Once upon a time in Hollywood (2019)
First time I glanced on my watch was 1h30m in. - Way too long, bored the pants off me.
How deep are you into Manson lore/US counterculture history? Tarantino assumes a shitload of prior knowledge as he builds a lot of suspense from the audience knowing that the main characters interact with a bunch of serial killers while they are completely oblivious about it.Yeah I didn't really get the appeal, the last 30m was more interesting than the whole rest of the movie.
I knew about the murders at Polanskis house by Mansons lackys, but true, I didn't connect that with the hippie commune scene at the ranch. - But that didn't matter, as the gimmick of building tension worked very well during the scene anyway. - That was the moment when the movie finally got interesting. - But that was also the moment when I was so buzzed out by the two hours of boredom before it, that I simply gave up.How deep are you into Manson lore/US counterculture history? Tarantino assumes a shitload of prior knowledge as he builds a lot of suspense from the audience knowing that the main characters interact with a bunch of serial killers while they are completely oblivious about it.
Jules also points out that the strong and violent reaction of Thomas Wayne to being confronted by Arthur, a deranged loser, in the bathroom, could be a clue that he actually is Arthur's father: A vain and arrogant man, he could not stand the sight of his offspring, the fruit of his loins, being anything but a success. With a random heckler, he would have left the dirty work to security staff.
I just watched Joker again on a United flight. I felt the violence was hype, the body count is maybe 7 total. Most of the movies success was hype. I don't think it was great and mostly saved by Joaquin Phoenix. The director Todd Phillips said you can't do comedy presumably not seeing Baskets from his former colleague now on FX but there is also It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, What We Do In The Shadows, Atlanta... and that's just on one basic cable channel. Todd Phillips said that because he knew it would get the attention of unfunny offensive people who wouldn't see a character study. Oh it's super violent they hype that to get kids. It was all hyped up for a mediocre movie with a great actor.What I don't understand most is why people were so shocked by the movie and it's depiction of violence. For me, it slotted right in between Taxi Driver and, say, Death Wish - the way violence is shown and the level of gore definitely is owing more to "tough guy vigilante" actioners than being even close to what can be seen in anything from war movies through Lars von Trier style arthose faire to "torture porn" horror films.
Here's some ideas why people feel uncomfortable:...