BRexit : Shall UK stay in EU or go now?

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Now I am pretty sure there is no majority in Commons for No Deal, question is whether there will be one for an article 50 extension.
If the muppets in Westminster vote to avoid no deal but vote against extension, I doubt if I'll want to live in a country lead by such incompetent people much longer.
 

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Theresa May's Brexit deal has been defeated in the Commons by 391 votes to 242, a majority of 149.
 

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So what happens next?

The next step is... another vote (this one on Wednesday). MPs will vote on a motion on whether to allow the UK to exit the EU on 29 March without a deal - a so-called "disorderly" or "no-deal" Brexit.

Leaving the EU without a deal - and therefore without the 21-month transition period provided for by the deal - carries significant risks for trade, immigration, health, and more, and parliament will almost certainly reject that possibility.

Rejection of a no-deal Brexit would then set up... yes, you guessed it: another vote.
This one would decide whether Mrs May will go back to the EU to request an extension to Article 50 - the formal name for the notification from the UK that it is leaving the union.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-47542925
 

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Why the **** are they voting for the Malthouse compromise? It cannot be implemented or enforced. FML.
 

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Other vote is against a no deal, which it cant do unless they vote for May/EU deal or vote to revoke Article 50, otherwise its no deal.

Also brexiteers have been working on getting their Fascist euro buddies to help block an Article 50 extentsion, which needs unanimous support at the EU level.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/13/brexiters-lobby-for-european-veto-of-article-50-extension

As for what happens next, one Tory MP judged: “Fuck knows”. Welcome to Fuckknowsville. Population: us.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/13/theresa-may-deal-europe-eu-mps

No deal tariffs
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/13/what-are-tariffs-and-how-do-they-affect-the-prices-consumers-pay

Live
https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/70f2ab78-af53-4cc1-ac15-58178d882629

Votes expected at about 7pm and 7.15pm UK time.
 
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The successful amendment was put forward by Yvette Cooper

312 for v 308 against

No deal Brexit off the table
 
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Former Labour adviser Ayesha Hazarika says "there's every chance" that Theresa May could bring back her deal for a third vote.

"I think we're in very very tricky territory" she says, because either the PM chooses a deal which is closer to the EU, or she calls a general election or referendum.

George Parker, political editor of the Financial Times, says that Mrs May might agree to a series of indicative votes on what Brexit should look like.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-parliaments-47529293
 

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MPs reject the 'Malthouse Compromise' amendment

164 for
374 against

The Malthouse Compromise - called for a delay to Brexit from 29 March to 22 May to give time to leave without a deal
 
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Voting on the government's amended no-deal Brexit motion.

The original motion said the that the UK would not leave the EU without a deal on the 29 March, meaning the UK could leave the EU in a no-deal scenario at a later date.

However, after the government defeat on the Spelman amendment, which called for no-deal to be removed as the default option if a deal does not achieve a consensus among MPs, the motion now states that MPs would not leave the EU without a deal.

Of course, this is simply an expression of the will of MPs, and not a binding decision.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-parliaments-47529293
 

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So there needs to be an EU deal agreed or vote to revoke Article 50, or vote to extend Article 50, otherwise its no deal.
 

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SNP David Linden asks when the meaningful vote 3 will be "so we can prepare for that nonsense".
 

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Tomorrow MPs will be asked to accept a new state of play: If they back her deal (vote to be held before 20 March) there could be a short extension. If they refuse to back PM’s deal it’ll be a longer extension and EU will decide terms.

For a longer extension all EU 27 will have to agree to length and terms, which could involve cash. For shorter one sense is EU would be OK with a date of June 30 because UK would not take part in European elections
 

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I found this infographic of the projected Brexit outcome:

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That's a brilliant description.
 

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Bercrow by now is my hero. The way he's presiding over this farce with both dignity and a certain kind of black humour is perfect.
 
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