of elections, and now this).MacGuffin;n3551115 said:And now Boris quit as well. Congratulations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/10/opinion/boris-johnson-resignation-brexit.html?smid=fb-nytopinion&smtyp=cur[h=1]Boris Johnson Has Ruined Britain[/h] He knows that the verdict of history is about to come down on him — and bury him.
Britain is in this mess principally because the Brexiteers — led largely by Mr. Johnson — sold the country a series of lies in the lead up to the June 2016 referendum on leaving the European Union. They did so because neither Mr. Johnson nor his fellow leader of the Leave campaign, Michael Gove, intended, wanted or expected to win.
At the start of 2016, Mr. Johnson was perhaps the most popular politician in Britain. Supporters and fans mobbed him at train stations and traffic lights; pollsters and pundits thought he could reach the parts of the country that other Conservatives could never touch. But he was also driven and insecure, so desperate to guarantee he would be the next prime minister that he cynically abandoned his own previous positions on the European Union in order to try to secure support from his party’s Euroskeptic right wing. Because Mr. Johnson and Mr. Gove were confident that the Leave campaign was a hopeless cause, they were free to make ridiculous claims that they had no expectation of ever having to fulfill. They said that Brexit would make Britain both richer and more independent, with more money for the National Health Service, much greater control of immigration and continued friction-free trade with Europe.
I've been having trouble to follow this unbearable palaver because it's so bloody depressing to see it develop. Not that I feel for any Leave voters or Brexiteers, quite the opposite in some cases, but it must be terrible for Remain voters who are now stuck between a rock, a hard place and a brick wall. Despised by the Brexiteers (and some of the Leave voters), with a very uncertain future ahead which they tried to prevent and then also faced with any negative feelings that mainland Europeans may have towards the UK in general.marcos_eirik;n3551484 said:Comfortable lies are easier to sell than rough truths...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45442079Secretary of State 'did not understand' NI voting patterns
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/uk/brexit-raab-dover-calais-scli-intl/index.htmlBritain's Brexit Secretary, Dominic Raab, has been ridiculed for admitting that he did not previously realize how important a major trade route is to the UK economy.
Speaking at a technology industry event in central London on Wednesday night, Raab denied that failing to reach a deal with the European Union would lead to major shortages of food and medicine due to disruption between the English port of Dover and Calais in France.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/11/brexit-whistleblower-shahmir-sanni-taxpayers-alliance-concedes-it-launched-smearsTaxPayers’ Alliance concedes it launched smears against Brexit whistleblower
The uncontested claim has stated that the TaxPayers’ Alliance is responsible for Elliott’s Brexit Central website as part of nine “linked” high-profile rightwing “thinktanks” that operate in and around offices at 55 Tufton Street in Westminster and coordinate media and other strategy.
A separate claim by Sanni against Downing Street is still ongoing.
https://www.bindmans.com/uploads/files/documents/17_July_2018_-_Particulars_of_Claim_(As_Lodged).pdf (pdf)EMPLOYMENT TRIBUNAL
B E T W E E N:
SHAHMIR SANNI (Claimant)
THE TAX PAYERS ALLIANCE LIMITED
The Reason to Dismiss - The Nine Entities
(88) The Respondent is one of seven organisations located at or with links to 55
Tufton Street, who each pursue different strands of the same political goals.
One of these is the exit of the UK from the European Union.
(89) The other organisations are:
(a) The office of Peter Whittle, former leader of the UK Independence Party;
(b) Civitas: Institute for the Study of Civil Society Europe;
(c) The Adam Smith Institute;
(d) Leave Means Leave;
(e) The Global Warming Policy Foundation;
(f) Brexit Central;
(g) The Centre for Policy Studies (although its registered address is at 55
Tufton Street, its offices are elsewhere); and
(h) The Institute for Economic Affairs
That's amazing use of alliteration!jack_christie;n3553193 said:Clueless
what i don't understand, is that now it becomes clear how much the UK fucked itselfmpicco;n3551419 said: