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IMO it's same issue as the Prohibition, there is a demand for the product and where there is a demand there will be a supply, if that supply can be provided legally people will generally get it legally so there is much less incentive for a criminal enterprise to enter into that business. When something cannot be obtained legally there will be a lot of incentive for criminal enterprise and of course since they are already criminals it's not a stretch for them to turn violent to stave off competition.
 

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This morning, my aunt just re-posted a FB meme created by an obvious-to-everyone-but-her troll, with the text: "When will KILLary pay for the murder of Benjamin Ghazi?" overlain a terrible photoshop of Hillary's "balloon gazing" face on a body of what appears to be a halloween costume model showing off a black-and-white striped outfit "jailbird" costume, complete with a plastic ball-and-chain, with a fake bloody knife on the floor.

Get it? Ben Ghazi? Benghazi?

I think someone tipped her off, because by the time I tried to go back and save it a few minutes ago, she had taken down the post.
 

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Yup, this Trump immigration policy is getting all the bad apples out of this country...

He has been here since he was 3 and is a legal resident.
 

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GRtak;n3544741 said:
Yup, this Trump immigration policy is getting all the bad apples out of this country...

He has been here since he was 3 and is a legal resident and has a criminal record.
FIFY. Not saying I agree with this outcome but it's a pretty important detail that you left out. I'm also really curious why he has held onto a green card for several decades without applying for citizenship.
 

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His record was expunged and was from when he was 17 years old. If he was so dangerous, he should have been removed from the country then.
 

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At least you can't say they are being racist, hard to be whiter than Polish. I would also point out that one case does not a trend make, you can find examples of any behavior you want in LEO circles regardless of who's in office.
 
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I think we can all agree that some illegals should be deported, e.g. violent criminals, while others should be allowed to stay, e.g. those that contribute to society meaningfully. That's a blurry line though and the law doesn't go by subjective opinions of the public.
 

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No argument there. By no means am I trying to defend ICE here, but I also don't see some sort of a Trumpian overreach in a single case of ICE being dicks.
 

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Random thought:

The Trump "hush" payout, to the woman with whom he had the affair, took place a month before the election. Had the story not been squashed, I have been thinking about if it actually would have changed the outcome of the election...and I'm not entirely sure it would have...which is strange to me.
 

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NecroJoe;n3544768 said:
Random thought:

The Trump "hush" payout, to the woman with whom he had the affair, took place a month before the election. Had the story not been squashed, I have been thinking about if it actually would have changed the outcome of the election...and I'm not entirely sure it would have...which is strange to me.
But does it matter? She wasn't underage, she wasn't forced (at least no allegations of such have been made), while I have a personal issue with infidelity in general it's not illegal.
 

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Complete non-event, blown out of proportion by the people that like a certain previous POTUS who lied under oath about sticking his cigar in the holiest of places.
 

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GRtak;n3544776 said:
Another affair which was also blown out of proportion.
Perjury is just something blown out of proportion now? No one would've cared if he said "yep, stuck that cigar right in there, sue me" - it's the typical Clinton lies that got him.
 

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prizrak;n3544773 said:
But does it matter? She wasn't underage, she wasn't forced (at least no allegations of such have been made), while I have a personal issue with infidelity in general it's not illegal.
To many, character matters. I was thinking about if there was someone on the fence still at that point in the election and in the end gave him their vote, would it matter to them if it had come our before the election that their presidential candidate paid someone to keep a secret affair with a porn star (not to disparage her profession, just bringing it up because it's always mentioned in the conversation and there are many who would see it as being WORSE than if it were, say, someone from their book club) while his wife was pregnant.

People have been run out of office for being "exposed" for an affair, no? It basically ruined John Edward's career (which was over before the charges of the campaign finance issues, of which he was never found guilty of).


LeVeL;n3544781 said:
Perjury is just something blown out of proportion now? No one would've cared if he said "yep, stuck that cigar right in there, sue me" - it's the typical Clinton lies that got him.
Here's the thing, though: I feel like I could promise you that 2:1, most of John Q. Public a) thinks he didn't get impeached because they think that word means they are removed from office, and even if they do know what it means, b) that the reason for the impeachment was the affair itself, and not the lying about it under oath. Every time I hear about it being brought up, the general public outrage seems to always be around the act, and not the lying about the act.
 
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LeVeL;n3544781 said:
Perjury is just something blown out of proportion now? No one would've cared if he said "yep, stuck that cigar right in there, sue me" - it's the typical Clinton lies that got him.


Yes, completely ignore the word affair in my sentence. Of course the perjury was wrong. Clinton should of been a man and said "That is none of your business" in relation to the whole affair, instead of "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". It would have been a non story from the get go.
 

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NecroJoe;n3544782 said:
To many, character matters. I was thinking about if there was someone on the fence still at that point in the election and in the end gave him their vote, would it matter to them if it had come our before the election that their presidential candidate paid someone to keep a secret affair with a porn star (not to disparage her profession, just bringing it up because it's always mentioned in the conversation and there are many who would see it as being WORSE than if it were, say, someone from their book club) while his wife was pregnant.
He has had at least three public affairs by the time he even registered to run. So I doubt it woulda made much of any difference.

Here's the thing, though: I feel like I could promise you that 2:1, most of John Q. Public a) thinks he didn't get impeached because they think that word means they are removed from office, and even if they do know what it means, b) that the reason for the impeachment was the affair itself, and not the lying about it under oath. Every time I hear about it being brought up, the general public outrage seems to always be around the act, and not the lying about the act.
You are likely right on both of those
 

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So in the wake of Parkland, there have been some conspiracy theories floating around. A lot of them revolve around George Soros being behind some of the movements that have sprung from the shooting.

So so I googled George Soros because although I know he’s a billlonaire that funds left wing causes, I really don’t know anything more and in particular why he’s despised so much. i really couldn’t find anything. I’m not particularly fond of how he earned his money, but other than that....what’s so bad about George Soros?

This was prompted by a piece I read in National Review. The writer was denouncing some of the attack’s on Pakrland students and also on Soros, but still referred to him as “genuinely nasty”

can anyone shed more light? Is he any different than billionaires that fund right wing causes? (Kochs, Mercers, Murdoch’s). Is there some sort of veiled anti-semitism behind propping him up as a villain?
 
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