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You are assuming that the process will remove all the hydrogen at once. If there is a failure early in the process, all sorts of nasty is coming out.
We already have all sorts of nasty, including hydrogen sulfide gas, seeping/escaping from old oil fields. I would rather go ahead and extract useful materials from them while reducing the nasty crap that's, again, already escaping.
 

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We already have all sorts of nasty, including hydrogen sulfide gas, seeping/escaping from old oil fields. I would rather go ahead and extract useful materials from them while reducing the nasty crap that's, again, already escaping.
Old oil wells are supposed to be capped, why would they leak if they were capped? Hmm, maybe this new process will leak after being capped too.
 

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Old oil wells are supposed to be capped, why would they leak if they were capped? Hmm, maybe this new process will leak after being capped too.
Because people are idiots and remove the caps? And there's really old oil fields (pre-WW2) that weren't capped or their primitive caps weren't maintained, things like that.
 

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Because people are idiots and remove the caps? And there's really old oil fields (pre-WW2) that weren't capped or their primitive caps weren't maintained, things like that.
First, the old wells are not emitting that much.

But once the wells become pressurized from injecting O2, and then From the heat generated, they will have the potential to spew tons of gasses. That is the danger.

What stops the old hydrogen wells from being uncapped by idiots?
 

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First, the old wells are not emitting that much.
You might be surprised, there's a big brouhaha over ongoing seepage from the old wells in Southern California. Among other things, they're having fun with radon. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=2ahUKEwiv9ZaG-ujlAhVQKKwKHdnRBZ8QFjAKegQICRAC&url=ftp://ftp.consrv.ca.gov/pub/dmg/pubs/sr/sr_232/SR232_Orange_Radon_Final.pdf&usg=AOvVaw12V5P4gcPDU6j7MPbc6D1y

In one neighborhood I lived in, there were several uncapped 1930s-1950s wells in several peoples' backyards and nobody could figure out whose responsibility it was to cap them.

But once the wells become pressurized from injecting O2, and then From the heat generated, they will have the potential to spew tons of gasses. That is the danger.
So when you're done, depressurize the well and run the exhaust through various catalytic converters, problem solved.

What stops the old hydrogen wells from being uncapped by idiots?
Older wells were sometimes only capped by a screw-on fixture - literally a version of a pipe cap. Modern permanent caps have bolts, locks, adhesives, etc. They might be able to get it off but they're going to really have to work at it, unlike the old ones.
 
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