is Der Slut
- Dec 19, 2008
- Misery Knob
- Too many and yet not enough
I'm not claiming they weren't, I'm saying that they wouldn't have gone away, just woulda been part of VAG earlier.Porsche was on life support, extended by the initial success of the 986 Boxster, but by the time the Cayenne rolled around they were again in a heap of trouble.
That's because Porsche family owned VW since it's very inception, that's not really much of an argument for/against Cayenne.(Oh, and although Porsche is part of VAG, guess who is the majority stakeholder of VAG? The Porsche family.)
Point being that McLaren didn't disappear even though they sold no consumer vehicles. Porsche did quite a bit of racing as well did they not?McLaren is not analogous to Porsche, because they were not (until recently) earning their keep selling consumer vehicles. They were a racing outfit, that just happened to make one single “production” vehicle (just over 100 were ever made). Although Porsche went racing, its solvency was dependent on its consumer sales.
IbizaYou are also forgetting that McLaren was/is a contract manufacturer.
I think that was post Cayenne though.Porsche’s financial straits was because they tried to buy VW and failed at it. Really their own fault.
I recall it being a beloved-by-Rick choice at the time, but the market ran the hell away from it. I also recall it being competent but not significantly better than the competition at the time - not enough to save Suzuki Cars USA.How about the Suzuki Kizashi? Seems interesting but I've never driven one.
Yeah I literally have a ford dealer <1 mile from my house. I went to do test drives a few years ago (pre st fiesta) and got laughed at for wanting to test drive a mustang.Had a smiliar experience with a Ford dealer here in MA. Pulled in with my friend in his 340i. Got laughed at for trying to drive a Focus RS. When asked to drive a new Mustang GT, we were instead offered an older model with a PVC pipe for a shifter - literally.