I don't know about more roll, still looked pretty flat and level to me. But they showed that close-up of the Ford GT that showed the tires bending, so that's an improvement at least.
Going over jumps still seems pretty lifeless too. Like way over-damped or something.
Well - what I meant was that we now know that the physics allow wheels to lift off the ground, and that the cars can actually roll... which will hopefully make us run more realistic setups and lines. Not having to worry about wheel lift or suspension travel in Forza 2 means that you can run insane sway bars and ridiculous spring/damper configurations...
Removing that flaw could mean that we'll be running more true to life setups in fm3, and that would help a lot with the perceived realism of the game. Forza 2 physics actually feel much better if you stick to realistic tuning... but the resulting lap times are considerably slower.
Turn 10 guy on NeoGaf forums said:Screenshots and the new Forzamotorsport.net launching at noon PST.
Don't worry, our physics are more hardcore than ever.
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We wanted to show how accessible the game is because sims are scary. GAF doesn't think so but the world does.
The truth is FM3 is even MORE of a sim than FM2. One of the big physics improvements we've added is real-time tire deformation and wall flex which directly affect grip threshold. We'll be doing deep dives into all of FM3's new sim features in the coming weeks and months.
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Yes, our physics team worked very hard on tire flex modeling and it's one of the big new sim features for FM3.
Thanks for noticing! It's very subtle but it makes a big difference.
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Originally Posted by Anerythristic:
I asked Che a few months ago to tell the team to bring back what I like to call the "sense of ownership garage ala Forza 1" and not just a list of cars or cars floating in blue space.
We have very much addressed this. I think you'll like what you see when we talk in more detail about it in the coming days.
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There will be plenty of gameplay footage this week.
If you're still questioning if these screenshots look like the actual game, then, I dunno what to tell ya.
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It feels awesome to go into a corner faced with understeer, only to kick the clutch to induce rear slippage and then modulate throttle to power-over for the turn. It's so subtle but the fact that you can ride that edge of traction all the way through while adjusting all the while puts Forza physics into a whole separate category. It's a gameplay mechanic I've really yet to experience in any other racing game on consoles.
^ Tire deformation is in, up to now only a physics element seen on a few hardcore sim racers.
And nearly 80 of those cars are Skyline GT-R's with some special color or some random race special that is identical the every other random race special of that car.Horrible just horrible.
Cars still look like they are made out of plastic and just adding a cockpit view isn't enough. But the worst part was when the man from Turn 10 kept telling that this was the best racing game out there and that it had 400 cars!!! Wow!!
Dude! Can I remind you that Gran Tursimo 5 will have 600 + cars??
EDIT: Sorry if I sound too harsh but I'm infuriated by the presence of Kojima - san presenting a Metal Gear Solid for the 360. Traitor... ??
You know you fear it
Tomorrow will be the day
If this gets out before GT5 then the GT developers should be forever shameful.
SUVs are confirmed in, fucking disappointment if you ask me. Whoever's decision that was needs a good slap in the face. Better be just the Cayenne and that's it. Otherwise I can just see getting mauled off the track by some idiot in a fucking Trailblazer. Cue GT5 fans, we deserve it for this travesty, but at least we have rollovers confirmed in too
SUVs are confirmed in, fucking disappointment if you ask me. Whoever's decision that was needs a good slap in the face. Better be just the Cayenne and that's it. Otherwise I can just see getting mauled off the track by some idiot in a fucking Trailblazer. Cue GT5 fans, we deserve it for this travesty, but at least we have rollovers confirmed in too
Yes it will. Tomorrow will be the day they announce it will be out next year. :lol: