F1: Monaco

Kimi's car failure got me so pissed. Kimi better change teams, he cannot afford to race with a car with such failures.
 
POWERRR!! said:
williams looked pretty good last sunday. but i think they'll be back to their usual midfield position as monaco is the one track where speed isn't that important.

btw.. i'm selling my USGP ticket! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6633981549

I will be at the USGP. :)
I will be booing MS the entire time :D
Rumors are this will be the last USGP at Indy and it will switch locations to Las Vegas. :thumbsup:
 
UMass said:
POWERRR!! said:
williams looked pretty good last sunday. but i think they'll be back to their usual midfield position as monaco is the one track where speed isn't that important.

btw.. i'm selling my USGP ticket! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6633981549

I will be at the USGP. :)
I will be booing MS the entire time :D
Rumors are this will be the last USGP at Indy and it will switch locations to Las Vegas. :thumbsup:

nice!! i can totally see that happening! it'll be sorta like monaco with the casinos and stuff, only they're in the dessert! didn't know vegas has an FIA approved track for F1 though.
 
good result for coulthard, I was gutted for webber - however, there are rumours that he may have a renault seat next year - I goddamn hope so.
 
POWERRR!! said:
UMass said:
POWERRR!! said:
williams looked pretty good last sunday. but i think they'll be back to their usual midfield position as monaco is the one track where speed isn't that important.

btw.. i'm selling my USGP ticket! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6633981549

I will be at the USGP. :)
I will be booing MS the entire time :D
Rumors are this will be the last USGP at Indy and it will switch locations to Las Vegas. :thumbsup:

nice!! i can totally see that happening! it'll be sorta like monaco with the casinos and stuff, only they're in the dessert! didn't know vegas has an FIA approved track for F1 though.

It's still very much a rumor. The initial whispers pointed to a street circuit that would include Las Vegas Blvd., aka the "Strip." As far as the Speedway goes, the owners would have to make a substantial investment in the facilities to make it F1 "worthy."
 
I always thought that after this year the 'US GP' as a whole is dead and buried.
 
LoneWolf said:
I always thought that after this year the 'US GP' as a whole is dead and buried.

FOM considers the US market as a big one - and rightfully so - so I'm sure they'll figure out something or another. And many of the brands in F1 are relevant to this market, from OE to consumer brands, so it raises the stakes some more. Last year at Indy was the first one in the US I went to in many, many years since Phoenix (the last USGP they had before Indy) and it was truly a joy to be there (I was there with the folks from Michelin... thought I was going to get lynched) despite only 6 cars running. I certainly hope things come together, B=ut regardless of whether or not there is a USGP in 2007, I'll be following & watching.
 
PurgeTV said:
LoneWolf said:
I always thought that after this year the 'US GP' as a whole is dead and buried.

FOM considers the US market as a big one - and rightfully so - so I'm sure they'll figure out something or another. And many of the brands in F1 are relevant to this market, from OE to consumer brands, so it raises the stakes some more. Last year at Indy was the first one in the US I went to in many, many years since Phoenix (the last USGP they had before Indy) and it was truly a joy to be there (I was there with the folks from Michelin... thought I was going to get lynched) despite only 6 cars running. I certainly hope things come together, B=ut regardless of whether or not there is a USGP in 2007, I'll be following & watching.

You are right so far as potential marketing and consumerism is concerned, but IMO at the end of the day, American's just don't care about F1. They have their NASCAR's, IRL's and CART. Most Europeans (and most people around the world) probably think oval racing is rubbish (I'm one of them), but the American's love them and that's all that matters so far as the USGP is concerned.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to insult any American's here, but presently there are a lot of classic F1 tracks like Spa, Silverstone and a few others which are at risk of losing their F1 calandar spot. The irony is, these tracks are usually located in countries with the strongest of F1 following. In comparison, a place like Indy is, at best, an average F1 track, and the home audience really aren't that interested in the sport.

Of course I acknowledge there are American F1 fans, but they are limited in number, and if no USGP means we can retain one of the classic F1 tracks, then I won't be sad to see Indy knocked off the calander.
 
LoneWolf said:
PurgeTV said:
LoneWolf said:
I always thought that after this year the 'US GP' as a whole is dead and buried.

