Daughter takes father to court over being grounded and wins

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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2009/04/07/mtl-quebecgirl-sues-dad-0407.html
Quebec dad sued by daughter after grounding loses his appeal
Father's lawyer says they may take case to Canada's Supreme Court
Last Updated: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 | 4:30 PM ET Comments276Recommend127
CBC News
A Quebec father who was taken to court by his 12-year-old daughter after he grounded her in June 2008 has lost his appeal.

Quebec Superior Court rejected the Gatineau father's appeal of a lower court ruling that said his punishment was too severe for the wrongs he said his daughter committed.

The father is "flabbergasted," his lawyer Kim Beaudoin told CBC News.

In its ruling, issued Monday, the province's court of appeal declared the girl was caught up in a "very rare" set of circumstances, and her father didn't have sufficient grounds to contest the court's earlier decision.

The family's legal wrangling started with a dispute over the girl's internet use.

She had been living with her father after her parents split up when he grounded her in 2008 for defying his order to stay off the internet. The father caught her chatting on websites he had blocked, and alleged his daughter was posting "inappropriate pictures" of herself online.

Her punishment: she was banned from her Grade 6 graduation trip to Quebec City in June 2008, for which her mother had already granted permission.

The father ? who had custody ? withheld his written permission for the trip, prompting the school to refuse to let the girl go with her classmates.

That's when the girl asked for help from the lawyer who represented her in her parents' separation, and petitioned the court to intervene in her case.

"Going to court was a last resort," said Lucie Fortin, a legal aid attorney who represented the girl. "The question was that there was a problem between the father and the mother, and the child asked the court to intervene because it was important to her.

"The trip was very important to her."

Legal battle destroyed father-daughter relationship

A lower court ruled in the girl's favour in 2008. She went on the trip, but her father appealed the decision on the principle of the matter.

He doesn't have regrets, his lawyer said.

"Either way, he doesn't have authority over this child anymore. She sued him because she doesn't respect his rules," Beaudoin said. "It's very hard to raise a child who is the boss."

The girl ? who now lives with her mother ? doesn't have much of a relationship with her dad now, Beaudoin said.

"We went from a child who wanted to live with her father, and after all this has been done, they're not speaking anymore."

"We have a lot of work to re-establish a link between those two."

Beaudoin believes the ruling reflects a loss of moral authority in Quebec's court system.

"Is this what we want in our society? Laws are supposed to reflect our values. And if the courts aren't reflecting that, maybe the government will, to prevent children from going this way," she said Tuesday, adding her client may take the case to Canada's Supreme Court.

In its Monday ruling, the appeal court warned the case should not be seen as an open invitation for children to take legal action every time they're grounded.
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Posting inappropriate photos of a 12-year-old-self online seems to deserve a no-class-trip punishment, for sure. Besides...6-th grade isn't a REAL graduation...just a made-up "special event" like "Sweetest's Day."
 
It's absurd that they set that precedent. Why in the hell would they do that?
 
wtf

from a 12yr old?

kids like that should be slapped across the face repeatedly until they get the picture.

I'm surprised that the mother didn't take any neccessary action against the daughter. At least teach her a proper lesson of respect by banning her from the school trip.

Oh well... This is exactly the kind of reasons that I don't want to have kids.
 
MadCow809 said:
Oh well... This is exactly the kind of reasons that I don't want to have kids.
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No, it's exactly the kind of reason why you have to be a good parent in order to have a kid who doesn't resort to legal mumbo-jumbo like this.


Good parenting is key. Knowing what decisions to take about the future of your child.
 
the lawyer who took up this case should be fired, the girl should be slapped and grounded some more, the dad should sue for compensation

srsly, this is beyond WTF
 
vikiradTG2007 said:
No, it's exactly the kind of reason why you have to be a good parent in order to have a kid who doesn't resort to legal mumbo-jumbo like this.

Good parenting is key. Knowing what decisions to take about the future of your child.
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Too right mate, it is all about setting limits, but at the same time supporting your children and (gasp!) talking and "playing" with them. Punishments for transgressions should be the exception not the norm - avoid shouting unless to save them from immediate danger - crossing the road without looking for instance.
 
Man, I bet this family is awesome now in private.
 
Hopefully the father kicks her ass to the curb and she will be forced to turn tricks in order to provide herself with food, shelter, and clothes.
 
Firecat said:
Hopefully the father kicks her ass to the curb and she will be forced to turn tricks in order to provide herself with food, shelter, and clothes.
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That's the thing though, the bitch now lives with her mother. And it's probably her mother who encouraged her to sue her dad - that woman used her child as a tool to seek revenge on her ex-husband. Fucking disgusting.
 
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU

This is rediculous. Good to see that my tax dollars are supporting a good and wholesome court system.
 
Can a judge laugh this out of court? Or does it actually have to be chosen by the jurors? No idea how this works, because I think I should be a judge and point, laugh, then make the mother and child do community service for wasting my time.
 
Gman333-X-ferrari said:
That's the thing though, the bitch now lives with her mother. And it's probably her mother who encouraged her to sue her dad - that woman used her child as a tool to seek revenge on her ex-husband. Fucking disgusting.
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x2. Using your child as a tool is just plain wrong.

I bet the daughter will probably end up like her mum when she grows up.
 
DTMracer said:
x2. Using your child as a tool is just plain wrong.

I bet the daughter will probably end up like her mum when she grows up.
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That happens anyway doesnt it?

1 crazy mum- 2 Daughters
2 Crazy mums+ Original crazy mum= 3
2 crazy mums- 1 daughter each
5 crazy women

See why there are so many crazy women :p
 
I want to see what this kids looks like... she's probably one of those really dumb "liek omg" sluts or terribly, terribly ugly.
 
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