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Actually, FWD was a problem.

See, people who had gotten out of the habit of buying GM would get a little older and think that they might want to trade in their 3er or Mercedes C-class for something a bit larger and more comfortable. They remembered that their parents/grandparents/whoever had had a Cadillac back in the old days, heard that Caddy quality was up, and the latest product didn't look bad. They would go to the Caddy dealer and check out a car for a test drive. Say, an ETC or STS (fwd from a few years back).

Usually the test drive would end abruptly when the potential customer hammered the throttle and torque steer sent the thing heading for the ditch - very disconcerting to someone used to a RWD car. Back to the dealership they would go, and off they would go to buy another BMW, another Merc, or a Lexus LS.
I don't disagree what FWD was PART of the problem but really take any of the older Cadis and stick RWD on it w/o any other mods. Would you still want it?
 

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Eh... The FWD STS wouldn't have been a bad car as RWD.

I also wouldn't have minded if the early 70s Eldorado coupe had been RWD. Sinister looking beast, that was. I would still have one - if it weren't FWD.
 

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I don't disagree what FWD was PART of the problem but really take any of the older Cadis and stick RWD on it w/o any other mods. Would you still want it?
I might have considered one (used as with any of my cars) in that event, assuming of course they might be a bit easier to work on. I still think they are excellent looking pieces of machinery, let down by GM's declining reputation and less than stellar handling.
 

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Eh... The FWD STS wouldn't have been a bad car as RWD.

I also wouldn't have minded if the early 70s Eldorado coupe had been RWD. Sinister looking beast, that was. I would still have one - if it weren't FWD.
I used to love the Eldorado till I found out it was FWD actually :p
 

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If a Tornado can be made RWD (and AWD :p) it's upscale stablemate should be switchable as well.
 

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Somebody here in town actually has a Buick Park Avenue. I was standing next to him at the lights and it made some really strange noises.

I was asking myself: What could possibly drive a man here to buy such a car?
 

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Somebody here in town actually has a Buick Park Avenue. I was standing next to him at the lights and it made some really strange noises.

I was asking myself: What could possibly drive a man here to buy such a car?
A better question would be "who thought it was a good idea to import one in the first place????"
 

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I used to love the Eldorado till I found out it was FWD actually :p
Why that car is nearly 20ft long and the convertibles' cowl shakes more than a bobblehead? If you really want FR then get a DeVille, imho the 4th gen is the best car cadillac made in that era, i was never a fan of the huge fins.
 

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Why that car is nearly 20ft long and the convertibles' cowl shakes more than a bobblehead? If you really want FR then get a DeVille, imho the 4th gen is the best car cadillac made in that era, i was never a fan of the huge fins.
No reason at all just thought it was badass :)
 

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Except it will be built in Mexico like my car and most likely not be very good because of it. :?
 

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I don't disagree what FWD was PART of the problem but really take any of the older Cadis and stick RWD on it w/o any other mods. Would you still want it?
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I also wouldn't have minded if the early 70s Eldorado coupe had been RWD. Sinister looking beast, that was. I would still have one - if it weren't FWD.
Originally Posted by prizrak
I used to love the Eldorado till I found out it was FWD actually

That FWD system deosn't have torque steer(center differential), and can handle tons of power. That trans was used in several mid-engine kit cars.
 

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That FWD system deosn't have torque steer(center differential), and can handle tons of power. That trans was used in several mid-engine kit cars.
They also used two of that FWD driveline in this beast.



Which had twin supercharged 425s.
 
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