FOM considers the US market as a big one - and rightfully so - so I'm sure they'll figure out something or another. And many of the brands in F1 are relevant to this market, from OE to consumer brands, so it raises the stakes some more. Last year at Indy was the first one in the US I went to in many, many years since Phoenix (the last USGP they had before Indy) and it was truly a joy to be there (I was there with the folks from Michelin... thought I was going to get lynched) despite only 6 cars running. I certainly hope things come together, B=ut regardless of whether or not there is a USGP in 2007, I'll be following & watching.

You are right so far as potential marketing and consumerism is concerned, but IMO at the end of the day, American's just don't care about F1. They have their NASCAR's, IRL's and CART. Most Europeans (and most people around the world) probably think oval racing is rubbish (I'm one of them), but the American's love them and that's all that matters so far as the USGP is concerned.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to insult any American's here, but presently there are a lot of classic F1 tracks like Spa, Silverstone and a few others which are at risk of losing their F1 calandar spot. The irony is, these tracks are usually located in countries with the strongest of F1 following. In comparison, a place like Indy is, at best, an average F1 track, and the home audience really aren't that interested in the sport.

Of course I acknowledge there are American F1 fans, but they are limited in number, and if no USGP means we can retain one of the classic F1 tracks, then I won't be sad to see Indy knocked off the calander.

I don't think it's going to matter whether there is a USGP or not. The European tracks you mentioned are in trouble because there isn't enough money being handed over to FOM, the promoters can't make enough profit on hosting a race, the facilities aren't "up to par" and so on. If there's anyone to blame, blame Bernie.

NASCAR SUCKS, plain and simple. It's racing at its worst. Nothing cerebral about it whatsoever. I'm sure lots of beer swiggin hicks down in Darlington would disagree but I could give a rat's ass about it :)
 
PurgeTV said:
LoneWolf said:
PurgeTV said:
LoneWolf said:
I always thought that after this year the 'US GP' as a whole is dead and buried.

FOM considers the US market as a big one - and rightfully so - so I'm sure they'll figure out something or another. And many of the brands in F1 are relevant to this market, from OE to consumer brands, so it raises the stakes some more. Last year at Indy was the first one in the US I went to in many, many years since Phoenix (the last USGP they had before Indy) and it was truly a joy to be there (I was there with the folks from Michelin... thought I was going to get lynched) despite only 6 cars running. I certainly hope things come together, B=ut regardless of whether or not there is a USGP in 2007, I'll be following & watching.

You are right so far as potential marketing and consumerism is concerned, but IMO at the end of the day, American's just don't care about F1. They have their NASCAR's, IRL's and CART. Most Europeans (and most people around the world) probably think oval racing is rubbish (I'm one of them), but the American's love them and that's all that matters so far as the USGP is concerned.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to insult any American's here, but presently there are a lot of classic F1 tracks like Spa, Silverstone and a few others which are at risk of losing their F1 calandar spot. The irony is, these tracks are usually located in countries with the strongest of F1 following. In comparison, a place like Indy is, at best, an average F1 track, and the home audience really aren't that interested in the sport.

Of course I acknowledge there are American F1 fans, but they are limited in number, and if no USGP means we can retain one of the classic F1 tracks, then I won't be sad to see Indy knocked off the calander.

I don't think it's going to matter whether there is a USGP or not. The European tracks you mentioned are in trouble because there isn't enough money being handed over to FOM, the promoters can't make enough profit on hosting a race, the facilities aren't "up to par" and so on. If there's anyone to blame, blame Bernie.

NASCAR SUCKS, plain and simple. It's racing at its worst. Nothing cerebral about it whatsoever. I'm sure lots of beer swiggin hicks down in Darlington would disagree but I could give a rat's ass about it :)

Yes, I agree that many of Europe's tracks are suffering from out of date crumbling facilities, but you'd be staggered at the premium ticket prices they're charging and manage to get away with (I reckon I could fly from where I live in London to Indy, get accomodation AND a grandstand seat for a combined total equivelant to just a seat at Silverstone!).

And as with many things that are wrong in F1, Bernie is to blame.

Glad to se there are some people out there in the states who have a common sense motorsport head on their shoulders and can see NASCAR for what it is. People accuse F1 of being boring, but I can't see anything more boring then watching shoddily built cars with ugly paintwork go around a track hundreds of times. It's not what I consider sport, and neither do I consider it entertainment.
 
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